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All Forum Posts by: Richard Elvin

Richard Elvin has started 7 posts and replied 271 times.

Post: Does it get easier to deny people?

Richard ElvinPosted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland, TN
  • Posts 279
  • Votes 186
Quote from @Kelly N.:

All good advice, thank you! I know it's wishful thinking on her part to think that she can afford this property. I set up a list of rental guidelines that I'll just refer back to, and I've started sending a pre-screener to individuals who are asking to view the house. If needed, I'll pay a PM to do the screenings and lease and then will manage it from there. 

It sounds like you are getting a good handle on self management!

 I used to use an online screening app, Cozy.co (Now bought out by apartments.com), to pre-screen tenants. (sold my duplex in 2019) If they didn't match the criteria they usually wouldn't bother paying for the application fee/background/credit check. That's a good way to get unqualified tenants to self select out. 

Another thought, a lot of times someone that is "waiting until x" to get a divorce (or do whatever), is still conflicted about moving forward. It's quite possible she would have moved in, not paid anything after the first payment, then moved back with her "ex", leaving you without payment for several months and looking for a new tenant. 

Quote from @Russell Brazil:

If they are your agent, they will not make any more or less money if you buy this house. They will make X dollars from selling this house, then they will make Y dollars from whatever house you buy, whether its this one or another one. It is a zero sum game when one of your own buyers buys one of your listings.


 Never thought of it like that, but you are 100% correct. Thanks for that tidbit!

Post: What I wish Pace Morby would have told me

Richard ElvinPosted
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  • Cleveland, TN
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Quote from @Don Konipol:

It’s AMAZING the nonsensical stuff that gurus come up with.  They take some technique or strategy that’s only workable or beneficial in a very tiny percentage of situations and generalize it as a major breakthrough.  Further, they retread strategies and techniques proven ineffectual or even dangerous in many economic climates, and tell their followers how they’ve perfected the strategy and made “millions” utilizing it.  Oh yeah, they don’t need the money from mentoring, they’re “giving back”.  
I guess my greatest beef with most gurus (not all, some are actually honest and straightforward, and even offer marginally beneficial advice) is the following

1- they’re dishonest in numerous ways

2- completing their training in no way qualifies the student to earn money or even perform competently in real property field

3- the techniques they teach are often harmful to the people their students deal with

4- they unleash a horde of unprepared, unqualified, unknowledgeable, misguided and unaware newbies on an unsuspecting pool of desperate homeowners

5- they sell the song that all formal education is a waste of time and money

6- they never provide any audited proof that they have been successful in real estate investing
7- they encourage people to pay for a mentorship plan they can’t afford by increasing the limit on their credit cards

8- they create falsified accounts to post how great their program is

9- their programs are packaged by professional seminar companies out of Provo, Utah or Las Vegas, Nevada

10- they disparage people who have spent years accumulating the knowledge, experience and capital necessary to be successful in real estate

11- SOME gurus teach techniques which are unethical, immoral and even illegal. 

I await someone with 2 previous posts to tell me that I obviously don’t know what I’m talking about…


 This post should be pinned! 100%!

Post: Information on good loans for buy and hold ?

Richard ElvinPosted
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  • Cleveland, TN
  • Posts 279
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@Israel Wolterding If this is your first property, look into Down Payment Assistance programs for your state. That can help with getting into a property. 

https://www.hud.gov/states/massachusetts/homeownership/buyin...

Post: Lender Fails To Close

Richard ElvinPosted
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  • Cleveland, TN
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I think the $4,900 is from the HML/Bridge loan, I could be wrong. This is how I read it, "Started with 6 month Bridge loan, Oct, 2022. ... After 3 extensions and 7 months time, costing $4900 in points...".

@Larry W Boyd I would check with a different lender for the refi. As far as legal remedies, not likely. You could talk with a lawyer, but it's unlikely that the lender had a legally binding contract to provide you a refi. They very likely over promised and under delivered, which is tough when you were counting on them. I would look at getting it listed asap. 

Post: Underage VRBO Cancellation

Richard ElvinPosted
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  • Cleveland, TN
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Quote from @Michael Baum:
So VRBO just implemented a $50 cancellation fee to hosts for what they feel is avoidable cancellations.

Here is my post on it -

 Where? lol

Post: Innovative ways to increase bookings

Richard ElvinPosted
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  • Cleveland, TN
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@Ricardo Llanos First off, I think it looks really nice! Most of my thoughts are tips on what could be improved, so I apologize in advance if it comes across as negative. It's not intended that way, as I think you have a great place! 

I agree with fixing the moss on the roof and adding captions to the photos, even if it's simple like "Bedroom 1", etc. I would also consider what value the "upstairs looking down" photos add? They made the interior feel really small, to me anyway.

The pond needs some landscaping and/or better pictures. It appears overgrown and swamp-ish in the photos. My wife gets eaten alive by mosquitoes, so she would probably decline to book the place because of the pond. (This also might be why I'm more cognizant of this than other's might be, so there's likely bias in my opinion, take it for what it's worth.) 

If possible, I would add some type of water feature that would keep the water moving, fountain, etc. It would make a nice backyard feature and would remove the swamp-ish look. More backyard seating and a fire ring, if possible, would also be great. (as other's have mentioned) If a fire ring is a no go, add some place to sit and lighting, even a few poles and some string lights around the pond would give a nice feel to the backyard. Then add pictures of people using the space and happy. You want people to see themselves there and having fun!

Just my thoughts. I hope this is helpful! :)

Post: re: How to pay down mortgage quicker?

Richard ElvinPosted
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  • Cleveland, TN
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Quote from @David Wilhite:
No @Richard Elvin that doesn't really clarify things at all. I think your own conflation and proficient use of non-sequiturs is actually doing much the opposite so kindly stop.

Please point out ANYWHERE I said ANYTHING about listing a property.

I said pay down mortgage and build equity. Now people are ready to fight me. I realize that is NOT the ONLY way to build equity.

Many would bake that equity in by buying below market value for a property they can fix up in order to justify higher rents and a higher appraisal. There are several moving parts and obstacles with this approach - least of which are actually waiting around for someone who will take less money for their property, getting renovations completed on time and on budget, and praying for a good appraisal so you don't lose your shirt.

Of course there is always risk involved but there is also a lot of finger crossing going on here. 

But I'm not even sure a complete novice could confuse the interest deduction on a primary residence with the purchase of an additional investment property. Meth is not your friend.

Which is easier: forcing speculative equity or tapping natural equity? 

The answer is you can do both if you're building equity 3X faster and last I checked having options is better than having only one.

Equity. Balance sheet. Net worth. Wealth. I'm not speaking in code.

Lastly, you wrote it yourself that the refi comes after the rent - not the rehab. Why do you need to rent it for a while before your refi? To build equity. A circuitous method of proving my point but thank you all the same.


You're still ignoring that you're adding to the brrrr, then attacking your straw man argument. 
The fact that you don't wait until after you refi to list it for rent isn't because you're trying to "build equity" it's simply that I'm smart enough to list it for rent as soon as it's rent ready.
Anyway, you clearly don't want anyone to get in the way of your opinion, so I'm not going to bother.
Best to you!

Post: Using your primary home equity

Richard ElvinPosted
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  • Cleveland, TN
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@Eric Wagner "Is this prudent/risky?" Yes and yes. It is risky, but so is getting a mortgage on an investment property. You will most likely have to personally guarantee any investment loan, and your primary home is part of the backing of your personal guarantee. Point being that really anyway you slice it, there's some risk to your primary home if everything goes sideways. (LLC is unlikely to help also, unless it has a significant track record and enough capitalization to not require the personal guarantee).

BTW, I'm in a similar situation. I have a heloc and verbal funding for an investment, when I find one that fits my criteria.
The question I'm asking myself is, "How do I mitigate the risk to my primary home if/when I leverage to purchase an investment property?". 

For me that means being able to cover all payments for the short term, ≤ 6 months, (mortgage, investment property mortgage, heloc, etc) with liquid reserves. (Be cognizant that CC, heloc, LOC, etc, can be frozen at the whim of the bank. If you are significantly leveraged and need to access cash from debt, that can make you look risky to the bank, which can then freeze the funds you might have been counting on. Ask me how I know...)

Long term, that means being able to cover the house and the heloc payments from W2.

That's my thoughts. I hope it's helpful!

Post: Looking for GC

Richard ElvinPosted
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  • Cleveland, TN
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@Matthew Paul Your statement, "You "helping " will actually slow them down." is very true. I jokingly asked a sub (plumber) how much his quote would go up if I "helped". lol
I paid him to replace the tub while I was at work. It looks great and I didn't use vacation time to replace a tub, which I probably would have ended up paying him to do after I spent several frustating days burning vacation time