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All Forum Posts by: Patrick Roberts

Patrick Roberts has started 4 posts and replied 873 times.

Post: California AB 130 & SB 681. The Crazies Are at it Again.

Patrick Roberts
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Wild. I just added this to my long list of reasons why I dont do business in California. 

I would expect that there will be class action lawsuits and appeals that will block enforcement of this for as long as possible. Interesting to watch it play out, nonetheless. 

Wouldnt surprise me if banks start using whatever provisions they have available to cancel/convert existing helocs asap to recover as much as they can. 

Post: Private lenders- what LTV do you find appealing?

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Depends on the situation, borrower, and purpose. 

Post: Wholesaler laws becoming formalized and regulated its starting here in Oregon

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Quote from @Troy Gandee:

There are essentially no assignment deals going on in Charleston any longer. At least not with residential properties. You can still assign commercial properties and vacant land, but not with anything residential. The attorneys have essentially been deputized by the REC. Any agent or attorney that assists with a "wholesale" deal could also be liable if they assist with the deal. The bill expressly prohibits agent from acting in or assisting with wholesaling. 

My partner and I just started taking title a few years ago. It's not really been that big of an adjustment. Having to put some skin in the game tends to keep the bad actors out of the process. I'm not upset about the "ban" that we've seen. I just wish the bill was more clear. A lot of people have been trying to find loopholes and some less scrupulous attorneys are still closing these if they're arranged in a certain way.


 I suspect the SC wholesaling law will be revised and materially changed before this is over with. Parts of it are vague, and I personally feel that some of it overreaches the state's authority to regulate. I guess we'll see, though. I know of a few people still doing it illegally. 

That being said, I also dont think taking title is that big of deal, either. It's mostly the wholesalers who have no cash and no ability to get financing that are complaining. 

Post: Myrtle Beach Condo inspection: 24% moisture in walls??

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I close loans in coastal SC all the time and look at CL100's regularly. A moisture content of 20%+ on exposed subfloor in the crawlspace requires remediation prior to closing as it is excessive and damaging. 20%+ inside the property in the conditioned space is a serious problem.

Relative humidity is also high in that reading (over 55%). 

Post: When did you realize Airbnb wasn’t passive income anymore?

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Quote from @John Underwood:

Any intelligent person never thought a STR(Not Airbnb) was passive.


 Lol right? 

Post: ADVICE NEEDED for Financing More Deals

Patrick Roberts
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BRRRR to create the equity needed to cover the LTV gap, househack with a new primary, or save up the downpayment needed. Or partner/JV with someone who can bring the needed downpayment.

Post: Seeking Private Lender for Primary Residence in Colorado Springs

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This would be a consumer finance loan. I'm not familiar with CO's laws, but almost every state in the country does not allow unlicensed persons/entities to originate consumer finance loans without a license unless they are the owner of the property being sold and the loan is purchase money financing. Also, owner-occupied properties have to comply with the ATR rule in Dodd-Frank, meaning the lender would need to evaluate and document your income, credit, and DTI. Asset-based lending does not work with owner-occupied properties (primary residences) for this reason, meaning you cannot lend based solely on the value of the property. ATR has to be considered.

This plan is unlikely to work unless the target property was purely an investment property.

Post: Transaction Funding for Seller Carry RE deal - does anyone want tshare the experience

Patrick Roberts
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A handful of DSCR products will allow a seller carryback second lien, but I dont know of any DSCR anywhere that will allow more than 90% CLTV. If you're attempting to finance 100% of the costs, this is very unlikely to happen. Especially in FL right now.

Post: Need financing for Rural New Construction of a STR

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It's not just new construction - a lot of lenders wont do DSCR loans on rural properties, either. Make sure you can find permanent/take-out financing before beginning work, because even if you find a construction loan, you may not be able to refi out of it.

Post: PML loan to finish new construction

Patrick Roberts
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Quote from @Jeff S.:

While I appreciate your confidence and the sales pitch, @Robin Cochran, you are asking for a rescue loan on a risky project. Sorry, but this will not be “… easy money for the lender."

Your project is incomplete, and you have run out of money. You don’t indicate how this happened or how you know it won’t happen again, but this is something any sensible lender will want to know. I recommend you develop a plan explaining your circumstances, how you got here, and include a plan forward with a detailed scope of work.

Your project might be worth $430k to $450k when complete, but not right now and there’s no way to estimate its value from what you wrote. Few lenders (and contractors) will want to take over an incomplete project if they had to. Don’t be surprised if they value it accordingly.

I’ve no doubt you will receive DMs from many brokers who will have no skin in the game. You could get lucky here. If you’re asking for a private lender to invest their own money, however, I recommend a position of humility with a detailed plan, rather than an offer of “easy money.”


 This. Every time I hear someone wanting "private" lending for their project because it will be "easy money" for the lender, it's a project that no institutional lender will touch and the borrower thinks that 5% is an excellent rate for the lender. Same goes for when borrowers complain about "complex processes" or lenders "wanting too many documents." This aint Push Button, Get Mortgage.