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All Forum Posts by: Will Wu

Will Wu has started 9 posts and replied 80 times.

Post: Negotiation: Code-violating seller won't remove tenants

Will WuPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • West Palm Beach, FL
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 50
Originally posted by @Bradley A.:

To clarify - for what it's worth, I in no way intended to call the tenants themselves filthy. The owner's lack of upkeep, poor maintenance, lack of management, and general disregard for creating safe & comfortable living spaces has created this situation. This is a slum lord situation with an owner who - as far as we can tell, has no respect for their tenants, neighborhood, or business.

Post: Negotiation: Code-violating seller won't remove tenants

Will WuPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • West Palm Beach, FL
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 50

I don't know in IL. But here in Florida. Even a month to month "paying" tenant. It cannot be evicted if they don't owe rent unless the Landlord serves them a 15 days notice to terminate the month to month lease. If tenant does not leave then he can file eviction after the 15 days. However this type of eviction where money is not due is highly contestable so it could drag for many weeks more than a standard non paying eviction. And if the landlord is an LLC the eviction have to done by a lawyer hence increasing the cost. If there are 5 different persons they probably have to file separate evictions. I was in a similar situation where I purchased a couple of properties with roomies. Best is to tell them you will file for eviction but you are willing to offer a few hundred bucks for them to leave voluntarily (cash for keys).

Post: Cost of building a Fourplex

Will WuPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • West Palm Beach, FL
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 50

I'm in the process of building one 4 plex and 2 duplexes. I think the cost is around $120~$150 / sq ft. 

Post: Negotiation: Code-violating seller won't remove tenants

Will WuPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • West Palm Beach, FL
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 50

1) I mentioned that all the buyer needs to do is to add a language on the contract that "Seller will be responsible to deliver property free of liens and code enforcement violations". That will make the seller responsible for clearing any violations prior to closing. 

2) The buyer has no business calling code enforcement on the seller to add pressure on the seller as you stated on your post. That move, in my opinion, is very unethical that will automatically piss off any seller and will break any deal. Only the tenant or at most a neighbor that could be affected should call the code enforcement. The buyer (that is not even under contract) is not affected at all by how the seller is running its property and should not attempt to use this type of tactic to add pressure to the seller. 

3) There are many types of landlords. It seems that this seller is focusing on renting to low-income roomies. Or as the buyer claims (people with filth). Perhaps the buyer plan is to rehab the property and charge higher rent to more affluent tenants. However, there is a market for roomies and all they want is the cheapest rent they can afford. They are just one step away from becoming homeless if they are paying rent the cay afford instead of sleeping in the street that works for them.  Again, if the tenant feels they are living in an unsafe condition they are the ones that should complain to code enforcement. 

Post: Negotiation: Code-violating seller won't remove tenants

Will WuPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • West Palm Beach, FL
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 50
Originally posted by @Dan Weber:

Are these code violations just violations that you can clearly see or are they legitimate violations that have been issued by the city? If they have not been issued yet by the city, you could give them a call and report the house. Maybe if the city gets involved and issues violations then it will put some pressure on the seller.

 A buyer reporting the seller to code enforcement? That is a pretty low move. I will immediately tell the buyer to go to hell if I found the buyer did this. If anyone feels that the premises are not up to code the Tenant has to report it. Buyer has no business interfering with other people business. And if there are in fact "code violations" issued by the city the Seller will need to clear this violation prior to closing anyway. Just put in on the contract "Seller will be responsible to deliver property free of liens and code enforcement violations". 

Post: Negotiation: Code-violating seller won't remove tenants

Will WuPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • West Palm Beach, FL
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 50

Removing tenants is costly and it will take a couple of months or more if tenants contest the eviction. It seems like the price you offered is not attractive enough for them to do that. Usually, a seller will want to sell fast and not go thru the lengthy eviction period and if you are willing to take over their tenants problems perhaps that will be a good reason for sellers to sell it a lower price. 

Post: ​Quickbooks wants $60 per month forever.

Will WuPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • West Palm Beach, FL
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 50

One license of QB desktop you can use on as many companies as you want and you just need to update it every 3 years when they stop supporting your OS. 

Post: Cost to build a Duplex

Will WuPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • West Palm Beach, FL
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 50

I have 3 parcels in Miami zoned for building one Fourplex and 2 Duplexes. I'm in the early stages of hiring an architect. I was told the cost for building will be around $120sq ft. 

Post: From 0 to 140 houses in 2 years. Now what?

Will WuPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • West Palm Beach, FL
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 50
Originally posted by @Joel Owens:

Hi Will,

Actually my clients are getting 8 caps.

Your comment I hear it all the time but it is a misconception on retail. It depends on the demographics of the areas you are buying. National average median income is 54,000. Those areas when the economy is good might have a few extra grand a year to blow. When the economy is bad they have no additional income and money is tight. Mom and pop commercial tenants in those areas mortgaged the house to start a business. They are not very liquid and depend on business sales to survive.

Higher median income areas of 100k or more the people's idea of roughing it is eating steak 1 time a week instead of 3. They have a lot more discretionary income to weather an economy down cycle. National tenants also on leases have under performing stores, middle performing, and top performing. If the lease is a national guarantee then even if the store is losing 40k a year they have to keep honoring and paying in full the primary term of the lease.

No asset class is perfect even multifamily. There is talk of a rent ceiling because 49% of SFR renters the rent payment now takes up over 30% of their checks. So a correction is slated in the future years on rent growth for many parts of multifamily.

Looking at retail there are too many metrics for me to cover in this post. People not in the space day in and day out do not fully understand it. When you have a deep level of knowledge about what to buy and how to analyze risk it is not the systemic risk people talk about.

These days I look for DESTINATION type tenants. Karate school, green dry cleaners, hair salon, restaurant, doctor's office, etc. These are physical spaces where people have to go somewhere and drop money. They can't go in the store and then buy cheaper online.      

 Joel, Thanks you for your input. I learned a lot. Specially your preference to look for Destination type tenants make a lot of sense. 

Post: From 0 to 140 houses in 2 years. Now what?

Will WuPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • West Palm Beach, FL
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 50
Originally posted by @Joel Owens:

Hi Will,

That's a common occurrence I see.

Someone bought Class D stuff and the market cycle is frothy now. I would be dumping off and shedding that class D product while it is frothy. Class D should not be held long term due to the constant problems.

Medical offices are currently are more risk due to constant Obamacare changes and medicare billing on what items they will cover and how much will be paid. You tend to have just  a few tenants so break even occupancy isn't good.

Commercial retail if purchase right is a good investment. Now that you have millions many slow down and want more quality. The B properties if you want to hold you could refinance up to 75% and then invest that way or 1031. The class D shed those and 1031 exchange 100% tax deferred into other investments.

Commercial you might achieve 15% cash on cash after your down payment which doesn't include principal pay down. It's less that headache SFR but you aren't working as hard either.

25% return on 100,000 for a headache is 25,000. Not enough for most to live on. 2 million getting 15% back each year is 300,000. More than enough for most to live very well and have more leftover to keep investing.      

Thanks Joel, 

Thank you for your suggestions. I'm seeing some interested Commercial deals that generates 7% cap rate. My concerns about commercial are that these products are more vulnerable to the economy. If the economy goes bad more business will struggle and the risk of having empty units will be higher. While residential especially for middle to low class properties the demand will be there no matter how the economy goes as people needs to have a place to live.