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All Forum Posts by: Nick Louie

Nick Louie has started 10 posts and replied 56 times.

Post: Buyer Agent's Commission Fees

Nick LouiePosted
  • Attorney
  • Weehawken, NJ
  • Posts 56
  • Votes 35
Originally posted by @Brian Walters:

I'm just getting started in this, don't have our first investment property yet but met with a local agent who was professional and more than nice.  Then at the end threw in a quick mention of the exclusivity agreement.  Told him I would think about it, called him a few days later asked him to explain what it included and it's exactly what it sounded like, and the term he wanted was 7 months.  

While I understand the agents concern of putting time and effort in and then the chance of the property being taken to someone else, especially as someone starting out to limit your sources of leads to 1 person seems like it helps them more than you.  

Did some further research and found this agent had 4 sales in the past 12 months.  Feel like I definitely made the right decision sticking with my gut on this one.

A 7 month term sounds overly onerous. I agree, it's important to due our due diligence before signing an exclusivity agreement. 

Do you recall the precise terms of the exclusivity period? For instance, did the exclusivity period prohibit you from purchasing a property in any manner, either by yourself or through another agent that listed property your agent did not list? 

I think an exclusivity arrangement is acceptable, but it has to be drafted properly. Most of the time, the agents have boilerplate templates, and they don't want to change the terms. But all contracts are negotiable. 

Post: Buyer Agent's Commission Fees

Nick LouiePosted
  • Attorney
  • Weehawken, NJ
  • Posts 56
  • Votes 35
Originally posted by @Alexander Murillo:

@Nick Louie the buyer broker agreement obligates the agent to represent your best interests. It does not limit the listings you have access to, unlike what some have said in here. All agents should have access to their local MLS, where they can see EVERY agents listings and set you up on a search so you're notified when a deal comes along. Very few agents will steer you only their listings, which is a good way to lose your future business.

My brokerage requires the agreement, and personally I wouldn't be fully motivated to help you if you didn't agree to sign it. If a couple weeks pass and the relationship isn't working out, I'm happy to let clients out of it because I try to avoid unnecessary headaches and wasting my time. But if I've spent hours, miles, and opportunity cost on a specific client, only for them to call the listing agent (who will not represent your best interests) then I'll want to be paid. Just like a contractor will want to be paid after remodeling your house.

But this almost never happens, and I've never had a situation where the seller wasn't paying the commission in my market.

Thanks for sharing here. Just out curiosity, how long is your exclusivity period? Feel free to give a range if you'd like to keep confidential. In my instance, the exclusivity period was three months. 
 

Post: Buyer Agent's Commission Fees

Nick LouiePosted
  • Attorney
  • Weehawken, NJ
  • Posts 56
  • Votes 35
Originally posted by @Peter K.:

Hey Nick,

In this instance, it would be difficult (as a selling point) to buyer's since sellers cover buyer's agent commissions and there are many agents out there that are willing to work with buyers w/o any retainer fees and/or guarantee of payment. At the end of the day, you'll have to make the judgment call with your buyer-client to see if it's worth your time to work with them and have the potential to lose out on a commission if they don't close. Really comes down to your comfort level and judgement call.

I agree. I think it also just comes down to the language within the agreement. In my instance, the language put a limit on the duration of the exclusivity, and it was a short period. I found this acceptable because I like the buyer agent and the team. 

For the commission arrangement, I felt like the terms of the contract weren't overly aggressive, but it definitely wasn't market standard. My stance is if the buyer agent wants a guaranteed 2%, then they need to help me locate a property where the seller is offering this commission with the listing agent. The terms in the contract, as stated, essentially said I had to personally guarantee the buyer gets 2%, and if the seller gives less (e.g., 1.5%), then I have to make up for that .5% at closing, which could be added onto my mortgage (that I need to pay back eventually). 

If the buyer agent is getting a guaranteed 2% + exclusivity, then I could imagine they definitely have an incentive to get the ball rolling. But the problem for the buyer agent is the market is competitive. At the outset, it's difficult to justify this arrangement, when other brokers are even going so far as to offer rebates on commission fees. It's also hard to demand these type of "aggressive" terms before demonstrating value or distinguishing your services from the other agents in the market. This has been my introduction into the world of real estate investing. Game on! 

Post: Should Pre-Approval Letter Contain Interest Rate?

Nick LouiePosted
  • Attorney
  • Weehawken, NJ
  • Posts 56
  • Votes 35
Originally posted by @Jared Hottle:

I cannot speak for NYC but that is how it works in Iowa. The pre-approval letters are pretty general because they do not know when you will buy and how much the property will be. Around here they can lock the rates once a purchase agreement has been signed and the closing date is within 45-60 days but I know New york takes way longer to close so unsure if they can lock the interest rate when you get a purchase agreement or not there. 

Hi Jared - I agree with you on this. It seems strange to me that I would have to make a binding offer without knowing my mortgage interest rate..Also, how and when should I shop my pre-approvals around without knowing the rate...

Post: Should Pre-Approval Letter Contain Interest Rate?

Nick LouiePosted
  • Attorney
  • Weehawken, NJ
  • Posts 56
  • Votes 35

Hi BP Community,

I'm a first-time home buyer in New York City. I was wondering whether a pre-approval letter from a bank should always contain the pre-approved amount plus the interest rate for the duration of the term? 

My lender told me that I cannot lock a rate until you are in contract to purchase. Is this accurate? 

Thanks! 

Regards,

Nick

Post: Buyer Agent's Commission Fees

Nick LouiePosted
  • Attorney
  • Weehawken, NJ
  • Posts 56
  • Votes 35

@Joe Norman

Great advice! Thanks. I’ll let you know how it goes!

Post: Buyer Agent's Commission Fees

Nick LouiePosted
  • Attorney
  • Weehawken, NJ
  • Posts 56
  • Votes 35

@Joe Norman

Thanks Joe. This approach is very reasonable. If the seller isn’t offering to cover the buyer agent’s commission, then the agent should notify the buyer beforehand, so the buyer can determine whether to submit an offer.

So before the agent submits an offer on behalf of the buyer, we would all know whether the seller will cover the buyer agent’s fees, correct?

Post: Buyer Agent's Commission Fees

Nick LouiePosted
  • Attorney
  • Weehawken, NJ
  • Posts 56
  • Votes 35

@AJ H. Thanks! I agree with this. So you agree that type of arrangement isn’t “customary” in most markets, or at all right?

Just curious, how would you evaluate whether a buyer’s broker would be worth assuming this type of obligation?

Post: Buyer Agent's Commission Fees

Nick LouiePosted
  • Attorney
  • Weehawken, NJ
  • Posts 56
  • Votes 35

Hi BP Community,

I was wondering whether it's customary (in your respective communities) for a first-time home buyer to work with a buyer's agent and agree to exclusivity for 3 months and to pay the agent 2%. In this situation, the 2% would be deducted from the seller's closing costs, but in the event the seller doesn't give 2%, then the buyer would have to cover the buyer agent's commission by including the costs in the mortgage. 

From searching on the BP forums, I know whether to enter into exclusivity for 3 month is subjective. But whether to agree to cover 2% commission fees is more questionable. I was just wondering the BP community's thoughts on this payment arrangement. 

Thanks! 

Originally posted by @Georges Benoliel:

For buyers who qualify, based upon their family’s income level, The State of New York Mortgage Agency (SONYMA) offers a few mortgage programs explicitly designed to help first-time homebuyers purchase homes. The programs offered by SONYMA are often desirable and feature competitive interest rates (currently 3.5%). They also offer a 3% down payment requirement, flexible underwriting guidelines, no-prepayment penalties, and down payment assistance.

To qualify for a SONYMA loan as a first-time homebuyer, you cannot have owned your primary residence in the last three years. You must meet the income limits, which vary per county throughout New York State. Additionally, there are purchase price limits, making it virtually impossible to find a Manhattan property that qualifies.

One benefit of this type of loan is that your credit does not determine the interest. However, we recommend a had good credit. Instead, the interest rate is the same for everyone. Lastly, even though the program allows a 3% down payment, that doesn’t matter if the coop board requires the typical 20 to 30%.

Hi Georges - thanks for your reply. Do you work as a lender in NYC? 

My understanding is that I wouldn't be able to just apply for down payment assistance right? I would need to apply for my home loan with SONYMA, and this mortgage product has income limits, therefore, the down payment assistance program also has income limits...

My income would disqualify me.