Quote from @Shane H.:
Quote from @Paul Klei:
Yes it is. I want to structure the lease very carefully to give myself monetization options.
Okay. So I’m not sure what company you’re working with, but they’re normally not super negotiable. Obviously anything can be negotiated, but they have a pretty strict model and they follow it.
Was that a made up number for conversations sake? The 15 million. Or did they actually offer that to you? Because if you have a $2,000 property that is going to pay you 200k for a sign, that’s like winning the lottery. Traffic count must be super high. If it’s an actual offer congratulations. And they are offering yearly payment in that amount? That’s usually in the monthly payment range.
I have never received pushback when valuing mine at a reasonable cap rate. But listing them on my financial statement, not directly borrowing against them as collateral. So if you are buying another property that’s serving as collateral and listing this property at its new value with an income based appraisal I don’t see why it would be an issue. But if you borrow direct against the lease I think that you will receive pushback as you don’t own the structure, they can cancel it and take the structure with them and the bank is back to taking a 2k property if you default. I’ll be following to see if anyone else has worked this out.
Negotiating was their idea. The exact numbers have yet to be hammered out but traffic count/views, the company's rate card, and a 15-20% base ground rent gives us a decent annual payment. No, it is not 200k, but when escalation and/or revenue-sharing provisions are included, over the span of a 75-year lease the math adds up to quite a bit. A single percentage point could make the difference between a 4M, 8M, or 15M gross lease. And obviously that is an accumulative number. Hence my desire to structure the lease to be as long/large as possible to then sell/borrow against it, rather than take the annual payments. However, if I was able to borrow against the land itself by claiming the advertising company as a tenant, I would do that instead. You said you have received never received pushback when valuing yours at a reasonable cap rate - what was that cap rate?