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All Forum Posts by: Nicholas Ernewein

Nicholas Ernewein has started 4 posts and replied 11 times.

Post: Question about buying

Nicholas ErneweinPosted
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So this isn't actually me buying the property but a friend of mine, is signing the closing paper tomorrow for a house for 200k, in the Buffalo, NY area. So I he has a question, and I didn't know so I told him I would ask around. Here is the scenario...

The seller has a couple other complexes he found out. He also discovered this lady is going through a divorce. She offered to cover 2k of the 15k closing costs, my friend had the property checked to see how much it was going to be to repair this house which ended up coming to 30k. The seller, and him both agreed on lowering the cost of the of the house 15k ( 183k now ). My friend was hyped because it would be a lower cost on his mortgage, he originally was going to pay the rest of the closing costs out of pocket.

However this is where I get lost, I don't know if the following is common or not. The seller said she wanted to keep the mortgage the same, and pay my friend 15k and closing, and have the 15k go towards the closing cost, so after that my friend would actually see around $800.00 however the mortgage would stay at 198,000 ....

Originally posted by @JD Martin:
Originally posted by @Nicholas Ernewein:
Originally posted by @JD Martin:

No, what she means is how much do you want to spend? If 4's go for $200k in Buffalo and you tell her your budget is $100k, then she knows it's probably a waste of time to work with you. 

As for your source of funding, yes it is the realtor's business because they are going to have to disclose this information to the seller when they write up a contract. You can't just write "It's a mystery" in the funding section. If you are paying cash, expect to have to provide some proof of funds. If you are using conventional, they may want to see some kind of pre-approval. If you are using VA or FHA, you may have to show your proof of eligibility. ETC.

 Okay, I made post somewhat about this yesterday. If I know I won't be ready to make the purchase until like 6 months, should I wait on discussing this information for now. I don't want to waste her time, But I'm also very curious on the costs of 4plex's in my area so I can adjust for the up and coming months to meet the financial needs of purchasing this property.

 I don't see the harm in discussing. People can't read your mind, and no one will know if something is appropriate or possible for you if you don't tell them what you are looking for and what kind of resources you plan to access to get it.

Okay cool I appreciate your help.

Originally posted by @JD Martin:

No, what she means is how much do you want to spend? If 4's go for $200k in Buffalo and you tell her your budget is $100k, then she knows it's probably a waste of time to work with you. 

As for your source of funding, yes it is the realtor's business because they are going to have to disclose this information to the seller when they write up a contract. You can't just write "It's a mystery" in the funding section. If you are paying cash, expect to have to provide some proof of funds. If you are using conventional, they may want to see some kind of pre-approval. If you are using VA or FHA, you may have to show your proof of eligibility. ETC.

 Okay, I made post somewhat about this yesterday. If I know I won't be ready to make the purchase until like 6 months, should I wait on discussing this information for now. I don't want to waste her time, But I'm also very curious on the costs of 4plex's in my area so I can adjust for the up and coming months to meet the financial needs of purchasing this property.

I've recently contacted my old classmate who went into being a relator, about information in the buffalo area. I was looking to see the pricing of 4plex's in the area. She responded with she would love to help me and asked me have I talked to anyone about a budget yet. I don't want to sound dumb ( Im as fresh as it comes ) does she mean how im funding it such as a FHA loan, or like a traditional bank loan with 20% down.

Also does the relator need to know what kind of loan I go through, is it any of there business. I don't mind I just don't know if I should be telling them this information or it doesn't matter.

Also If I really want to do an FHA loan, should I tell my relator? I know houses have to meet a strict outline before they will approve it.

Originally posted by @Robert Gannon:

@David Niles Thanks for your input. The Buy and Holds in that area have pretty good margins right now even in the inflated market. Good deals in the 50-70 range for BRRRR investors and decent margins in the 85-100 for Turn keys. I just hope that the prices don't go up too high as I'm not done buying there yet. Just saw a direct comp to one of my properties sell for 129,900 on Hopkins next to the new pizza place. Pretty good margins for a top end comp.

 Lombardoughs? Im super good friends with the owner, Kenny if so :) sorry off topic.

Post: First Purchase, realtor question

Nicholas ErneweinPosted
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Originally posted by @Mike Cumbie:

Hi @Nicholas Ernewein

Yes give her a call. If she does not work in the multi family investor space, I can pretty much guarantee she knows someone she can refer you over to. There are plenty of Multis in Buffalo.  Some owners don't put them on-line because they don't want to scare tenants, she will have access. 

Good Luck! 

 THAT MAKES SOOO MUCH SENSE, thank you so much!

Post: First Purchase, realtor question

Nicholas ErneweinPosted
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Originally posted by @Peter M.:

Yes ask your realtor friend. Why would she not disclose it to you? If you use her to buy a property she gets a commission check. There may just not be 4 plexes where you live. You could also look for duplexes and triplexes. 

Most cities zone the same way, think of this as a circle moving inward starting at the outside: industrial, commercial, retail, commercial multifamily (huge complexes), residential multifamily (4,3,2 units), single family residential neighborhoods. This creates buffer zones because people don't want to live next to a manufacturing plant. So drive around neighborhoods near bigger apartment complexes and you may start to see how the real estate shifts from a busy retail area gradually to houses. In between you will find the duplexes and 4 plexes. 

Okay, Ill ask her! I didn't know if I asked her and say I'm looking about 6 months away if she would say ask when the time comes closer. I don't know how far in advance people look ahead. I don't to make her think im wasting her time. But Ill also check around buffalo for those patterns, that's SUPER cool. Thanks!

Post: First Purchase, realtor question

Nicholas ErneweinPosted
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Hey guys, so I estimated I would be financially able to try to get an FHA loan for a 4Plex in my area in about 6 months ( again this is all a conspiracy, because I am so new to all of this, so I don't want to sound over optimistic or under, I'm somewhat lost even after reading so much ). I live in the Buffalo, Ny area and I've been looking around at every online website I know of to find different properties, then I go to CL compare the average renting costs in that area.

I completely take back my first sentence, I would like to mortgage 4plex in 6 months however I can't find ANY OF THEM IN MY AREA. I don't know the costs of something like that in my area and I've been consistently looking.

Question 1: Any tips on where to look for properties ext.

Question 2: I understand building a team around you is very important and a good way to find people is references. However I know a realtor I went to HS with, is it an uncommon practice or would she even entertain the idea of me asking her about the area and 4plex's? Is that like information they wouldn't disclose of good areas, and prices?

P.S I also apologize if none of this made any sense...

Holy snowflake batman, having possible renters like Kari Watts makes me really believe in not buying D-properties because of renters like him. Entitled little snowflakes. anyways tony, can I get some of that stew please?

Originally posted by @David Niles:

Welcome Nicholas, there are quite a few active members from Buffalo here so feel free to reach out to some of us.  

Pro poker player eh?  Pretty nice if you can make a living at it.  Catch you on the river.  :) 

 Appreciate the warm welcome, I've talked a to a few people already. Everyone is very nice, I'm planning on going to the meet-up in buffalo. I don't have much knowledge because I am just getting started off, but I want to learn and get out there. Maybe I can buy a round of beers :)

Also please don't call me down to the river with your gut shot straight please :( not very +EV