So, talking with some local lenders tonight they suggest a VA cash out refi. I'm waiting on the numbers back from one of them. However, they pointed out that using all of the HELOC as your down towards an investment property would negatively effect my credit. Meaning, exhausting the entire line would show a huge amount of revolving debt. This would make it harder to acquire other loans. Plus, you have the rate uncertainty to deal with when factoring in the net income form said property. So now I'm leaning back to the VA refi cash out because I know what my rate will be at and can easily determine my operating costs along with PITI in order to see if the deal is profitable. Furthermore, the HELOC may make it harder to get the new loan on the investment property. So I'm having the lenders determine what is the likelihood of me being able to roll the refi in to the new investment property loan all at once. Does that make sense? Plus, this particular lender does a 90% LTV on a Cash out VA refi whereas most HELOCS are at 80. Although I hope I don't have to use that much, there is that option.