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Post: VA Loan Refinancing

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Quote from @Demetrius Potts:
Quote from @Patrick Roberts:
Whether or not you can use another VA loan will depend on the remaining entitlement on your COE, as well as a few other aspects. Will the new property be a primary or an investment property?
Have you had a lender run the calculation on the COE yet? The math isnt quite as straightforward as it sounds.
If you have been told by a lender that you need to pay off the existing VA loan, then you're probably not going to be able to refi the existing loan without putting some cash into it to push down the LTV. Also, there are some pretty tight rules around experience and reserves requirements when it comes to VA multifamily purchases. Just FYI.
Post: VA Loan Refinancing

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Whether or not you can use another VA loan will depend on the remaining entitlement on your COE, as well as a few other aspects. Will the new property be a primary or an investment property?
Post: Seeking Advice: Spanish Investor Stuck with Lien Only on $50K Bridge Loan – Need Equi

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Lawyer time. Is there not an operating agreement in place already? If not, good chance that youre effed. Was there a promissory note and mortgage/deed of trust or security agreement from the closing that indicates that your contribution was a loan secured by a lien a not a contribution of capital? How are your funds documented on the settlement statement? So many variables here.
You need to talk to an attorney asap. Id take action now to retain all emails, texts, phone call records, document all conversations, etc.
Post: Too Much ChatGPT ? See this Thread and count how many are ChatGPT?

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I agree, the AI generated comments and posts are out of control
Post: The Ticking Time Bomb of Underwater Fix and Flip Projects

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Quote from @Chris Seveney:
Quote from @Patrick Roberts:
Sunk cost fallacy at work. Cut your losses fast and live on to fight another day.
have one right now, 10 months behind, finally got a renter which the rent covers 50% of the mortgage- borrower is now like "i can afford it" but has been living paycheck to paycheck and has no money saved so where they coming up with the delta? Throw in they think it appreciated by 30% over the past year as well and think its worth 30% more than when they had it overpriced and listed a year ago....
Death by a thousand cuts, one mortgage payment at a time.
Post: The Ticking Time Bomb of Underwater Fix and Flip Projects

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Sunk cost fallacy at work. Cut your losses fast and live on to fight another day.
Post: Anyone Else Noticing Lenders Backing Out More Often Lately?

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Quote from @Don Konipol:
Quote from @Deborah Wodell:
Recently, I’ve been seeing more and more posts from investors saying their lenders backed out—sometimes just days before closing. It’s happening more often nowadays, especially with fix & flips and other investment deals.
It’s tough to watch good deals fall apart after all the work that goes into finding and locking them up.
Have you had a deal fall through because the funding didn’t come through in time?
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What did you do?
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Do you have backup lenders lined up, or a plan B?
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Have you shifted toward DSCR, creative financing, or private money to avoid the risk?
Would love to hear how you’ve been handling this lately—your insight could help a lot of people here!
We actually backed out of two deals recently when we found out that the borrower lied or fabricated information. In one he checked the box on the application that said he or no entity he was involved with had ever file for bankruptcy. When our attorney ran a final check before closing we found out that he was IN bankruptcy.
The second deal was a little less straight forward. The borrower showed us a tax return for 2023 that showed he had paid $2,050,000 for the subject property as this was the acquisition cost listed in the modified balance sheet as part of the corporate tax return. Since the loan balance was $595,000 we asked the borrower to confirm that he had paid $1,405,000 down when he purchased the property. He confirmed such in an email to me. However, as part of the final checklist we use, we asked for copy of closing documents when he purchased the property. Turns out he didn’t pay $2,050,000 - in fact he had no money in because he paid only $595,000 - with a “nebulous” promise and u recorded deed transfer back to the seller if he couldn’t cash out for more money.
I guess these borrowers have no problem committing fraud, and probably went to the next lender with a story about how I “left them at the table”.
This is the biggest reason I'm seeing for deals falling apart in underwriting or getting declined at application. Borrorwers either arent qualified and fib about that a little bit, or it's straight up fraud/deception. In the past month, I've had:
- a borrower say that they have the cash for the downpayment, only for the sourcing on that downpayment to show that they didnt have it and that they planned to take a credit card advance
- a borrower refuse to provide a copy of a bank statement until after going under contract (without being preapproved), only for it to show the funds in the account were borrowered, at which time the borrower says "this is why I didnt want to have to give you this"
- a borrower claim that they were divorced when they werent actually divorced yet; they were "basically divorced" according to the borrower
- a borrower tell me that there was some "slight confusion" with their previous lender on a payment, when the reality was that they were 60+ delinquent due to having no cash
- a borrower claim they have "about a 700 score" for their FICO, when the reality is sub 600 due to mortgage lates and credit card chargeoffs
Post: Lawyers/Professionals experienced in foreclosure home

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Fannie mae publishes a schedule of allowable attorney fees by state for foreclosure services. This will give you a ballpark on the cost of the attorney services only. This does not include all the other stuff that the attorney has to order/do on your behalf.
When I had similar questions, I found a reputable creditor's rights attorney in the area I operate in and paid for an hour of their time to get the baseline info I needed. That was the simplest solution, but not the cheapest.
Post: What’s Been Your Experience Finding Funding Once a Deal Is Under Contract?

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I would have financing worked out prior to going under contract on something. Dont want to lose your EMD
Post: Dilemma regarding timing of brrr

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I wouldnt draw on the credit cards. I see this quite a bit - draw on the credit cards for the rehab, then CC ulitization crushes your credit score, then you get horrible terms or declined for a refi because of credit.
If youre wanting to run both projects simultaneously, go get property financing for the rehab now. If not, just wait until the first project is completed. Dont get into a situation where you no have no liquidity - when youre out of cash, youre out of business.