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All Forum Posts by: Nathan Hui

Nathan Hui has started 16 posts and replied 106 times.

Post: BRRR + House Hack + FHA

Nathan HuiPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Rome, GA
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 34

@Donald Bondi I did a little reading on the Homestyle and it is 15% down and it is only eligible for single family.

Post: Are there any investors who started in 06-07?

Nathan HuiPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Rome, GA
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 34

@Will Gaston I love it. I am assuming it is only now that you are finally appreciating. Are you looking to sell now or are they actually making you money?

Post: Are there any investors who started in 06-07?

Nathan HuiPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Rome, GA
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 34

@Joe Splitrock That is very practical advice. I am glad I actually found an investor who was buying properties in 06. I guess with loans being so easy to acquire the rental market was probably taking a hit overall. It makes sense demand increased once it became more challenging to buy homes.

Post: BRRR + House Hack + FHA

Nathan HuiPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Rome, GA
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 34

@Donald Bondi I didn’t even know this existed. I need to talk to my lender about this. When you say “better credentials” do you mean better credit? Thanks for the alternative solution.

Post: BRRR + House Hack + FHA

Nathan HuiPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Rome, GA
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 34
Originally posted by @Brooks Rembert:

Hi @Nathan Hui, I'd look more closely at using any hard money with an FHA loan. With FHA, you're required to live in the house for at least a year and I don't believe you can't refi within that time either.

Have you looked into an FHA 203(k) loan? You can roll your reno costs into the loan.

203k would likely have too many moving parts. There are tenants that have lease contracts terminating at different times. I think moving all of them could be complicated. I will have to look at their lease contracts which I have not gotten my hands on yet. 

I do think 203k would be ideal because I could build the renovations into the loan, which is basically what a hard money refi would do except I could keep the low money and low interest. 

Post: How to determine value on 4 plex for newbie investor

Nathan HuiPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Rome, GA
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 34

@Matt Lenzi

$90,000/year = $7500/month

The 1% rule would be to purchase the home for $750000. Or $9500/month rental income.

A Morgage for $950000 with a 4% interest rate with 20% down is $3628.36

The 50% rule is = (Income x 0.5) - Principle & Interest

$7500 x 0.5 - $3628.36 = $121.64 Cash Flow

In my area, the 1% rule is a minimum and the 50% rule is conservative. But the quad I am looking at is 200k bringing in $2100. You will need to think about whether $3750 is realistic for expenses. Maybe that’s way too high. Also, you should probably consult with someone in your area.

Post: Are there any investors who started in 06-07?

Nathan HuiPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Rome, GA
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 34
Originally posted by @Russell Brazil:
Originally posted by @Nathan Hui:
Originally posted by @Mike Dymski:

I started in 2004.  I bought in good locations and my rents actually went up a little in the last recession.  Real estate is very local.

All economic recessions are different though.  The last one was accompanied by a housing crisis, which buoyed the rental market in many areas (continues to this day).  That may not happen with the next recession.

I am surprised your rental income increased. I can't make sense of that. But it is somewhat reassuring that rental rates can remain isolated from economic downturns. 

 Rents in the DC area skyrocketed during the last recession. They strengthened in many places. Suddenly people who wlhad been homeowners became renters, creating more demand for rental units. But of course all real estate is local. There are other places rents just went to zero because there wasnt enough renters to fill available units.

This is definitely contrary to what I was thinking. Others also are echoing the same thing...

https://www.biggerpockets.com/...
 

Post: Are there any investors who started in 06-07?

Nathan HuiPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Rome, GA
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 34
Originally posted by @Russell Brazil:

I flipped my first property in 2003. I bought my first buy and hold in 2009.

Arguably, those were solid times to do those things...

Post: Are there any investors who started in 06-07?

Nathan HuiPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Rome, GA
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 34
Originally posted by @Mike Dymski:

I started in 2004.  I bought in good locations and my rents actually went up a little in the last recession.  Real estate is very local.

All economic recessions are different though.  The last one was accompanied by a housing crisis, which buoyed the rental market in many areas (continues to this day).  That may not happen with the next recession.

I am surprised your rental income increased. I can't make sense of that. But it is somewhat reassuring that rental rates can remain isolated from economic downturns. 

Post: Are there any investors who started in 06-07?

Nathan HuiPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Rome, GA
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 34

Please do. Your profile says that you purchased a home in 07 and it is cash flowing more than $4000. Is that annual CF? I guess you qualify for starting in 07. How did it go? Can you share your own experience?