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All Forum Posts by: O'brian R.

O'brian R. has started 9 posts and replied 143 times.

Post: Negatives of a high LTV HELOC?

O'brian R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Redondo Beach, CA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 50

Hi Brian, just wondering how your first BRRRR went and what LTV HELOC you ended up using. I'm considering doing the same in using a HELOC with my primary residence to fund new acquisitions through BRRRR.

Post: Out of state investing- SCAM! False promise land of cash flow.

O'brian R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Redondo Beach, CA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 50

Passive investing using the turnkey approach definitely sounds enticing when you're getting started. I mean, there's no work needed to be done ("turnkey"), it's completely passive (i.e. management in place), and you just collect cash flow right? For all the reality checks that @Joe Kim pointed out, I'm glad I decided to pass on this approach a couple years ago when I first started.  So much of an investor's success is determined by how you buy it. With TK, you buy at retail if not higher with some operators. Second, at that high purchase price, it really limits your exit strategy options. Most TK buyers will say that they'll just hold it long term, so they're aren't considering exit strategies. Though consider if something happens. How well can you sell that property that you overpaid for? Will it sell for a loss or is your hope to sell it to another out of state TK buyer? To me, these just don't sound like good exits. 

I still think one can be successful investing out of state though. I own a couple rentals this way, but I just didn't go the TK route. I bought mine at a discount and have decent equity in mine because of the rehab we put into them. As a rental though, having good management in place is key. You give up a lot of control by relying on someone else to manage, so as long as they're trustworthy and good at what they do, you can be successful out of state IMO.

Post: Doing Direct Mail Campaign Out of State

O'brian R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Redondo Beach, CA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 50

@Serena Halterman Interesting thread. I've been thinking of exploring DM out in KC as well. I've worked for the last couple years with a realtor down there who checks out potential properties, provides an estimate on needed repairs, and submits an offer for me. Though 2016 has been tough going the MLS route and I haven't had any luck either.

@Matt Pritchard Do you mind sharing any wholesalers that you recommend out there? I can PM you too.

Post: Newbie from Portland, OR

O'brian R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Redondo Beach, CA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 50

@Noah Jones Welcome to the BP family! You've got a great plan there and you'll learn a ton by continuing to interact on the forums as well as your local REIAs. Lot of smart people here on BP who are very generous in sharing their experiences with anyone willing to ask and listen. Good luck!

Post: Meetup in Kansas City, Missouri

O'brian R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Redondo Beach, CA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 50

@Rob Scarborough Dang! I would have loved to attend this Saturday, but I don't get into KC till next Tuesday. I'll have to keep this meetup in mind for future visits.

Post: How Accurate Is The 2% Rule?

O'brian R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Redondo Beach, CA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 50

@David Lowe whoops, ignore the last post with the 2 images. The data tables were mostly correct, except I forgot to update the formulas for rent/price rows 0.5%-0.7%. 

Here's an updated correct version. 

Post: How Accurate Is The 2% Rule?

O'brian R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Redondo Beach, CA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 50

@David Lowe 

To your request. I extended the range of the analysis between 350k and 750k. The only problem is what expense ratio to use. 50%? Probably not. I know I'll get a lot of people to gripe that expenses are being overestimated if I assume the 50% Rule. If anyone has experience owning rentals at this price range and wants to suggest a good or realist expense ratio, please do so. 

For the time being, I'm assuming an expense ratio of 45% at $350k. Then I'm linearly dropping that down 0.25% for each additional 25k jump in price. This way, I'm not penalizing higher priced properties by assuming the same expense ratio. 

Also, I'm adding a Cash-on-Cash table for this price range using the same cash flow numbers in the first table. 

Here you go :)

Post: Cashout Refinance

O'brian R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Redondo Beach, CA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 50

@Chris Mason Thanks for sharing that strategy. Though, for step #1 properties that tend to need a lot of rehab generally don't qualify for conventional financing. I guess that's why most people do an all cash purchase at this stage. 

So using your same approach, would you agree I can regain my cash within 6 months by doing the following? An all cash purchase, rehab to hit ARV, cash-out refinance with hard money or private lender to pull my cash out, then refinance again into Frannie/Freddie as a rate & term refinance.

Post: What are your favorite books?

O'brian R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Redondo Beach, CA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 50

In regards to learning the formulas and numbers of real estate, my favorite is Frank Galinelli's What Every Real Estate Investor Needs to Know About Cash Flow ... And 36 Other Key Financial Measures. Longest title ever.

Post: How Accurate Is The 2% Rule?

O'brian R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Redondo Beach, CA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 50

Sure, the 50% rule will overestimate expenses for high-end luxury expensive SFRs and underestimate Class D sub 30k rentals. Though I'll bet that most investors here on BP aren't pursuing properties that rent for $10,000 in Beverly Hills. That's why I didn't include homes over $200k. I was looking for general trends in cash flow so I used a widely accepted rule in assuming 50% expenses to help make my life a bit easier.