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All Forum Posts by: Rob Kishi

Rob Kishi has started 6 posts and replied 66 times.

Post: Looking for Hawaii Refinance Lenders

Rob KishiPosted
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  • Oakland CA & Las Vegas NV
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My parents have a lot of equity locked up in their primary residence not working for them. 

Any lenders licensed in Hawaii want to chat about a refinance?

Thanks

Post: Bitcoin continues to become the most pristine collateral asset

Rob KishiPosted
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Quote from @Ryan Clear:

@Rob Kishi that's a very deceptive graphic. Either you know it is and choose to share it anyway, or you haven't spent enough reviewing the information yourself to understand how ridiculous your conclusion is.


 Best of luck to you sir.

Post: Bitcoin continues to become the most pristine collateral asset

Rob KishiPosted
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Quote from @Jill F.:

@Rob Kishi I know this is going to sound like my tinfoil hat is on a little too tight but...

it seems possible, if not likely, that the keepers of the banking system status quo will start up a digital currency backed by the treasury and then make rules that will protect the interests of the status quo. It's hard to say where that will leave "outsiders" like bitcoin...

Central banks will surely create their own digital currencies (CBDCs), and in many ways, fiat currency is already primarily digital, but it doesn't change the underlying monetary policies that govern them. A digital dollar controlled and distributed by the central bank is still a dollar by nature and has all of the underlying issues and inefficiencies as paper money while introducing very serious privacy, censorship, and tracking concerns.

The future of money (as with most other things) is without a doubt going to be digital, but citizens will hopefully have a choice in which money (and what monetary policies) are best suited for them without the forceful coercion from a nation-state.    

Governments potentially outlawing or banning the use of bitcoin and crypto is a whole other story that is touched on briefly in earlier posts in this thread and heavily discussed in other online forums.

Post: Bitcoin continues to become the most pristine collateral asset

Rob KishiPosted
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Quote from @Bob E.:

@Rob Kishi  How has the change int Bitcoin's price affected this strategy?  Looks like it is down @ 25% since this was posted.

@Bob E. outside of needing to manage the product's LTV requirements to avoid liquidation (which also could be viewed as a stop-loss), what's the difference? Lower prices were always a known possibility no?

Borrowing involves responsibility no matter how one goes about it, and something is always being put at stake. Whether it's bitcoin, a house, credibility, or a credit score, it is the responsibility of the borrower to determine their comfortability with the risks and understand the trade-offs they are making.  

When you think of the future of finance, do you see it being more digital or less? more global or less? more inclusive or less? more efficient or less? more uptime or less? more immediate or less? more government controls or less? more transparency or less? do individuals seek harder money or less? do governments choose harder money or less? are future generations aligned with digital assets more or less? 

Nothing is fundamentally different about bitcoin's long-term investment thesis. The network is still running, transactions are still being verified, builders and still building, adoption is still happening, and fiat is still being debased at unprecedented levels; all of which is happening regardless of bitcoin's dollar value. Price is really more of a proxy for the emotional sentiment of market participants rather than an indication of utility (hence why markets can quickly become overbought or oversold based on news and speculation) and in reality, everything will forever go up in dollar terms because we are forever increasing the money supply (see the cost of goods in Venezuela, Zimbabwe, Turkey, etc.). Price is not always the best judge of value.

Traders concern themselves with what's happening in the next meter, while investors focus on the next mile. Zoom out to separate the signal from the noise.

Post: What Does Wealth Mean To You?

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Wealth is the collection of the desirable things you possess. It could be assets like real estate, money, and businesses, or virtuous characteristics like intelligence, integrity, authenticity, and love. 

Creating wealth is about pooling our hours, energy, and leverage in the most efficacious ways to get what we really want in life: freedom and happiness for ourselves and our loved ones. Financial well-being provides choice and security, while personal growth, gratitude, and building strong relationships provide fulfillment.

When it comes down to it, the most valuable thing in the world is time. The billionaire business mogul and the homeless man under the bridge both only have twenty-four hours in a day, sixty minutes in an hour, and sixty seconds in a minute. Live in the present and make every moment of it worthwhile!

Post: Applicants with Low Credit Score

Rob KishiPosted
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Keep taking applicants

Post: Low Down Payment Option?

Rob KishiPosted
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Equity/financing partners, seller financing, or live in the property to qualify for primary residence financing.

Post: Bitcoin continues to become the most pristine collateral asset

Rob KishiPosted
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  • Oakland CA & Las Vegas NV
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Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Rob Kishi:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Rob Kishi:

Milo, a US-based lender is now offering bitcoin-backed mortgages with no downpayment, no credit requirement, no DTI, no bank statements, and 100% financing. This is the start of exciting disruption and innovation as the digital assets space matures and further melds with traditional and antiquated finance.

Stack sats, use them to fund real estate without sacrificing the appreciation, invest the gains from real estate to stack more sats, repeat. 

Bitcoin is the most pristine collateral asset that exists today.

Your Comment: "a US-based lender is now offering bitcoin-backed mortgages with no downpayment"

Isn't that just another form of fractional banking, the same problem we have now?
It will evolve into what people have become accustomed to, borrowing more than the value of the asset. 

Banks started out only lending the amount they had on reserve.  It evolved to where now the Fed just adds a zero to the ledger and voila' lots of new "money". I don't see how Bitcoin is any diferent.

Someone will open a BIT (Bitcoin Investment Trust) that others can buy shares in and "control" some Bitcoin, or a BETF (Bitcoin Exchange Traded Fund) where multiple "owners" share ownership of the same Bitcoin and so on it goes. This of course creates "money" and expands the money supply.

More gold is "controlled" by Gold ETFS than the amount of gold that actually exists. If everyone demanded the gold in their ETF they could not get get to it. It doesn't exist except on paper.

If you can't touch it, (like gold, silver, real estate, commodities) it's of value only in good times. When people lose confidence in a stable government & society (war, actual pandemics, EMP attacks, famine) it loses it's value.
You sure can't touch Bitcoin. It's fine for now, but during problem times, it won't have it's allure.



Can you touch air, culture, love, or trust? One could argue that many of the most valued things in life are non-material and "un-touchable" as you refer to them.

Using bitcoin to over-collateralize a loan is not fractional reserve banking. If you'd like to do more investigation look up the details on Milo's loan offering and compare it to what you learn about rehypothecation + fractional reserve banking. It shouldn't be difficult to see they are not the same.

No one can adjust the bitcoin supply. When ETPs (electronically traded products) or trusts are created for bitcoin, the fund acquires a certain amount from the circulating supply traded on the market and holds it with a third-party custodian. They then sell shares of their wrapper (ETP or trust) to public investors. They are not selling bitcoin. People who buy these are gaining exposure through a derivative, not the asset itself. 

I can't validate your gold comment, but I and anyone else in the world can quickly validate the bitcoin supply today, yesterday, tomorrow, and on any given day in both the past and future. This level of absolute scarcity and transparency are things that have never existed before, especially in the world of money. 

Your Comment: "This level of absolute scarcity"

Simply being scarce doesn't make a thing valuable. Hemorrhoids are scarce and yet I don't see people beating down doors to acquire them. ;-)

It sounds like you are saying that technology will freeze now and no new technology will be developed to corrupt the "pristine" aspect of Bitcoin. I'm sure you don't mean that.

Besides, I can think of a notepad full of obstacles Bitcoin faces before it becomes the currency of choice. Don't get me wrong. I am not against Bitcoin, but I just don't see that enough people being convinced yet to make it replace dollar bills (actually, replace debit cards, but that is another discussion).

We all come around to bitcoin in our own time and in our own way, and we all pay the price we deserve. Don't stop learning Mike and best of luck to you. :)

P.S. I don't know if hemorrhoids are the best example to illustrate scarcity...

Post: Bitcoin continues to become the most pristine collateral asset

Rob KishiPosted
  • Investor
  • Oakland CA & Las Vegas NV
  • Posts 72
  • Votes 112
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Rob Kishi:

Milo, a US-based lender is now offering bitcoin-backed mortgages with no downpayment, no credit requirement, no DTI, no bank statements, and 100% financing. This is the start of exciting disruption and innovation as the digital assets space matures and further melds with traditional and antiquated finance.

Stack sats, use them to fund real estate without sacrificing the appreciation, invest the gains from real estate to stack more sats, repeat. 

Bitcoin is the most pristine collateral asset that exists today.

Your Comment: "a US-based lender is now offering bitcoin-backed mortgages with no downpayment"

Isn't that just another form of fractional banking, the same problem we have now?
It will evolve into what people have become accustomed to, borrowing more than the value of the asset. 

Banks started out only lending the amount they had on reserve.  It evolved to where now the Fed just adds a zero to the ledger and voila' lots of new "money". I don't see how Bitcoin is any diferent.

Someone will open a BIT (Bitcoin Investment Trust) that others can buy shares in and "control" some Bitcoin, or a BETF (Bitcoin Exchange Traded Fund) where multiple "owners" share ownership of the same Bitcoin and so on it goes. This of course creates "money" and expands the money supply.

More gold is "controlled" by Gold ETFS than the amount of gold that actually exists. If everyone demanded the gold in their ETF they could not get get to it. It doesn't exist except on paper.

If you can't touch it, (like gold, silver, real estate, commodities) it's of value only in good times. When people lose confidence in a stable government & society (war, actual pandemics, EMP attacks, famine) it loses it's value.
You sure can't touch Bitcoin. It's fine for now, but during problem times, it won't have it's allure.



Can you touch air, culture, love, or trust? One could argue that many of the most valued things in life are non-material and "un-touchable" as you refer to them.

Using bitcoin to over-collateralize a loan is not fractional reserve banking. If you'd like to do more investigation look up the details on Milo's loan offering and compare it to what you learn about rehypothecation + fractional reserve banking. It shouldn't be difficult to see they are not the same.

No one can adjust the bitcoin supply. When ETPs (electronically traded products) or trusts are created for bitcoin, the fund acquires a certain amount from the circulating supply traded on the market and holds it with a third-party custodian. They then sell shares of their wrapper (ETP or trust) to public investors. They are not selling bitcoin. People who buy these are gaining exposure through a derivative, not the asset itself. 

I can't validate your gold comment, but I and anyone else in the world can quickly validate the bitcoin supply today, yesterday, tomorrow, and on any given day in both the past and future. This level of absolute scarcity and transparency are things that have never existed before, especially in the world of money.