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All Forum Posts by: Patrick Kaiser

Patrick Kaiser has started 5 posts and replied 45 times.

Post: Will an inground pool cause a property to appraise for more?

Patrick KaiserPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Mesa, AZ
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 76

I have other above $30k but can't find them right now. I usually see $15-$30k. Lately they have been higher. It really depends on the comps. Some neighborhoods they may add no value, some neighborhoods they mat add $40-$50k. Usually in the middle. If the buyers will pay $25k for a pool, then it should reflect that in the comps. If you don't know enough about comps, contact a local appraiser and ask them to do an appraisal for you with and without the pool. They should be able to tell you probably more accurately than a real estate agent as appraisers are better at determining value based on individual little stats like this than (we) as agents are. My broker is an appraiser so I have more training and access to a licensed appraiser with over 10,000 appraisals completed so understanding if it will add value based upon comps is crucial. It's not just area dependent, it is micro-area dependent and could change from one neighborhood to the next. 

Post: Will an inground pool cause a property to appraise for more?

Patrick KaiserPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Mesa, AZ
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 76

well this one is $20k

Post: Will an inground pool cause a property to appraise for more?

Patrick KaiserPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Mesa, AZ
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 76

@Scott E. Agreed AZ. here is 2 appraisals value is over $30K

Post: How to invest in a down market

Patrick KaiserPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Mesa, AZ
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 76
Quote from @Scooter Williams:

I own lots of property in Mesa and here is my personal opinion. Prices likely will come down with rising interest rates. However the monthly PMI likely will be the same if not higher because prices I don't believe will come down as much as interest rates are increasing. At least in multi family.

Prices for the rents IMO don’t make much sense currently at least in Mesa. So, I’ve started investing in other markets for now. 

I guess it might be a good opportunity if you buy low and plan to sell years down the road betting that it will be higher at that point if interest rates come down again in the future but that could be a long road ahead. 

Just my 2 cents when it comes to multi family investments . 


you should also check out the investor meetup as well. My broker and his business partner put it on they have sold hundreds of properties here locally and have done every kind of deal including BRRR, lease options, flipping, flipping trailer parks. development, and other stuff. I'm more of a normal real estate agent I primarily do listings so I'm kind of limited to what I see on my listings but my brokerage is an investor focused brokerage so everyone in the brokerage is investors and we work with ever kind of creative finance option available.

here is the link to the monthly meetup first monday of every month 

https://www.meetup.com/Real-Es...

Post: How to invest in a down market

Patrick KaiserPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Mesa, AZ
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 76

@Devan J. I have 5 listings active right now and 3 in escrow so my information is limited to what I'm seeing and a few close friends. Showings are down at least 50% and offers are at least down 75% not on price but on how many we will see on a listing. If we might have gotten 10 offers a month ago, right now we're lucky to get 2. I have 3 listings priced at or below comps that I am struggling to sell. I am seeing people listing houses $25k or more below what the most recent closed comps are. It seems inevitable not to see a correction of at least 10% which would still bring us back to where we were only 6 months ago.

My main fear is what might happen if rents start to go down. With 20% of all homes owned by corporations, primarily as rentals, in my limited experience, these corps were buying as long as they broke even on rent. They were banking on rental rates rising seemingly indefinitely. If the rental rates start to go down, which imo also inevitable, we will see a dump of bottom of the market type of homes primarily below $500k. I can try to provide insight more in depth if there is something specific you're looking for or interested in. There's also a local real estate investor meetup every first Monday in Mesa put on by my broker and his friend who's very active here on bigger pockets named @Shiloh Lundahl

Post: Struggling to find deals

Patrick KaiserPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Mesa, AZ
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 76

Personally I think asking people if they want to sell their house is a waste of time. Set up a web site or advertisement of some kind saying "Sell your home For Sale By Owner" that way you get people who want to sell without an agent and don't want to pay any fees. Perfect. And nobody is doing it. 

Post: I can’t figure it out

Patrick KaiserPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Mesa, AZ
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 76

if you have $125k in cash profits from your last sale, I would think you should have funds to begin flipping. I don't know your market but that should get you a down payment on a house with an ARV of around $600,000, meaning the purchase price should be around $500,000. Being as how that's above the average home price in America you should be able to find somewhere around you where houses are in that price range. You can also house hack, aka rent rooms out in your house. In Phoenix, each room rents out for like $750/month. A 5 BR house turns a monthly profit of $3000/month which should more than cover your mortgage. You can look for a house with lots of bedrooms in that price range, and then you should be able to use the rental proceeds from your previous house to offset the mortgage amount, meaning you shouldn't have to qualify for both mortgages based on your income alone.

Then you are living rent free and own 2 houses. Not sure if I'm understanding your situation correctly or if that works for your family situation, but you can also buy a duplex, triplex, or 4-plex on conventional loan. 

Post: How to invest in a down market

Patrick KaiserPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Mesa, AZ
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 76

After speaking with a buyer last night who wants to get into real estate investing but believes the market is going to go down, he asked me an interesting question. How do you invest in a market that's going down?

My response is going to tick a lot of people off so feel free to complain away. IF YOU BELIEVE THE REAL ESTATE MARKET IS GOING DOWN (and I'm pretending to know) then the only thing you need to do right now is hoard cash. Your stocks are down already sometimes as much as 50%. Your $401k will be down. It will be the absolute wrong time to be pulling out of the stock market, probably right before it rebounds. Cryptocurrency will soon be worth less than the cost to mine it meaning it will also go to 0. Anyone who previously believed that cryptocurrency was a hedge against volatility must know at some point they were absolutely out of their minds. Anyone holding crypto will go bankrupt. Real estate in a down market will be harder to sell. 

Quite possibly the only thing that could and would probably go up will be gold, but, IMO that's not guaranteed either, and therefore the only way to know you'll have cash to buy something in a down market is to hoard cash. When the market goes down, you're going to need it and since nobody has the foresight to hoard it when things are up, nobody has it available when the market is cheap. 

https://grow.acorns.com/why-wa...

Post: QOTW: Are you seeing any new trends in your local market?

Patrick KaiserPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Mesa, AZ
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 76

Slowing down in Phoenix especially at upper price points realistically above $500. Been hearing it from other agents as well. Had listings at $480,000 and $525,000 that I struggled to sell. Got a listing at $1.2m that is superb but showings are slow and not offers yet. Below $400k is still busy. 

Post: Real Estate Business Plan

Patrick KaiserPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Mesa, AZ
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 76
Quote from @Scott E.:

Getting organized with a business plan is a good idea. But don't get too hung up on it. Knock something out in an hour later today. Scribble it on a napkin if you need to. Doesn't need to be fancy and formal. The things that I outlined on my original business plan were:

1. What real estate investing niche to focus on (in my case, I chose flipping houses)

2. What zip codes and neighborhoods would I target?

3. Who are 3 general contractors I could call if I found a deal?

4. Who are 3 real estate agents I could call to help me run comps on a deal?

5. How would I fund these deals?


 Want to agree with Scott here. Don't get hung up on details. As an agent that works primarily with flippers and wholesalers, I see a lot of people fail. 

The idea for every single real estate investment strategy is the same at its core: You need to sell something for more than you pay for it.

In order of exposure to risk/ holding time

#1) Wholesaling

You put a property under contract and re-sell it in a matter of days for a small profit

#2) Flipping

You put a house under contract for less than it takes to flip it and sell in a few months to make profit

#3) Arbitrage

Put a house under contract for 1 year lease, and do STR for more than you are paying monthly

#4) House Hack

Own the house, live in it, and rent rooms out for more than your monthly payment. Asset appreciates at predictable (though not constant) rates. If you don't like it, you should be able to kick the tenants out and just live there

#5) Rental

Own the house, rent it out. Stable long term rents higher than mortgage. Asset appreciates as well. Due to instability in short term markets, this should always be along term (10-20 year) plan

There are also variations on some of the acquisitions for each of these, such as hard money loans, conventional loans for house hacking, sub to on mortgages, etc. But they all boil down to the same thing: you need to sell something for more than you paid for it. 


For that reason my advice to newbies is always the same and is where most people fail: you have to know how much the asset is worth. The asset is depending on which of these things your doing. In wholesaling, the asset is the contract. You need to know how much you can sell it for before you offer. For flipping the asset is the post-fixed up house. You need to know how much it will sell for before you buy it/ start renovations. For Arbitrage the asset is the rental. You need to know how much it rents for short term. For house hack you need to know how much rooms rent for/ how much mortgage will be. For LTR you need to know how much long term rent is, general maintenance expenses, and mortgage rate. 

I get calls from would be flippers, wholesalers, and new agents on an almost daily basis, and especially the wholesalers, but all parties, ask me two questions: #1) do I have any off-market properties and #2) What is the retail value of those properties?

I almost always have off-market properties available but if I'm not representing you, it is super not my job to answer question #2. You need to tell me how much you are willing to pay. People always asking me what I want to sell it for. No, doesn't work that way. You need to come ready to this conversation with a price in mind. And for that reason, my advice is pick one of these things and get good at comping properties and/or find an agent/mentor who will help you. I run comps for flippers on a daily basis. It's not a science, more of an art. It's not 100% accurate. Don't rely on the people selling the properties to tell you how much they are worth. You need to know for yourself. Start watching market, see what people are paying for houses before and after flips, or rentals, or whatever you're doing. Get on wholesalers emails and watch which houses sell and which don't. But if you need to only know one thing, this is it.