Hi @Tim Soto,
Thanks for the response! The appointment went fine. I wasn't nervous at all, and we built rapport throughout the appointment, but I was a little bit surprised by the state of the property after he had described it as close to turn-key. The property was occupied with some 'questionable'tenants. I went at noon time. All the tenants were home with the shades pulled shut, the two apartments on the first floor smelled of cigarettes and were rather messy. One of them had people sleeping in it, so I was only able to peek into one of the bedrooms. The second floor apartment was larger, but kept very messy; i.e. pet hair everywhere, spilled food, and the very heavy scent of unwashed clothing/bedding and cat spray (the tenants had 3+ cats in there). The third unit was kept a little bit better than the other two, but slightly cluttered. The hallway spaces and throughout a few of the apartments were floored with cracked tiles (not ceramic tiles but like the type they use in Walmart). The owner said the cracks were because he didn't lay underlayment because he thought the subfloor would be fine, but the imperfections in the subfloor caused the tile to crack. There was dirt and clutter throughout the building, and all 4 of the apartments needed some updating/repairing. The gentleman kept showing me the "new" plumbing he had put in, which ran rather callously through various areas of the house (not boxed in or neat looking). It just came across as very shoddy - rather than having stickers or nice little plaques to label the apartment numbers on the doors, they were drawn on with permanent marker...
Long story short, it was good experience, but I am still trying to figure out the best course of action. He mentioned he may let me list the property for him, but I don't feel he would get the amount he is looking for and would hate to waste both his time and my own especially since the property is about 25 minutes away from my home.
The comparable sales of 4 Family properties in Gardner are going up and down like a heart monitor from year to year. Every other year since 2008 they've sold for around 60K, then the next year up to about $109K, then back down in the 60's. According the the pattern, 2015 is in a '109'-type year, but it is very hard for me to tell realistically what the property is valued at, especially with all the work that would need to be done to make it presentable, and the effort of putting some different tenants in there. (I am slowly working on familiarizing myself with rehab and updating costs).
Being one of my first deals, I am not looking to hold the property for too long or take on another landlord project, but rather flip the deal to another investor or retail it. Not sure this is the ideal property to do that unless I could get it for a really good cash price with a buffer for the work that needed to be done. But where he is asking 160K, I think he is being very unrealistic with his price. I don't think it would be worth it to list the property, or buy this early in my career, but I do believe it was a good experience!
Also, being a newbie, I may very well be missing something here too, so suggestions are always welcome and appreciated!
Thanks,
Mike