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All Forum Posts by: Nicholas Bailey

Nicholas Bailey has started 7 posts and replied 26 times.

Originally posted by @Mike B.:

@Nicholas Bailey - curious about the hot water heaters.  I assume you want tankless to save space??  If not, you could use an electric water heater since it doesn't require venting (although would require a 2 poll, 30amp breaker in your panel).  Price wise (I'm unfamiliar but did a quick search on Home Depot's website) it looks like you would spend about the same, if not slightly more with Tankless. Unsure what maintenance/reliability is on those though, so I cannot comment.  I did run into a venting situation with a flip and thus, I installed an electric hot water heater so I didn't have to deal with the venting issues. 

 
Yes, to save space.  Currently a decent amount of space is unusable due to this mechanical closet that is just to contain the furnace and water tank if I'm getting rid of the furnace, I might as well get rid of the whole room and have more living space.  Also currently the building has seven bedrooms and three showers between all the units, and they all draw from the same tank, which can obviously be an issue.

My understanding is that tankless is slightly more expensive initially, uses appreciably less energy, but the gas costs are counterbalanced by the cost of routine maintenance, so it all costs about the same.

You can also get tankless electric, but I think that would require a decent amount of additional electric work.  Currently there's only one gas meter for the property, so I'm keeping that option open.

I'm currently getting quotes from contractors and general contractors.  I spoke with one guy that seemed very professional and respectable that offered to take a serious on-site look through my project and advise me for $500, prior to potentially putting together a plan and coming on as a general contractor.  I don't know if that's very abnormal, but I respect the idea of paying a real professional for their time.

We recently purchased a three-unit rental property.

We want to do some renovation work immediately, and plan to conduct more extensive renovations on the property over the coming years.

Currently, the water heater and the boiler furnace are located in an improperly ventilated portion of the garden unit. These need to be removed. We plan to replace with tankless water heaters and in-unit high-velocity small duct central heat and air (using electric baseboard for the garden unit heat), and also remove all the radiators from the building.

With the furnace and water heater removed, we would like to knock down the walls dividing the current furnace room, and make one larger rear, which is the bulk of the remodeling work to be done. don't not currently have drawings or architectural plans. I'm not imagining a drastic floorplan change. Currently the rear of the garden unit is divided up by walls to create a furnace room somewhat in the middle of it, and a second closet-type room to access the furnace room. I just want to open as much of that space up as possible after the removal of the furnace/heater and create the largest single room possible, or at the least combine the closet room and the furnace room into a finished room with a floor more comforting than the current bare concerete.


I'm expecting the HVAC/water heating to be a much more significant project, as there are a lot of questions I have that I cannot answer about whether I'd need to expand the gas service or electrical, whether I can run small-duct high-velocity in the ceiling easily or possibly along the ceiling inside the unit instead of in the walls, etc.

If possible, we also would like to install in-unit washers/dryers in the first and second floor units.

I don't know if any of the above would require expansion of the gas or electrical service to the building, or how I would go about setting that up. I'm approaching this whole project as a big learning opportunity, to develop a skill-set I can use for future projects.

I have a lot of fun plans for the garage of this property, which is huge, insulated, and has a bonus room, as well as a good structure for a garage-top deck.  That will come later though.  I'll update this as I go along.

We recently purchased a three-unit rental property.

We want to do some renovation work immediately, and plan to conduct more extensive renovations on the property over the coming years.

Currently, the water heater and the boiler furnace are located in an improperly ventilated portion of the garden unit. These need to be removed. We plan to replace with tankless water heaters and in-unit high-velocity small duct central heat and air (using electric baseboard for the garden unit heat), and also remove all the radiators from the building.

With the furnace and water heater removed, we would like to knock down the walls dividing the current furnace room, and make one larger rear, which is the bulk of the remodeling work to be done.  don't not currently have drawings or architectural plans. I'm not imagining a drastic floorplan change. Currently the rear of the garden unit is divided up by walls to create a furnace room somewhat in the middle of it, and a second closet-type room to access the furnace room. I just want to open as much of that space up as possible after the removal of the furnace/heater and create the largest single room possible, or at the least combine the closet room and the furnace room into a finished room with a floor more comforting than the current bare concerete. 


I'm expecting the HVAC/water heating to be a much more significant project, as there are a lot of questions I have that I cannot answer about whether I'd need to expand the gas service or electrical, whether I can run small-duct high-velocity in the ceiling easily or possibly along the ceiling inside the unit instead of in the walls, etc.

If possible, we also would like to install in-unit washers/dryers in the first and second floor units.

I don't know if any of the above would require expansion of the gas or electrical service to the building, or how I would go about setting that up.  I'm also generally curious about people's experience with high-velocity air systems and tankless water heaters in Chicago.

Post: Eviction attorney in Chicago

Nicholas BaileyPosted
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 12

Michael Griffin in Sanford Kahn's office or Yuly Joa in Cary Schiff's office are my recommendations.  Mike is leaving the area soon though, not sure if he's taking on new work.

Post: Opinions on Coach Houses?

Nicholas BaileyPosted
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 12
Thank you very much for your insight!  Looks like this is one of those cases where my "gut instinct/common sense" was absolutely wrong, so it's good to hear from someone that's actually walking the walk!

Originally posted by @Lumi Ispas:

@Nicholas Bailey , coach houses are a plus in Chicago. I sold a 3 flat + coach house about a year ago in Logan Square where the coach house alone was bringing $2600 a month in income. That is a $30,000 in income per year, more than a lot of 2 flats in the city. I have another building with coach house under contract now where the coach house has two units and the income is $2700 a month and all separate utilities. I love these types of deals and I look for them purposefully!  Imagine another $32,400 in income per year and my client is just paying the water and common electric for that coach house.

While the city doesn't allow you to build new coach houses, it allows you to renovate them!

Look at the income that home will give you! Usually, to have that home under the same PIN number and mortgage as the front building, it is very rarely not profitable.

Good luck to you!

Post: Opinions on Coach Houses?

Nicholas BaileyPosted
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 12

I've heard in Chicago that if your coach house isn't grandfathered in you can't just build a new one.

From the properties I've seen advertised, in several instances the coach house is the nicest unit on the property and is set up for the owner.

Post: Chicago Landlord Class?

Nicholas BaileyPosted
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 12

Make sure to familiarize yourself with local landlord-tenant laws!  They can be strict.

Post: Opinions on Coach Houses?

Nicholas BaileyPosted
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 12

Thank you very much for the replies.

I guess I was comparing a 3 flat under one roof with a 2 flat with a coach house (i.e. 2 roofs, 2 foundations, 8 exterior walls etc) so I was thinking it'd be significantly more expensive to maintain.

Post: Opinions on Coach Houses?

Nicholas BaileyPosted
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 12

In Chicago it's common for multi-family buildings to have a coach house behind the main building, which 120 years ago was legitimately for storing your horses and carriage, but now has been converted to an additional unit (sometimes very nice).

I worry that this basically brings me twice the expenses/maintenance. Two roofs, two heating/cooling systems, etc, with only one additional unit's rent to cover the expense. I'm curious if anyone here has experience owning/managing a property with a coach house, and what it did for your expenses.