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All Forum Posts by: Eric Claxton

Eric Claxton has started 5 posts and replied 32 times.

Post: Financing options for destabilized multifamily

Eric ClaxtonPosted
  • Multi-family Investor
  • Marietta, GA
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 6

Hi matt, we have done many deals that way Joel has outlined and seems to work just fine for us- although it does depend on what bank it is that holds the REO. As far as the hard money- at 50%LTV, i would think it would be fairly easy to locate a hard money lender at those LTV (rates will be high).

Originally posted by Matt Hinton:
Joel Owens, thanks for your detailed assessment. Your hypothetical property is eerily similar to the subject property in question. It is a 28 plex that is being sold for@ $12,000/door. I do estimate $4,000 deferred maintenance per door. The average rent is $625, with landlord paying utilities (it is separately metered, though).

The bank that owns it is a state chartered bank; I saw in a local business publication that they are no longer examined/regulated by the FDIC, and are now the first Louisville bank to be a member of the St. Louis fed. I'm a little unclear as to how that impacts their position on handling REO. I know they have not historically been interested in financing such deals, but this could change things?

Do you think with 50% LTV hard money would be an option if banks give it a pass? As I run through scenarios, it seems that if it performs only half as well as expected, it's still very compelling.

Post: Multifamily - Worth The Headache?

Eric ClaxtonPosted
  • Multi-family Investor
  • Marietta, GA
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 6

Multifamily investment is by far one of the best fields to be in within the real estate industry in my opinion.

In our experience our headaches stop after we stablize and refinance the asset. We pretty much get rid of the headaches when our onsite managers handle the sites and report in monthly. With this being said, I strongly advise buying 50+ units at a time- as this is somewhat the threshhold in multifamily for making it economically reasonable for an onsite manager.

Post: Evaluating an empty multifamily

Eric ClaxtonPosted
  • Multi-family Investor
  • Marietta, GA
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 6

Couldn't have said it better my self. It is very doubtful a commercial lender will finance a dark multifamily. So as james said, a cash offer will likely be your recourse.

Originally posted by James Hiddle:
First it's going to be very hard to determine the value of a MF property without income coming in since the value of multi's(5 or more units)is dependent of the income generated and not so much by comps.

On top of that you're not going to get much financing if not at all if this isn't producing so you're going to end up paying all cash.

The risk is very high if there is no income coming in. If you can handle a cash bleed every month while you fix up the property and start getting tenants in than it might be worth it overall but that's if you can handle it.

Post: Real Estate Agent called me and said what I was doing was illegal

Eric ClaxtonPosted
  • Multi-family Investor
  • Marietta, GA
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 6

Totally agreed.

Originally posted by Josh Rogan:
Unless you are a principal to the transaction (your name on a purchase contract with the seller) then yes, technically illegal. If you are just trying to help a friend and are not receiving any gain (money or other consideration) then I wouldn't worry about just trying to help them put it on the Internet to attract a buyer.

Also, DO NOT help these people negotiate or assist in the transaction in any way as this can be construed as practicing real estate without a license.

If you are worried about it consult an attorney. None of my advice above is to be considered legal help in any way, just my thoughts.

Doug, What have you found to be true of the conduit money?

Originally posted by Douglas Dowell:
Love this post! We are spending time seeking out master lease opportunities with the same value add component opportunity. Also seeking to break into syndication.

Love the Hud take out strategy. I would also entertain Hud 221 (d)(4) for a substantial rehab program if I can just master patience lol

We also have looked at conduit money. It seems less ticky tacky and perhaps faster to fund.

One last thing I left out - We buy the LLC that owns the asset, so that we can maintain chain of title (no tax hikes), and back it into HUD 223F as a REFINANCE- as we are refinancing our 50% private note. This takes less time and has alittle less red tape than if we ran it as a purchase we have found.

Hey guys-

Our company tends to be very creative in the way that we finance the front end of our apartment purchases. So i was wondering if other commercial operators are the same or if they are more traditional.

Our typical deal

50% Cash/50% private for for 6-25 months (1.5%-3.5% interest only)
Stablize the asset

end:
Refinance through HUD 223F (83.5% LTV of stablized value, 30-40 year term, 3.5-3.8% interest, non-recourse)--at this stage, we repay our selves for some of our cash inlay for the purchase and we repay our private note holder (whom held around 50% of our purchase). We then add the asset to our long-term portfolio if it is B- or better in quality.

Our typical deal is:

50+ units (sweet spot-150+ units)
southeast
value-add /mismanaged -something that we can put some capital into, correct management course and stablize before we refinance it on a long term perm loan through HUD.

But this is how we do our multifamily- What works for everyone else out there in the BP community?

Post: How is everyone financing their rentals these days?

Eric ClaxtonPosted
  • Multi-family Investor
  • Marietta, GA
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 6

We are buying our multifamily developments (100+ units)

*50% cash/50% private note -6 mo-24 month time on the note (1.5% interest)
*Buying the LLC that owns the development
*stablizing & completing HUD required CapX

end: Refinancing through HUD 223F -83.5% LTV (stablized value), 30-40 arm, 3.5% interest, non-recourse. Our end financing takes a long time to close- but is well worth the wait.

Post: Private Money vs. Hard Money

Eric ClaxtonPosted
  • Multi-family Investor
  • Marietta, GA
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 6

I couldn't have said it better Karen- I think having tenacity is a huge asset in this business.

Originally posted by Karen Margrave:
Adam Steinebach If you lack capital to put into the deal, you need to have something else of value. Experience, skills, etc. to show that you will be able to do the job, and make a profit. Finding SFR homes that have the kind of profit margin in them for you to hire out all the work etc. will be tough. However; I don't know your market.

That being said, you need to get to know your market too. Tax records mean absolutely nothing in regard to value. What are houses selling for that are similar to those you are looking at? What is the demand? What is the local economy? What do houses rent for?

I admire your tenacity, but before pulling the trigger, I think you need to do a little more homework. Part of that work is calling up some HML's and asking them what their criteria is for loans. Explain your situation and ask them point blank what it would take for you to get a loan from them. Then listen. Talk to several.

Post: Apartment building refinancing brainstorming.

Eric ClaxtonPosted
  • Multi-family Investor
  • Marietta, GA
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 6

Thanks for the suggestion- would how would i find someone like this? I think the last time we raised outside investment capital (equity) was when my grandfather was still alive in the 90's. haha- Any suggestions would be welcome!