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All Forum Posts by: John Chapman

John Chapman has started 28 posts and replied 87 times.

Quote from @Brian Dela Cruz:

@John Chapman

Typically, this would be treated as a sale, unless you reinvested the insurance proceeds into another rental property within two years (by either rebuilding or replacing), you can defer the tax under IRC Section 1033. 

The replacement property must be similar in that it is another rental property. If you do not reinvest all the proceeds, any excess amount not reinvested is immediately taxable. If you don't rebuild or replace, the transaction is taxable. Meaning, if you take the money only, you would have depreciation recapture from your cost basis up to the original purchase price of the building (not including the land cost because it wasn't depreciable), plus a capital gain up to the insurance proceeds.

Hope this makes sense. In general, these are the rules. Consult your tax pro for more details or greater clarification, or contact me. I would be happy to help.


Thanks so much, Brian.  We will be rebuilding the house that burned down.  It will be almost like new after we finish.  Glad we don't have a huge tax liability.  The bummer is that my insurance premiums will go through the roof for a while -- If I can get a policy.
Quote from @Michael Plaks:
Quote from @John Chapman:

I had a rental house that burned down.  I have owned it for a very long time and had depreciated most of the original purchase price.  I had replacement coverage insurance and received about 300K to restore the house.  Since my adjusted basis is about 50K, am I going to have a $250K gain on my income taxes this year? Is there anything I can do to reduce the gain?


Sorry about your  and your tenants' ordeal. Most of the responses show lack of understanding of how it works. It's way more complex than saying "not taxable." And it depends on what you do next - rebuild or sell as is or some other plan. 

If you spend the entire $300k restoring the property, then here is the end result:
- deductible casualty loss of $50k
- no current tax
- the restored property has $0 basis and cannot be depreciated
- when it is later sold, the entire sale price is taxable

Mechanics and reporting are tricky, and I would not recommend to DIY it, especially since my scenario is over-simplified, and your real scenario is likely to involve more gotchas.

Thanks so much.  I spent the entire 300K on restoring the property and did not think I could deduct 50K and that my basis would remain 50K.
Quote from @Bill B.:

Shouldn’t be a gain, but your cost basis will remain the same if only insurance money is spent rebuilding it. 


This is a great relief.  Thanks!  That's what I get from relying on the IRS forms.
I did receive a 1099 for the reimbursement for loss of rents.  But you are right, I didn't receive a 1099 for the replacement cost of the building. Thanks!

I had a rental house that burned down.  I have owned it for a very long time and had depreciated most of the original purchase price.  I had replacement coverage insurance and received about 300K to restore the house.  Since my adjusted basis is about 50K, am I going to have a $250K gain on my income taxes this year? Is there anything I can do to reduce the gain?

Post: Forming an LLC for multiple properties

John ChapmanPosted
  • Investor
  • Pullman, WA
  • Posts 87
  • Votes 16

I have over 10 properties with a partner. We are going to create an LLC. I first envisioned having an LLC that would have all the properties in our portfolio. When I saw my tax advisor/attorney, he said another option would be to have a separate LLC for each property with a holding company for expenses common to all properties and to make distributions and contributions. A compromise would be to put half the properties in one LLC and the others in another LLC. Has anyone else gone through this exercise and can shed some light on the positive and negative aspects of the different approaches? Thank you!

Post: Need property manager for duplex on Corbett

John ChapmanPosted
  • Investor
  • Pullman, WA
  • Posts 87
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Steven Wesolowski:

out of curiosity, have you tried contracting neighboring property management companies or groups in Pullman to see what they can offer that is mutual beneficial to your situation? Highland Property Management, Midway Property Management? DABCO Property Management, Crimson Properties? If so, what's been the good, bad, and ugly from each? All the best.


Not sure I understand what you are proposing.  None of the Pullman property management companies would take on a small property in Portland.

Post: Need property manager for duplex on Corbett

John ChapmanPosted
  • Investor
  • Pullman, WA
  • Posts 87
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Steven Wesolowski:

out of curiosity, have you tried contracting neighboring property management companies or groups in Pullman to see what they can offer that is mutual beneficial to your situation? Highland Property Management, Midway Property Management? DABCO Property Management, Crimson Properties? If so, what's been the good, bad, and ugly from each? All the best.


Not sure I understand what you are proposing.  None of the Pullman property management companies would take on a small property in Portland.

Post: Need property manager for duplex on Corbett

John ChapmanPosted
  • Investor
  • Pullman, WA
  • Posts 87
  • Votes 16

I'm looking for a property manager for a duplex on Corbett Ave.  Property is currently managed by my daughter who lives in the upper unit, but she will be leaving and we are investigating profitability of having the property professionally managed.  Estimated gross income for both units around $4,400/mo.

Post: Vancouver rental properties

John ChapmanPosted
  • Investor
  • Pullman, WA
  • Posts 87
  • Votes 16

Vancouver Washington seems like one giant sprawling suburb. I'm sure it depends on the area, but is it a good rental market for single family and duplexes(house with ADU) in some of the newer sprawling neighborhoods?