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All Forum Posts by: Nate Gelinas

Nate Gelinas has started 4 posts and replied 36 times.

Post: How would you structure this deal???

Nate GelinasPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Las Vegas
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 9

Buy with a sub2, then lease option it to a retail buyer with poor credit. You can charge slightly above market rental rates, up the selling price by ~10% for your risk, and get a ~5% option fee upfront. Thats how I would approach it at least.

Post: Is a RE license necessary??

Nate GelinasPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Las Vegas
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 9

Since you are in GA as well, can you expand on the disclosure requirements a bit? Are you required to disclose when you market, or simply once you begin discussions with a potential seller?

Post: Is a RE license necessary??

Nate GelinasPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Las Vegas
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 9

J Scott, I just read your article, great info!

Few questions on it though. Do you by any chance know which agencies will allow you to be a passive agent (ie, just have the license and pay the fees for MLS access)?

Also I know you mentioned it briefly, but do you ever have issues with sellers backing out due to you being licensed? Or is it typically more of a qualification than a deterrent?

Thanks!

Post: Structuring an owner financed deal

Nate GelinasPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Las Vegas
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 9

Thanks for all the sound replies everyone. I am leaving to look at the property in about an hour, I will update with details afterwords.

Post: LLC Names,

Nate GelinasPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Las Vegas
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 9

1. Go to your states secretary of state website and look around. Most have a database of sorts that can be searched. (for reference, here is GA http://corp.sos.state.ga.us/corp/soskb/csearch.asp?dtm=585844907407407)
2. I just based mine off an area I liked.
3. It really does not matter too much. Its personal preference, but if you plan on doing big things with the company then keep it professional.
4. Preference again. I dont use commas in mine.

Post: First Time Investor Looking for Advice

Nate GelinasPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Las Vegas
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 9
Originally posted by Michael O.:
Originally posted by Nate Gelinas:
Originally posted by Michael O.:
Originally posted by Scott W.:
ignore the 2% rule. that's for very very small properties. just pay attention to the 50% rule (40% if you don't hir a property manager).

I was going to self manage the property - in that case it would be $3100 rent - $1240 (40%) - $1368 (mort pmt) = $492/mo x 12 = $5904

$5904 / $75000 = 7.8%

Does that make more sense?

Also, do you ever factor total return (e.g. include principal paydown, property appreciation, depreciation benefit) in evaluating total return?

I know that this would represent a combination of cash/non-cash returns, but in a scenario like this should if be considered if i am earning an estimated 7.8% cash on cash?

One final question, given that this property is zoned for three units - is there any back of the envelope method of estimating the cost of adding an additional unit?

7.8% CoC seems really low. For example one property I am looking at right now is estimated to be 15% on the extreme low end, and 33% on the higher end.

Does the CoC return vary by location through?

Ya of course, but if you are content with that kind of return, then there are alot easier ways to do so without dealing with the hassle of acquiring real estate. Someone with a bit more experience may correct me if I am wrong, but that does not seem like much of a good deal at all. Your NOI using your estimated expenses would be ~22k, leaving you at a cap rate of not even 6%.

Post: First Time Investor Looking for Advice

Nate GelinasPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Las Vegas
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 9
Originally posted by Michael O.:
Originally posted by Scott W.:
ignore the 2% rule. that's for very very small properties. just pay attention to the 50% rule (40% if you don't hir a property manager).

I was going to self manage the property - in that case it would be $3100 rent - $1240 (40%) - $1368 (mort pmt) = $492/mo x 12 = $5904

$5904 / $75000 = 7.8%

Does that make more sense?

Also, do you ever factor total return (e.g. include principal paydown, property appreciation, depreciation benefit) in evaluating total return?

I know that this would represent a combination of cash/non-cash returns, but in a scenario like this should if be considered if i am earning an estimated 7.8% cash on cash?

One final question, given that this property is zoned for three units - is there any back of the envelope method of estimating the cost of adding an additional unit?

7.8% CoC seems really low. For example one property I am looking at right now is estimated to be 15% on the extreme low end, and 33% on the higher end.

Post: First Time Investor Looking for Advice

Nate GelinasPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Las Vegas
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 9
Originally posted by Keith Lutz:
Scott W., Would the 2% rule mean the following.

If he is paying $375,000 x .02 = $7,500 is what the rent should be collecting?

That seems excessive!

Ya thats correct Keith. And it is not really a "rule" per say, so much as a guideline. There are properties out there that meet it though ;)

Post: Strange Question...

Nate GelinasPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Las Vegas
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 9

Mitch Kronowit, you almost make it sound too easy! What did you do before REI if you don't mind my asking?

Jacob Whitish, my primary issue is time. Being in the army is a bit taxing on the free time. Hoping to be able to do REI full time after a few more years in the military. Btw, I used to live in WA. Bellingham is a beautiful place!

Post: Structuring an owner financed deal

Nate GelinasPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Las Vegas
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 9

Dale: although I am by no means an expert on recent real estate law changes, I have heard the "SAFE act" tossed around alot lately and how it affects creative financing deals. As such I was hoping to get something a little more recent which takes that into account. I will give that book a go after my current read though ;)

Reason I am asking is because I have what I estimate to be a pretty good offer on a 12 unit property that the seller is willing to finance. I am just looking to get the right information on how I can structure it favorably and don't want to mess anything up.