Hi Flipping Houston Houses Meetup Group http://FlippingHoustonHouses.com
NEED Money for Deals?? ~ NEED Money for Rentals??
NOTICE = Next Meetup Day & Date: Tuesday September 13th 7:00 - 9:00 pm. Our Meetup has been moved to the 2nd Tuesday of each month STARTING on Tuesday September 13th & then each month thereafter.
FREE Dinner & Networking: Starts at 6:30 pm. Free meal for the first 60-70 attendees. First Come first Serve. Arrive Early!
Tuesday September 13th Meetup Topic: GUEST SPEAKER = Angela Nagel with Prospect Mortgage will be our Guest Speaker. Prospect Mortgage is also a Sponsor for our Meetup. We have asked Angela to layout in infinite detail the numerous programs Prospect Mortgage has to TRULY benefit Real Estate Investors BIG TIME!!!! These programs will be expanded upon in significant detail as we (Steve & Peggy) have used these and/or similar programs effectively to help build our biz and will continue to use them to build our biz.
See You at The Meetup! Come Ready to Succeed!
15222 JFK Blvd, Houston , TX
Steve & Peggy D.
http://FlippingHoustonHouses.com to sign up and register for meetup!
Special Thanks to Our Sponsors:
1. North Houston Home Buyers
2. Integrity Title Company
3. Desigmark Builders
4. Bang It Services
5. Prospect Mortgage
6. The Listing Pros
Agreed!
Hi Flipping Houston Houses Meetup Group http://FlippingHoustonHouses.com
NEED Money for Deals?? ~ NEED Money for Rentals??
NOTICE = Next Meetup Day & Date: Tuesday September 13th 7:00 - 9:00 pm. Our Meetup has been moved to the 2nd Tuesday of each month STARTING on Tuesday September 13th & then each month thereafter.
FREE Dinner & Networking: Starts at 6:30 pm. Free meal for the first 60-70 attendees. First Come first Serve. Arrive Early!
Tuesday September 13th Meetup Topic: GUEST SPEAKER = Angela Nagel with Prospect Mortgage will be our Guest Speaker. Prospect Mortgage is also a Sponsor for our Meetup. We have asked Angela to layout in infinite detail the numerous programs Prospect Mortgage has to TRULY benefit Real Estate Investors BIG TIME!!!! These programs will be expanded upon in significant detail as we (Steve & Peggy) have used these and/or similar programs effectively to help build our biz and will continue to use them to build our biz.
See You at The Meetup! Come Ready to Succeed!
15222 JFK Blvd, Houston , TX
Steve & Peggy D.
http://FlippingHoustonHouses.com to sign up and register for meetup!
Special Thanks to Our Sponsors:
1. North Houston Home Buyers
2. Integrity Title Company
3. Desigmark Builders
4. Bang It Services
5. Prospect Mortgage
6. The Listing Pros
Hi Debbie and Shanequa, Thank you for the comments and support. I have just posted a lengthy final reply to Tom! I have no more time for this Bully who attempts to think for othe people.
Shanequa, really sad about Tuesday not working for you. The hotel changed its management for banquets and also its banquet booking requiring we commit for a full 12 months on binding contract. The meetups are quite expensive and did not wan to commit for such a long term so we had to move days to make it work for all parties. I hope you can find a good landing place for Thursdays again for sure.
Thanks Again,
Steve D
Just as I Thought - We Have A Bully in The Midst
Apology, we truly apologize for those of you who have been caught up in this mess and who have been offended by simply sharing your comments on this thread of post. You deserve better for sure! Please do not feel obligated to respond. You of course can and have a right to respond but do not feel obligated for any reason to do so. Again we apologize if you have been offended in any way!
Wow!!! What a Night! Congrats Tom. You have managed to not only offend us egregiously (peggy and steve with your original comments and then subsequent comments) but you have also managed to offend and belittle just about everybody who have posted concerning this meetup. Here is some of your offensive comments about the meetup members who posted
Toms Comments = "As to the five posters who you claim commend you, let's see. One of them has a grand total of one post. Another has 14 total, ALL of which are on your advertisements for your Meetup. Too of them posted "so excited about the topic" for this meetup, when no topic had been presented at that point. I guess my post spurred you to actually come up with a topic, and post here an hour or so ago. So I don't give a lot of credibility to those who commend your meetup." Tom Comments that he is not willing to believe anyones comments. Belittling every poster in this thread as well as the entire meetup group with his comments. Now Who Really Has Something to Hide!
Just as I Thought! We have a Bully Here. We see who doth protest to much. Tom fires the first unsolicited punch (yes some opinion but mostly false egregious statements about us personally, about the meetup and the members who truly effort to succeed with the right mindset). and then when punched back we see who protest to much with hateful twitter like rants not only against peggy - steve but also all others who have commented. . Typical for a Bully who has something to hide Easy to make and take the first punch but not so easy to take a punch. Typical Bully!
Tom, as noted in my original comments concerning your comments = you have a right to your opinion but not your facts. Here is your well known original comments.
Toms original unsolicited comments = "In my opinion, the least productive of the four different Houston meetups I have attended. No outside speakers, very few networking opportunities. Unfortunately, in my opinion, it is primarily a forum to provide leads to the two meetup leaders. At least that was my impression, and I attended four different meetups they held. I suggest all new Houston area investors check out at least several of the meetups around town before settling on one."
Tom, if you would have just stuck with your opinion then so be it. However, it is clear and apparent that when I voiced my opinion of your comments, you did not take it to well. You got off the rails with False and Egregious statements and personallly offensive to us. Your original and subsequent comments have offended all meetup members and attendees as if your words are the gospel and as if nobody else in this meetup or on this commenting thread has a right to think and do for themselves. You have no right to IMPOSE Your Opinion and False Statements on Anyone. Just Simply vote with your feet. Great go to another meetup. Great! But keep your personally damning opinions and Egregiously False Statements to yourself. Everyone on this thread and at the meetups are smart enough to discern for themselves and do not need to be dictated to by You, Me or anyone else. You stepped way over the line by casting and using these false aspersions to meet your own hateful and egregious and selfish ends.
All meetup members have an right to an opinion. But we and they also have a right not to have personal opinions and egregiously false statements imposed on them by a Bully. These folks are smart, seriously minded people who can make up their own minds without a Bully attempting to tell them and impose on them how to think. These meetup members have a right to vote with their feet and attend any meetup they like without false and egregious statements that are not opinions. Just because you or anyone says and opinion is an opinion does not make it an opinion. Egregiously False Statements are not opinions.
Tom, Here is where you got off the rails and went personal in your egregiously false attack.
1. No Outside Speakers = Clearly Blatantly and Egregiously False. Every quarter we have outside speakers that are on the "Ask the Pros Panel" We also have others as noted clearly. Further, I sent the email about Prospect Mortgage to Meetup Members 3 times now starting 10 days ago. Had nothing to do with your post period. Further, every month we have the sponsors speak about their services and offerings and they are there after the meetup during Networking time to network and mingle with all members who do actually network and mingle to help them with their power team if the members want them on their power team. No Opinion just False Statements
2. Very Few Networking Opportunities: Clearly Blatantly and Egregiously False: About half of our meetup attendees arrive around 30 minutes or so before the meetup starts to have a Free Meal and Network. There is some serious networking and relationship building done at this time. Many members and guest then stay at the end of the meetup for Networking many staying up to 30 - 60 minutes after Networking and building relationships. No Opinion just False Statements
3. Primarily a Forum to Provide Leads to The Meetup Leaders: Partially True but Mostly Egregiously False Personally and Personal Attack. As noted yes we get some leads. Of course we get leads not only from this meetup but in many ways as we work really hard to gain and get leads in this biz. We spend a ton of money on marketing. This False & Egregious Attacking Statement is clearly a personal and closed attack based on hateful unwarranted spite from where it comes I do not know. All of our meetup members and guest network before and after meetups to get leads on deals but also get leads on relationships for sure. They also receive training to help them get leads and deals not only from us but from other meetups they attend as well. The idea that we somehow hoard up all these leads from the meetup to the detriment of all others is a so Egregiously False & Personal Attack that will not go unchecked. So then who really has Something to Hide Here???
Tom, You Fired The First Unsolicited Shot with a False and Personal Attack. I fired back because I could not and will not let these Seriously Blatantly False Statements stand. If you would have simply state you feel the other meetups are better for You then great. Like water off a ducks back to me. But to then make the egregiously false statements and personal attacks is way over the line. Tom you like all other meetup members have a right to vote with your feet. You do not have a right to impose with egregiously false statements to then attempt to sway others opinions based on these Egregiously False Statements. Making false statements at an attempt to sway opinion to the harm of others is about as Bully like as it gets. Anyone in our meetup has a right to think for themselves and Vote with Their Feet and their own minds. They may decide to attend Rich or Jet Lending.
We were invited to attend the Jet Lenders meetup 2 months ago and found it to indeed be a good meetup with good info. No problem for anyone to attend the Jet Lending meetup or any others that they would like. However, I have seen in so many cases where new investors get so many opinions and so many docs that they are unsure what to say and what to use. Thus why I strongly suggest to ride 1 or 2 ponies whether it be Steve - Peggy or anyone else. Just focus on what works for you and go get it done.
Tom, I have no need to and will not comment further on this matter. I Truly have no desire to have a verbal duel with your or anyone else. You and I have far better things to do! Further, I have posted comments below from our past meetups! I will let these comments from these independently minded meetup members and guest speak for themselves!
1. Look forward to seeing you all at our next event. Should prove to be quite educational! @Theodore Rivera
2, The last meet up was informative and well attended. Looking forward to meeting more investors and learning more from Steve & Peggy. Hope to spend a little more time networking and trading cards this time, too! @Devon Scott
3. I'm looking forward to the next meeting on the rehab nightmare. I appreciate the opportunity to hear the details of a deal that went wrong and why so I can learn from it.
The last meeting provided valuable information as well.
Thanks to Steve, Peggy & the sponsors! @Marilyn Lee
4. great topic Steve!! And as always, you really give concrete and usable information- the specific outline will be great. Look forward to the valuable information. @Sara Tourtellot
5 I attended Steve and Peggy's Kick-Start training a few weeks ago and it did not disappoint. They have given me the tools to get started in this business and it hasn't cost me $1. Looking forward to learn more at the next Meetup! @Mike Gagne
6. The May meetup was my first one. No way I'm missing the next! Great info....I've already got a stack of questions lined up! @Andrew Farmer
7. I went for the first time last month and I will definitely be coming back for this meetup. Thank you, @Gatewood Brown
8. Right On this month's Q & A session was great looking forward to this next meetup! @Rey Delgado
9. Super meet up this one, looking forward to learning even more than last month. Thanks guys! @Gordon S.
10. One of the best, if not the best meetup in Houston. Can't wait to attend this meeting. Always something to learn. Super excited!!! @Kelvin Aribodor
There are Hundreds and Hundreds more Comments from These Meetup Members Who are Intelligent & Independent Minded People Who Can Think for Themselves.
I Rest My Case!
Steve D.
September 13th Meetup and Many More!
Steve & Peggy will not be deterred by ANYONE from continuing our quest to help those who will listen, learn & execute to become Success Stories in this biz!!! We Will Keep moving fwd. while efforting to bring as many fwd. who have and/or espouse a Winning Mind Set!
See Above Comments from Tom & Steve Above!
Steve & Peggy D.
REPLY TO = TOM COOPER = shown above
Well Hello Tom,
Comment 1: Good to hear from you! Do not Recall when you attended any of our FREE meetups or FREE Training that you asked any questions, ask for any help, ask for help with a deal, or in any way attempted to work with us on any deals whatsoever. Further, you chose not to pitch in to help in any way like some other leaders have. You came to take, take, take and not give anything in return! You attend the meetups free of charge and ate food free of charge, got great info free of charge. According to the other 5 Posters in this thread THEY ALL GET A TON OF GREAT INFO FROM OUR MEETUP!!! Lets see 1 out of 6 Posters has a problem with us and our meetup! I WILL TAKE THOSE ODDS ANY DAY! So Let me Help You Tom = I have taken the kind step to delete your membership from the meetup. Being a Member of Flipping Houston Houses Meetup is a Privilege NOT a Right. You have a right to your opinion. You DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO YOUR OWN SET OF FACTS! Further, I would strongly suggest you review the comments from our prior last 6 meetup postings. Again, you have a right to your opinion but not a right to your own set of facts. You need to take a LONG look in the mirror as stated below! = Students of the Game!
Comment 2: Guest Speakers.= Over the last 2 weeks I have emailed to all meetup members about our Guest Speaker for Sept 13th meetup = Angela Nagel with Prospect Mortgage. Further, 1 time every quarter we either have a Guest Speaker or we have Ask The Pros night in which we have 2 Guest Speakers join our panel on that night. Secondly several months ago we held a special meetup with Tony Robbins Intl FREE of Charge = Steve & Peggy paid in full for this event. We were the sole sponsors. I did not see you there at all.
Comment 3: Students of the Game = Some Make A's - Some Make C's - Some Make F's : Well Tom it is clear from your comments that are fully rebutted by 5 other comments in this thread that you unfortunately did not listen well to the Trainer/Teacher. In any classroom in America there is a Teacher. The Teacher teaches the same curriculum to all students in the class maybe 30+ students. They all get the same materials, they all take the same test, they all hear the same words from the teacher. Why then do some Succeed Mightily and Some Fail Miserably! Indeed there are many reasons but usually those that Succeed Mightily usually say the Teacher is Great. Those That FAIL Miserably usually say the Teacher is a Jerk! Well Tom, I think it is clear here who the Jerk might be!
Comment 4: Leads to Meetup Leaders: So Tom I can now fully understand why you are so disgruntled. Your primary angst is that we actually get a few leads from our Meetup. You know Tom that is the primary reason for the Meetup! All members and their guest come to the meetup to meet people for their Power Team and to find leads for deals and to sell deals. There is serious Networking time before the meetup starts and in many cases members and guest stay 45 minutes to an hour after meetup ends networking! Strange that I DID NOT SEE YOU STAY LONG FOR NETWORKING AT ALL!!!!!! Hmmm! Could be you missed quite a few leads by not participating and also failing as a student of the game!
DO WE GET LEADS = Yes!
DO WE WORK HARD FOR THEM = Yes!
DO WE WORK SMART FOR THEM = Yes!
DO WE SPEND OUR HARD EARNED MONEY TO GET THEM = Yes!
DO WE TRAIN PEOPLE FOR FREE MONTHLY = Yes
DID YOU GET LEADS = No!
DID YOU WORK HARD FOR THEM = No!
DID YOU WORK SMART FOR THEM = No!
DO YOU COMPLAIN or COMMENT HERE BASED ON FACTS = No! Only Opinion and Failed Conjecture!
Comment 5: Tom, Clearly we have failed to do the right thing here. If I have this right then, I suppose we should do all of the following for you in order for you to succeed on any level:
1. Provide a FREE Monthly Training Event! = Check!
2. Provide a FREE Meal at Each Monthly Training Event = Check!
3. Provide FREE Guest Speakers Quarterly for Different Perspectives = Check!
4. Provide FREE World Class Training on a Monthly Basis = Check
5. Provide FREE Leads to You Without You Truly Doing What it Takes to Get Them = NOT Check!!! Not even staying to Network, Mingle, Chat, Converse, Make Deals after meetups during networking!
6. Steve & Peggy Do ALL The Work to Get Hard Earned Leads and we Give Them to You FREE of Charge = You Then Go Succeed Mightily! Tom, It Clearly Appears From Your Own Words This is What You Want and Need= Not Check!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BOTTOM LINE: Tom, Stop Whining & Start Winning!!! Get Off Your *** & Go to Work!! Take a Long Look in the Mirror and Assess What Kind of Student of the Game You Are! And then do what it takes to succeed.
SHAMEFUL: It is so shameful to blame others for your failures and lack of success. It is so shameful to Put Others Down to Make Yourself Look Good. Under No Circumstance would Peggy or I have made a Cheap Shot FALSE comment about you like you just did to us. Bigger Pockets is here to help people build their business. Bigger Pockets is not Twitter or Facebook. It is a Forum to Help people truly succeed. Your so called opinion and false comments belong on Twitter or Facebook where people specialize in spouting off about other people without recourse or regard to facts. Take You Act over to those sites and stay away from our efforts, our leaders efforts and faithful members efforts to truly help people build their biz.
Finally: Tom, Your Scorched Earth Approach to Commenting & Investing Clearly Shows What Kind of Student of The Game Your Are!!! Your Own Approach Demands that You Just Simply Move On to to Other Meetups. And When They Fail in Your So Called Opinion, You can Fail Again and Provide False & Failure latent comments. I Would Strongly Suggest You Move On & Keep Your False Comments to Yourself.
Making False Comments about Other People Publicly is a Very Expensive Hobby!!!! You Should Just Simply Vote With Your Feet. Nobody is Holding a Gun on You to Attend Any Meetup but For Sure not Flipping Houston Houses Meetup Group! You Are No Longer Welcome Under Any Circumstance to Attend the Flipping Houston Houses Meetup Group Period!
Take Your Twitter Rants Act Elsewhere! FREE Speech is Indeed a 2 Edged Sword! But You Had Better Get Your Facts Straight Before You Comment in Such an Inappropriate & False Manner!
Steve D.
@Kelvin Aribodor @Debra Pivonka @Sarah Tourtellot @Tom Cooper @Shenice B.
Comment From Tom Cooper Below Post a Few Post Before This Post:
In my opinion, the least productive of the four different Houston meetups I have attended. No outside speakers, very few networking opportunities. Unfortunately, in my opinion, it is primarily a forum to provide leads to the two meetup leaders. At least that was my impression, and I attended four different meetups they held. I suggest all new Houston area investors check out at least several of the meetups around town before settling on one.
Meetup Location Confirmation
15222 JFK Blvd, Houston , TX
Steve & Peggy D.
http://FlippingHoustonHouses.com to sign up and register for meetup!
See You at the Meetup!
Also Check Out Posting of Topic & Guest Speaker for Sept. 13th Meetup.
Steve D.
Next Meetup Topic -
Hi Flipping Houston Houses Meetup Group http://FlippingHoustonHouses.com
NEED Money for Deals?? ~ NEED Money for Rentals??
NOTICE = Next Meetup Day & Date: Tuesday September 13th 7:00 - 9:00 pm. Our Meetup has been moved to the 2nd Tuesday of each month STARTING on Tuesday September 13th & then each month thereafter.
FREE Dinner & Networking: Starts at 6:30 pm. Free meal for the first 60-70 attendees. First Come first Serve. Arrive Early!
Tuesday September 13th Meetup Topic: GUEST SPEAKER = Angela Nagel with Prospect Mortgage will be our Guest Speaker. Prospect Mortgage is also a Sponsor for our Meetup. We have asked Angela to layout in infinite detail the numerous programs Prospect Mortgage has to TRULY benefit Real Estate Investors BIG TIME!!!! These programs will be expanded upon in significant detail as we (Steve & Peggy) have used these and/or similar programs effectively to help build our biz and will continue to use them to build our biz.
See You at The Meetup! Come Ready to Succeed!
15222 JFK Blvd, Houston , TX
Steve & Peggy D.
http://FlippingHoustonHouses.com to sign up and register for meetup!
1. North Houston Home Buyers - Flipping Houses
3. Integrity Title - Investor Friendly Title Company
4. Designmark Builders - FHA-203K Contractors
5. Bang-It Services - Rehab Contractor
6. Prospect Mortgage - Investor Friendly Loans
7. The Listing Pros - Investor Friendly Realtors
Check out these sites - they may help with your biz!