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All Forum Posts by: Peter Walther

Peter Walther has started 31 posts and replied 1546 times.

Post: Advice on Specific Performance for Breach of Real Estate Contract

Peter WaltherPosted
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  • Winter Springs, FL
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In my experience, a suit for specific enforcement of a real estate purchase contract is not particularly complex or fact intensive that would lead to extensive time needed for discovery.  Assuming the contract is valid, enforceable, and the buyer can prove (s)he was ready, willing and able to close, a summary judgment might be awarded granting the request.

While every litigant has a right to appeal an adverse judgment, not every request for the appeals court to hear the matter will be granted.  They appellant must show the trial court made an error, either of law or procedure; an insufficiency of evidence; or an abuse of discretion.  If one of those can't be shown, the request for appeal may be denied or the court may hear the appeal and return a per curium affirmed (PCA) based simply on the briefs, both of which will shorten the length of time to conclusion.

I looked at the CO promulgated real estate contract, and it has a provision that the prevailing party will be awarded their costs and expenses including attorney's fees, so the parties better be sure of the strength of their positions.

If it were me, I'd probably push for mediation as soon as possible.  I've found that a good mediator will identify strengths and weakness for both parties and help them resolve their differences.  I would also ask my attorney about the advisability recording a copy of the contract or an affidavit of interest as I think it's possible the seller may have found someone willing to pay more for the property and I'd want a third party to be aware of my contract interest in the property.

Lastly, I'd make sure the attorney I hired specializes in real property law, particularly in the county where the property lies.

Post: Advice on Specific Performance for Breach of Real Estate Contract

Peter WaltherPosted
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Quote from @Tom Gimer:
Quote from @Steve K.:
Quote from @Tom Gimer:

You can't take an element from state X such as "uniqueness" and try to apply it in state Y where that appears not to even be part of the analysis.

Let's see how this turns out.


 Tom so you wouldn't be as concerned about that element? I defer to your expertise here. 

Does the contract include a monetary damages provision? Don’t know, haven’t read it. But given that it expressly includes a specific performance provision I would not be ignoring it… and neither would a judge or mediator.

Real estate is unique by nature. People should stop applying sale of goods theories to it.  


 My thought exactly.

Post: Getting A Deed In Lieu at closing to store away

Peter WaltherPosted
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Quote from @Don Konipol:
Quote from @Peter Walther:
Quote from @Don Konipol:
Quote from @Peter Walther:

I think you'll find most, if not all title insurers, will require the DIL to be dated and executed subsequent to default in order to insure.  In addition, the Grantor will probably be required to sign the same seller's affidavit that are needed for a non DIL closing.  Here's a short treatise by a title insurer:

A deed in lieu of foreclosure is a deed given by the owner of mortgaged property to the holder of the mortgage or its designee where the mortgage is in default and foreclosure is a possibility. A deed is given and accepted as an alternative to ("in lieu of") foreclosure. Unlike a foreclosure, a deed in lieu of foreclosure does not extinguish any of the liens and encumbrances affecting the property.


Most courts recognize the execution of a deed in lieu of foreclosure in a transaction subsequent to the original mortgage transaction as a legitimate alternative to foreclosure proceedings. However, deeds in lieu of foreclosure can be subject to judicial attack by their grantors and their grantors' creditors.

Grounds for attacks on deeds in lieu of foreclosure include the following:

• That the deed was an equitable mortgage - that the parties intended the deed to be given as security for a debt and that the deed was not an absolute conveyance.

• That the deed is either a preferential or fraudulent transaction within the purview of the provisions of the federal Bankruptcy Act or any other related state law.

• That the deed is a device to clog a mortgagor's right of redemption.

• Unfairness of the consideration.

• Coercion, fraud, oppression, duress, and undue influence.

• That the deed is not subsequent to the execution of the mortgage but contemporaneous with it.

• That the grantor/mortgagor was insolvent at the time of the execution of the deed.


An estoppel affidavit (executed and acknowledged by the grantor/mortgagor, attesting to the fairness of the transaction, the consideration exchanged, the value of the property, and other factors showing an intention to make a genuine transfer) or a recital (inserted directly in the deed) are supporting documents used to forestall challenges to these transactions.


State law and local title standards must be consulted in regard to the consideration and treatment of deeds in lieu of foreclosure.


What a GREAT post!   


Thanks. To expand a little on what is mentioned the underwriter's guideline, a DIL does not extinguish subsequent liens, so if the borrower has judgments against him/her/it that attach to the property, the DIL grantee takes title subject to them and may have difficulty getting them released later without payment. In addition, a DIL does not automatically satisfy the underlying mortgage/DOT so if you accept a deed from the DIL grantee you may find a title insurer will require a release or sat of it before insuring.

We have often used a “friendly” foreclosure instead of deed in lieu when we needed to “wipe out” liens junior to ours before taking property title. 

An uncontested foreclosure is often the best way to resolve issues with subordinate lien holders though I've also contacted some and explained they were about to be named in a foreclosure and suggested that could be avoided if they just released the property from their judgment/lien.

Post: Getting A Deed In Lieu at closing to store away

Peter WaltherPosted
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Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Peter Walther:
Quote from @Don Konipol:
Quote from @Peter Walther:

I think you'll find most, if not all title insurers, will require the DIL to be dated and executed subsequent to default in order to insure.  In addition, the Grantor will probably be required to sign the same seller's affidavit that are needed for a non DIL closing.  Here's a short treatise by a title insurer:

A deed in lieu of foreclosure is a deed given by the owner of mortgaged property to the holder of the mortgage or its designee where the mortgage is in default and foreclosure is a possibility. A deed is given and accepted as an alternative to ("in lieu of") foreclosure. Unlike a foreclosure, a deed in lieu of foreclosure does not extinguish any of the liens and encumbrances affecting the property.


Most courts recognize the execution of a deed in lieu of foreclosure in a transaction subsequent to the original mortgage transaction as a legitimate alternative to foreclosure proceedings. However, deeds in lieu of foreclosure can be subject to judicial attack by their grantors and their grantors' creditors.

Grounds for attacks on deeds in lieu of foreclosure include the following:

• That the deed was an equitable mortgage - that the parties intended the deed to be given as security for a debt and that the deed was not an absolute conveyance.

• That the deed is either a preferential or fraudulent transaction within the purview of the provisions of the federal Bankruptcy Act or any other related state law.

• That the deed is a device to clog a mortgagor's right of redemption.

• Unfairness of the consideration.

• Coercion, fraud, oppression, duress, and undue influence.

• That the deed is not subsequent to the execution of the mortgage but contemporaneous with it.

• That the grantor/mortgagor was insolvent at the time of the execution of the deed.


An estoppel affidavit (executed and acknowledged by the grantor/mortgagor, attesting to the fairness of the transaction, the consideration exchanged, the value of the property, and other factors showing an intention to make a genuine transfer) or a recital (inserted directly in the deed) are supporting documents used to forestall challenges to these transactions.


State law and local title standards must be consulted in regard to the consideration and treatment of deeds in lieu of foreclosure.


What a GREAT post!   


Thanks. To expand a little on what is mentioned the underwriter's guideline, a DIL does not extinguish subsequent liens, so if the borrower has judgments against him/her/it that attach to the property, the DIL grantee takes title subject to them and may have difficulty getting them released later without payment. In addition, a DIL does not automatically satisfy the underlying mortgage/DOT so if you accept a deed from the DIL grantee you may find a title insurer will require a release or sat of it before insuring.


YUP I can see lenders just recording the DIl.. the few times I have done that I get title insurance on the dil transfer to make sure I am not taking title to something nasty and or if something comes up in the prelim title report we know we have to move to full foreclosure .. I know most lenders in the bizz will not make this mistake but with all these mom and pops jumping into lending I can see some of them not knowing and just record it only to get a nasty surprise when they go to sell..

I had more than one title claim because a title examiner wasn't aware of the difference between a foreclosure and a DIL.

Post: Getting A Deed In Lieu at closing to store away

Peter WaltherPosted
  • Specialist
  • Winter Springs, FL
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Quote from @Don Konipol:
Quote from @Peter Walther:

I think you'll find most, if not all title insurers, will require the DIL to be dated and executed subsequent to default in order to insure.  In addition, the Grantor will probably be required to sign the same seller's affidavit that are needed for a non DIL closing.  Here's a short treatise by a title insurer:

A deed in lieu of foreclosure is a deed given by the owner of mortgaged property to the holder of the mortgage or its designee where the mortgage is in default and foreclosure is a possibility. A deed is given and accepted as an alternative to ("in lieu of") foreclosure. Unlike a foreclosure, a deed in lieu of foreclosure does not extinguish any of the liens and encumbrances affecting the property.


Most courts recognize the execution of a deed in lieu of foreclosure in a transaction subsequent to the original mortgage transaction as a legitimate alternative to foreclosure proceedings. However, deeds in lieu of foreclosure can be subject to judicial attack by their grantors and their grantors' creditors.

Grounds for attacks on deeds in lieu of foreclosure include the following:

• That the deed was an equitable mortgage - that the parties intended the deed to be given as security for a debt and that the deed was not an absolute conveyance.

• That the deed is either a preferential or fraudulent transaction within the purview of the provisions of the federal Bankruptcy Act or any other related state law.

• That the deed is a device to clog a mortgagor's right of redemption.

• Unfairness of the consideration.

• Coercion, fraud, oppression, duress, and undue influence.

• That the deed is not subsequent to the execution of the mortgage but contemporaneous with it.

• That the grantor/mortgagor was insolvent at the time of the execution of the deed.


An estoppel affidavit (executed and acknowledged by the grantor/mortgagor, attesting to the fairness of the transaction, the consideration exchanged, the value of the property, and other factors showing an intention to make a genuine transfer) or a recital (inserted directly in the deed) are supporting documents used to forestall challenges to these transactions.


State law and local title standards must be consulted in regard to the consideration and treatment of deeds in lieu of foreclosure.


What a GREAT post!   


Thanks. To expand a little on what is mentioned the underwriter's guideline, a DIL does not extinguish subsequent liens, so if the borrower has judgments against him/her/it that attach to the property, the DIL grantee takes title subject to them and may have difficulty getting them released later without payment. In addition, a DIL does not automatically satisfy the underlying mortgage/DOT so if you accept a deed from the DIL grantee you may find a title insurer will require a release or sat of it before insuring.

Post: Getting A Deed In Lieu at closing to store away

Peter WaltherPosted
  • Specialist
  • Winter Springs, FL
  • Posts 1,578
  • Votes 683

I think you'll find most, if not all title insurers, will require the DIL to be dated and executed subsequent to default in order to insure.  In addition, the Grantor will probably be required to sign the same seller's affidavit that are needed for a non DIL closing.  Here's a short treatise by a title insurer:

A deed in lieu of foreclosure is a deed given by the owner of mortgaged property to the holder of the mortgage or its designee where the mortgage is in default and foreclosure is a possibility. A deed is given and accepted as an alternative to ("in lieu of") foreclosure. Unlike a foreclosure, a deed in lieu of foreclosure does not extinguish any of the liens and encumbrances affecting the property.


Most courts recognize the execution of a deed in lieu of foreclosure in a transaction subsequent to the original mortgage transaction as a legitimate alternative to foreclosure proceedings. However, deeds in lieu of foreclosure can be subject to judicial attack by their grantors and their grantors' creditors.

Grounds for attacks on deeds in lieu of foreclosure include the following:

• That the deed was an equitable mortgage - that the parties intended the deed to be given as security for a debt and that the deed was not an absolute conveyance.

• That the deed is either a preferential or fraudulent transaction within the purview of the provisions of the federal Bankruptcy Act or any other related state law.

• That the deed is a device to clog a mortgagor's right of redemption.

• Unfairness of the consideration.

• Coercion, fraud, oppression, duress, and undue influence.

• That the deed is not subsequent to the execution of the mortgage but contemporaneous with it.

• That the grantor/mortgagor was insolvent at the time of the execution of the deed.


An estoppel affidavit (executed and acknowledged by the grantor/mortgagor, attesting to the fairness of the transaction, the consideration exchanged, the value of the property, and other factors showing an intention to make a genuine transfer) or a recital (inserted directly in the deed) are supporting documents used to forestall challenges to these transactions.


State law and local title standards must be consulted in regard to the consideration and treatment of deeds in lieu of foreclosure.

Post: Florida Appeals Court Orders Insurer to Defend Rescission Claim in Title Dispute

Peter WaltherPosted
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This is a recent decision where a title insurer denied coverage to an insured owner who had been named in a suit to rescind the deed into the insured.  The insurer claimed the Complaint alleged matters which were excluded from coverage and therefore liability was denied.  The insured sued the insurer, and the trial court agreed with the insurer and dismissed the insured's complaint.  The insured appealed and the appeals court agree with the insured and reversed the lower court's decision.

I handled a similar title claim where the complaint alleged among other things, the insured knew or should have known about the Plaintiff's prior contract and therefore the deed into my insured should be rescinded.  I believed the company had liability because the allegation "should have known" was outside the policy exclusion.  There was lots of discussion in the department about whether the matter was in fact covered but my opinion ultimately prevailed.  The conversation, as well as this decision, left me wondering how many insureds are denied policy coverage and cannot afford to bring a suit against the insurer and are unable to recover their loss.

Post: Title transfers in courthouse

Peter WaltherPosted
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There's also a considerable risk that the person you're dealing with isn't actually the owner of the property.

Post: Only one spouse signed a "view easement". Now what?

Peter WaltherPosted
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I believe that if the non-signing spouse had an interest in the property burdened by the easement, then the easement interest is not insurable.  However, that doesn't mean the easement is not valid.  If the non-signing spouse agreed to the easement and received and accepted the consideration paid, it very well may be valid as to them.  If the failure to join was a ministerial oversight, then a new deed would probably cure the defect.  This assumes there are no third parties who took an interest between the original deed and the new deed (think mortgage lender).  If there is one, and they did not take their interest with actual knowledge of the easement, then the new deed would need to be agreed to by that third party or would be subordinate to that prior interest.

Post: Deed vs mortgage

Peter WaltherPosted
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Quote from @Ashish Acharya:

@Shannon L Fogarty In this situation, here’s how deed and mortgage rights apply:

1. Ownership vs. Mortgage: The deed reflects ownership of the property, while the mortgage reflects liability for the loan. Since the husband is now the only name on the deed, he has full ownership, while the wife is still liable for the mortgage.

2. Selling or Transferring the Deed: Legally, the husband can transfer or sell his ownership interest without needing the wife’s permission, as she is not listed on the deed. However, this does not release her from the mortgage responsibility unless the loan is paid off or refinanced.

3. Selling the House: If the wife wants to sell, she’ll need the husband’s cooperation, as he holds ownership rights through the deed. A resolution might involve a refinance or buyout agreement to remove her from the mortgage, aligning ownership and liability.

This post does not create a CPA-Client relationship. The information contained in this post is not to be relied upon. Readers should seek professional advice.


    I believe the Note creates liability for the loan, the mortgage creates a lien on the real property that secures the debt.  If I sign the mortgage but not the Note, I don't have liability for the debt, but my interest in the property is subordinate to the lien and so can be foreclosed if the debt is not repaid as agreed.