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All Forum Posts by: Ray Hage

Ray Hage has started 1 posts and replied 1056 times.

Post: Looking to start investing in North Miami / Aventura area

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Unfortunately a turnkey 7.5% cap doesn't really exist anymore. Nowadays be happy with 3-5%. You would have to buy a fixer upper and get it to that that 7.5% level. I would forget about Aventura and NMB. Best bet of those three would be Hollywood. Are you willing to buy a fixer upper duplex or bigger?

Post: Investing (Single, Multi, Condo)

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@Rafael Ramos I would strongly advise staying away from condos especially in south Florida! But if you are going to buy one, make sure it is new construction or recently completed its 40 year inspection. Also, check to see if major work like plumbing/roofing has taken place recently. If not, you could be looking at a huge assessment down the line. There was recently a $224K assessment per condo in Aventura (one town over from Hallandale)! That'll be enough to make the property drop in value. I would advise on a SFH being a STR if you plan on buying something down here. You should be able to make well over 5%.

Post: Intro - Looking to get out of W2 and build a meaningful legacy for my family

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Quote from @Andrew Montgomery:
Quote from @Ray Hage:
Quote from @Andrew Montgomery:

Hello! I live in a suburb of Indy with my wife and 3 teenage kids. We just jumped in the game in April when we bought our first STR in Sevierville, TN. Went big (5BR) and spent more than we wanted but so far so good (on track to be close to breakeven after 1 year). But after doing a lot of reading/research, thinking we want to focus more on LT for the next few deals.

I turn 50 in a month. I've worked in technology sales/mgmt for 28 years and have done well, but probably need to work 5 more years to ensure a comfortable retirement and legacy for the kids. The problem: The thought of working 5 more years in a high stress, anxiety producing W2 is almost unbearable. My wife and I are committed to real estate as our post-retirement gig. I know this is an intro forum but if anyone feels so inclined, would love some different perspectives, what would you do if you were in my position.

The lure of a good salary, benefits and insurance are hard to walk away from. But I'm so busy with my job that I have almost no time to focus on our real estate business (not to mention the constant stress and anxiety of delivering a number year after year). Perfect world, I'd quit today and focus on real estate. I'd rather not touch my 401k but do have $1.2M in stock I could liquidate. Would you throw caution to the wind and jump in with both feet, using half of your savings to build up a real estate portfolio? Or push through working another 4-5 years to make sure you were "safe"? I'm not very well versed on creative financing yet so maybe a better option that doesn't require me parting with my cash? Looking forward to connecting with like-minded folks in this new world!

I certainly wouldn't quit my job and liquidate all the stocks. I don't think it's a wise decision due to the amount of risk. I was able to focus on my W-2 (at that time) and build the RE portfolio on the side. I started acquiring LTRs in my 30s and it was cheaper back then. I think the safe decision would be to focus on your W-2 and do your best with your limited time to get an investment property. Who knows? You might not like it that much so it's not wise to quit and liquidate your stock portfolio for this.

I am an investor first but I also am a realtor and private money lender. It's not quick money and there unexpected expenses that pop up from time to time. It takes a while to build a consistent and sufficient income to replace your W2. If it goes poorly in RE, what would you do? You have to consider worst case scenario of not doing well in RE right away. I like you goal but I think it would be best to build up as best as you can while maintaining a full time position.

Thanks Ray, good advice and I know that's the wise approach. I probably need to look for a less demanding W2 so I can enjoy the next ~5 years and have a little more time to devote to RE to determine if it's right for us, while still making a good income in case it's not. Appreciate the input! 

Yep a less demanding W-2 would work well. This is what I did when I was transitioning out. In fact, the last job I had was very slow at times so that gave me time to work on the RE analysis and managing the properties I already had. Obviously, there was no fulfillment in that job but it was wise. I really made a ton of progress in the RE industry while in that job. It did come with a pay cut but worth it since I wasn't crazy busy or dead tired during or after work. Hopefully, you can find something similar without a major pay cut

Post: Intro - Looking to get out of W2 and build a meaningful legacy for my family

Ray HagePosted
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Quote from @Andrew Montgomery:

Hello! I live in a suburb of Indy with my wife and 3 teenage kids. We just jumped in the game in April when we bought our first STR in Sevierville, TN. Went big (5BR) and spent more than we wanted but so far so good (on track to be close to breakeven after 1 year). But after doing a lot of reading/research, thinking we want to focus more on LT for the next few deals.

I turn 50 in a month. I've worked in technology sales/mgmt for 28 years and have done well, but probably need to work 5 more years to ensure a comfortable retirement and legacy for the kids. The problem: The thought of working 5 more years in a high stress, anxiety producing W2 is almost unbearable. My wife and I are committed to real estate as our post-retirement gig. I know this is an intro forum but if anyone feels so inclined, would love some different perspectives, what would you do if you were in my position.

The lure of a good salary, benefits and insurance are hard to walk away from. But I'm so busy with my job that I have almost no time to focus on our real estate business (not to mention the constant stress and anxiety of delivering a number year after year). Perfect world, I'd quit today and focus on real estate. I'd rather not touch my 401k but do have $1.2M in stock I could liquidate. Would you throw caution to the wind and jump in with both feet, using half of your savings to build up a real estate portfolio? Or push through working another 4-5 years to make sure you were "safe"? I'm not very well versed on creative financing yet so maybe a better option that doesn't require me parting with my cash? Looking forward to connecting with like-minded folks in this new world!

I certainly wouldn't quit my job and liquidate all the stocks. I don't think it's a wise decision due to the amount of risk. I was able to focus on my W-2 (at that time) and build the RE portfolio on the side. I started acquiring LTRs in my 30s and it was cheaper back then. I think the safe decision would be to focus on your W-2 and do your best with your limited time to get an investment property. Who knows? You might not like it that much so it's not wise to quit and liquidate your stock portfolio for this.

I am an investor first but I also am a realtor and private money lender. It's not quick money and there unexpected expenses that pop up from time to time. It takes a while to build a consistent and sufficient income to replace your W2. If it goes poorly in RE, what would you do? You have to consider worst case scenario of not doing well in RE right away. I like you goal but I think it would be best to build up as best as you can while maintaining a full time position.

Post: DSCR Loans for Properties Worth Under 50K Each

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Quote from @Andrew Hinspater:

Hey Robin, yes we've found no DSCR that will go below 75K for the property value. The properties we buy are entirely turnkey and around the 40-65K range. FMR in our markets is around 900-1100 monthly for such properties, so the cashflow is there. We have the capital to buy properties but no way to refinance without waiting at least 6 months. I'm open to a portfolio loan for the properties but I haven't found any without seasoning or that will cash out. Are there any that you would be aware of?

It's frustrating that the only thing standing in our way from fast paced growth is the seasoning period on loans, if there is any sort of way to get around it we're more than open to trying the strategy out! 


 I am a PML. I could lend some of the money on this for 6 months for the seasoning purposes (though it won't be cheap). Let me know. Maybe we can make a deal. I am currently in the St Louis area (O'Fallon specifically)

Post: Excited to be apart of the family.

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Quote from @Allen Hurns:
Quote from @Robin Simon:
Quote from @Allen Hurns:

Hi, I’m Allen Hurns from Miami, FL. I’m looking forward to learning and connecting with you all.


 Welcome! Are you looking to buy your first investment property or do you already have some experience under your belt?


Hi Robin, I have some experience as a LP but I’m looking to buy my own rental property on my own.


 Hey Allen, welcome, I am both an investor (mainly LTR) and realtor so I can give you a couple of tips if needed, especially within the Broward area. Looking forward to chatting sometime

Post: Should I stay away from STRs that only have 1 bathroom?

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Unless you are getting a ton of bad guests, I think a 1 bath property is fine. I have 5 rentals with 1 bathroom and there haven't been many issues over the years. Of course, if you can find a property where you can add a 2nd bathroom or maybe a half, you'd be better off in the random case of a toilet clog.

Post: Is a property manager necessary?

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Quote from @Brandon Morgan:

Hi all, I recently bought a house near Scranton PA it is my first investment property. I live in the Jersey/NY area which is about 2 hours from Scranton. I am still looking for renters and I am wondering if it is necessary for me to get a property manager since I live far away. sometimes there are random things that need to be taken care of that I can't do right away since I do not live close. My realtor says it is not necessary since she can take care of some thing but I do not want to solely rely on her. to anyone investing in this area is it necessary to get a property manager? what is your experience with this and do you have any recommendations?

Generally speaking it isn't necessary if you are willing to put the time in. Do you have a local handyman in that area? That's going to be your number 1 guy. You will also want to have AC/plumber/roofer for bigger issues. The tenant will contact you if there's an issue. However, every 6-12 months, you'll want to inspect the unit yourself since you're within driving distance.

Post: South Florida Condos - Buying, Holding or Selling?

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Quote from @Francesco Ponticelli:
Quote from @James McGovern:

 :D depends on the goal, not all investors have the same one!

How can an investor make money on condos while avoiding future liabilities?

I agree with you that it's hard to predict future liabilities in condos, but if you choose wisely (solid management, reliable developer, newer construction), you can reduce the risk. 

How to make money? Appreciation and understand when is the moment to sell, cash in the equity, and move to the next project.  

And it's not just condos: you can't avoid future liabilities in any RE investment. You can buy a house and it can get damaged by a hurricane (i.e. Hurricane Irma, to mention the latest with big impact here in SoFL), while a new condo can remain intact. 

I think the answer is very market/condo specific.


I agree there are ways to reduce condo risk but it is dangerous in south FL right now. Frankly, I wouldn't feel comfortable owning a condo long term due to rising HOA costs and major assessments. This can happen even with a newer building

Post: HELOC, HELOAN or something else for personal Home renovation

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Quote from @Agustin Conti:

yeap..those are the numbers I am seeing..$1125 in monthly interest is not fun...This is like 14k per year in interest alone. Crazy.. I am ok with 1000 to 1200 per month including some principal payment. but not this. This is like around 50k in interest over 5 years, not a minor expense in the whole equation. dang..it is so easy to make money IF you have the money! the more you have the easier it gets and the other way around.

That is definitely not worth it! Way too much and you end up basically dealing with a lot of crap with very little gain.