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All Forum Posts by: Ray Hage

Ray Hage has started 1 posts and replied 1051 times.

Post: Last minute lending nightmares

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Unfortunately, it is not too uncommon whether with a DSCR loan or a conventional mortgage. It seems most just don't communicate well. I had similar issues 3 years ago with a DSCR loan and recently, a client (I am also a realtor) had similar with a FHA loan, asking to fix up things very last minute and delaying the closing.

Post: HELOC for STR's - Investment Properties and 2nd homes -

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Hi @Nelson Zambrano, speak with @Ash Hegde. He will put you on the right path with this.

Post: HELOC or Cash out Refi in Broward County

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Quote from @Michelle Hall:

Hi BP community,

I own an investment condo in Fort Lauderdale that hasn't sold in a few months. Was considering doing a HELOC or cash out refi to move on to my next property.

Any credit unions or lenders with good rate that anyone can suggest in south florida?

Tough time to sell a condo as inventory is crazy high and unfortunately, going to get higher as they keep building. Is it possible to significantly lower the price and still make a decent profit on it? Aim for the DSCR loan if possible. @Ash Hegde, would that be the way to go?

Post: Looking to start investing in North Miami / Aventura area

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Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Ray Hage:

Unfortunately a turnkey 7.5% cap doesn't really exist anymore. Nowadays be happy with 3-5%. You would have to buy a fixer upper and get it to that that 7.5% level. I would forget about Aventura and NMB. Best bet of those three would be Hollywood. Are you willing to buy a fixer upper duplex or bigger?


Hey Ray, thanks for the reply. I know these aren't products on the shelf, but I have definitely seen off market quadplexes in North Miami with a cap rate of 6-7.5%+ turnkey. 3-5% is what SFH are renting for in this area, I have been looking at the inventory for a while. In the end I'm looking for a good deal. I wouldn't purchase anything that is not break even on market rate to start. If I have to hold off a bit more for prices to cool, I will. I know a lot of home buyers are holding off now for NAR rules to come out, I also see the market cooling across the board.

Hey, you're correct on that. Your best best is roughly break even on most properties or maybe a small gain. I don't believe I have seen anything around 7% Cap rate in a while but I suppose it doesn't hurt to check again. Break even is certainly possible and I think it will become more profitable soon as more inventory stays on the market longer and interest rates come down. If anything the new NAR rules may negatively affect buyers. I am both an investor and realtor so I am seeing it from multiple sides. Frankly, I am hoping for continued cooling but I don't think it will go down a ton but we will see in the next couple of months.

Post: Where I can best advertise my property for sale beside the MLS

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Quote from @Edgar Vega:

Im selling a Charming 2-bedroom, 1-bathroom home in the heart of Miami With a tenant already in place, this property is producing great income from day one. But got not visitor is the market slow? Is it better to take it out of the market or leave it until it sells?


 I would add it to FB market place and craigslist (though you may get a lot of junk email, spam calls on the latter)

Post: Looking to start investing in North Miami / Aventura area

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Unfortunately a turnkey 7.5% cap doesn't really exist anymore. Nowadays be happy with 3-5%. You would have to buy a fixer upper and get it to that that 7.5% level. I would forget about Aventura and NMB. Best bet of those three would be Hollywood. Are you willing to buy a fixer upper duplex or bigger?

Post: Investing (Single, Multi, Condo)

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@Rafael Ramos I would strongly advise staying away from condos especially in south Florida! But if you are going to buy one, make sure it is new construction or recently completed its 40 year inspection. Also, check to see if major work like plumbing/roofing has taken place recently. If not, you could be looking at a huge assessment down the line. There was recently a $224K assessment per condo in Aventura (one town over from Hallandale)! That'll be enough to make the property drop in value. I would advise on a SFH being a STR if you plan on buying something down here. You should be able to make well over 5%.

Post: Intro - Looking to get out of W2 and build a meaningful legacy for my family

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Quote from @Andrew Montgomery:
Quote from @Ray Hage:
Quote from @Andrew Montgomery:

Hello! I live in a suburb of Indy with my wife and 3 teenage kids. We just jumped in the game in April when we bought our first STR in Sevierville, TN. Went big (5BR) and spent more than we wanted but so far so good (on track to be close to breakeven after 1 year). But after doing a lot of reading/research, thinking we want to focus more on LT for the next few deals.

I turn 50 in a month. I've worked in technology sales/mgmt for 28 years and have done well, but probably need to work 5 more years to ensure a comfortable retirement and legacy for the kids. The problem: The thought of working 5 more years in a high stress, anxiety producing W2 is almost unbearable. My wife and I are committed to real estate as our post-retirement gig. I know this is an intro forum but if anyone feels so inclined, would love some different perspectives, what would you do if you were in my position.

The lure of a good salary, benefits and insurance are hard to walk away from. But I'm so busy with my job that I have almost no time to focus on our real estate business (not to mention the constant stress and anxiety of delivering a number year after year). Perfect world, I'd quit today and focus on real estate. I'd rather not touch my 401k but do have $1.2M in stock I could liquidate. Would you throw caution to the wind and jump in with both feet, using half of your savings to build up a real estate portfolio? Or push through working another 4-5 years to make sure you were "safe"? I'm not very well versed on creative financing yet so maybe a better option that doesn't require me parting with my cash? Looking forward to connecting with like-minded folks in this new world!

I certainly wouldn't quit my job and liquidate all the stocks. I don't think it's a wise decision due to the amount of risk. I was able to focus on my W-2 (at that time) and build the RE portfolio on the side. I started acquiring LTRs in my 30s and it was cheaper back then. I think the safe decision would be to focus on your W-2 and do your best with your limited time to get an investment property. Who knows? You might not like it that much so it's not wise to quit and liquidate your stock portfolio for this.

I am an investor first but I also am a realtor and private money lender. It's not quick money and there unexpected expenses that pop up from time to time. It takes a while to build a consistent and sufficient income to replace your W2. If it goes poorly in RE, what would you do? You have to consider worst case scenario of not doing well in RE right away. I like you goal but I think it would be best to build up as best as you can while maintaining a full time position.

Thanks Ray, good advice and I know that's the wise approach. I probably need to look for a less demanding W2 so I can enjoy the next ~5 years and have a little more time to devote to RE to determine if it's right for us, while still making a good income in case it's not. Appreciate the input! 

Yep a less demanding W-2 would work well. This is what I did when I was transitioning out. In fact, the last job I had was very slow at times so that gave me time to work on the RE analysis and managing the properties I already had. Obviously, there was no fulfillment in that job but it was wise. I really made a ton of progress in the RE industry while in that job. It did come with a pay cut but worth it since I wasn't crazy busy or dead tired during or after work. Hopefully, you can find something similar without a major pay cut

Post: Intro - Looking to get out of W2 and build a meaningful legacy for my family

Ray HagePosted
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  • Fort Lauderdale, FL
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Quote from @Andrew Montgomery:

Hello! I live in a suburb of Indy with my wife and 3 teenage kids. We just jumped in the game in April when we bought our first STR in Sevierville, TN. Went big (5BR) and spent more than we wanted but so far so good (on track to be close to breakeven after 1 year). But after doing a lot of reading/research, thinking we want to focus more on LT for the next few deals.

I turn 50 in a month. I've worked in technology sales/mgmt for 28 years and have done well, but probably need to work 5 more years to ensure a comfortable retirement and legacy for the kids. The problem: The thought of working 5 more years in a high stress, anxiety producing W2 is almost unbearable. My wife and I are committed to real estate as our post-retirement gig. I know this is an intro forum but if anyone feels so inclined, would love some different perspectives, what would you do if you were in my position.

The lure of a good salary, benefits and insurance are hard to walk away from. But I'm so busy with my job that I have almost no time to focus on our real estate business (not to mention the constant stress and anxiety of delivering a number year after year). Perfect world, I'd quit today and focus on real estate. I'd rather not touch my 401k but do have $1.2M in stock I could liquidate. Would you throw caution to the wind and jump in with both feet, using half of your savings to build up a real estate portfolio? Or push through working another 4-5 years to make sure you were "safe"? I'm not very well versed on creative financing yet so maybe a better option that doesn't require me parting with my cash? Looking forward to connecting with like-minded folks in this new world!

I certainly wouldn't quit my job and liquidate all the stocks. I don't think it's a wise decision due to the amount of risk. I was able to focus on my W-2 (at that time) and build the RE portfolio on the side. I started acquiring LTRs in my 30s and it was cheaper back then. I think the safe decision would be to focus on your W-2 and do your best with your limited time to get an investment property. Who knows? You might not like it that much so it's not wise to quit and liquidate your stock portfolio for this.

I am an investor first but I also am a realtor and private money lender. It's not quick money and there unexpected expenses that pop up from time to time. It takes a while to build a consistent and sufficient income to replace your W2. If it goes poorly in RE, what would you do? You have to consider worst case scenario of not doing well in RE right away. I like you goal but I think it would be best to build up as best as you can while maintaining a full time position.

Post: DSCR Loans for Properties Worth Under 50K Each

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Quote from @Andrew Hinspater:

Hey Robin, yes we've found no DSCR that will go below 75K for the property value. The properties we buy are entirely turnkey and around the 40-65K range. FMR in our markets is around 900-1100 monthly for such properties, so the cashflow is there. We have the capital to buy properties but no way to refinance without waiting at least 6 months. I'm open to a portfolio loan for the properties but I haven't found any without seasoning or that will cash out. Are there any that you would be aware of?

It's frustrating that the only thing standing in our way from fast paced growth is the seasoning period on loans, if there is any sort of way to get around it we're more than open to trying the strategy out! 


 I am a PML. I could lend some of the money on this for 6 months for the seasoning purposes (though it won't be cheap). Let me know. Maybe we can make a deal. I am currently in the St Louis area (O'Fallon specifically)