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All Forum Posts by: Dennis S. Gelbart

Dennis S. Gelbart has started 13 posts and replied 65 times.

Post: Invelo software has anyone used it and what are results

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Inveloapp.com

Has anyone tried this software for finding 2-6 flats and how is it for skip tracing?

Thanks 

Dennis 

Post: Deal Sauce Skip Tracking and property evaluation

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Has anyone used DealSauce and what has been your experience as far as accuracy and information provided? Was it helpful? Did you find properties? We are interested in 2-6 doors on a property to start. Potential for single family also and larger multifamily.

Thanks for your input.

Dennis 

Post: Best Skip Tracking Software

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Quote from @Jeff Pasmore:

Dennis,

Yeah, we’ve been deep in the skip tracing game for a while. My son and I used to do tax deed and mortgage foreclosure recovery, and we were running through over 1,000 traces a month. We tested a bunch of paid services and, honestly, found that some of the free ones like TruePeopleSearch and FastPeopleSearch were just as good for most cases.

Now, I’m not saying you can’t find a better paid option, but you have to ask yourself what you’re really paying for. If you need volume and speed, automation is key. My son Jack actually just wrote a Google Sheets script two days ago that skip traces 997 people in under 4 minutes. If you're doing high-volume targeting in a specific area, something custom like that could be a game-changer.

But if you want an off-the-shelf paid service, it depends on what you're prioritizing batch processing, accuracy, or deep data pulls. What’s your main use case?


 Jeff,

Thanks for the great detailed answer. I am confused now but will sit down and write my alternatives. seems like worth a try on my own before throwing money at services like Deal sauce or prop Stream (sponsored by BP)

thanks, Bottom line. If you had one service free or for a fee, what would you use? We are very focus in a certain neighborhood. Know the addresses. We want to know who the owner is and how to get in touch with them. 

thanks again

dennis 

Post: Best Skip Tracking Software

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Thanks Chris I will look at idicore.

Have you heard anything about Propstream via BP or DealSauce?

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

Dennis 

Post: Best Skip Tracking Software

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Quote from @Jeff Pasmore:

Dennis,

Yeah, we’ve been deep in the skip tracing game for a while. My son and I used to do tax deed and mortgage foreclosure recovery, and we were running through over 1,000 traces a month. We tested a bunch of paid services and, honestly, found that some of the free ones like TruePeopleSearch and FastPeopleSearch were just as good for most cases.

Now, I’m not saying you can’t find a better paid option, but you have to ask yourself what you’re really paying for. If you need volume and speed, automation is key. My son Jack actually just wrote a Google Sheets script two days ago that skip traces 997 people in under 4 minutes. If you're doing high-volume targeting in a specific area, something custom like that could be a game-changer.

But if you want an off-the-shelf paid service, it depends on what you're prioritizing batch processing, accuracy, or deep data pulls. What’s your main use case?

Thanks for commenting and the reply: Great questions. We are targeting two specific towns for multi-family buildings of 2-8 units with the goal of reaching the owners. Small volume and focused search. Our goal is to find out who owns the property, for how long, how much is left on the mortgage and see if we can call or mail them to see if we can buy the property. Preferably owner financed. 
What have you heard about DealSauce by Pace Worby or Propstream? I think you get a free subscription for a while from BP for propstream. Any ideas? I greatly appreciate the detail you wrote. I will take your advice.
Thank you.

Post: Best Skip Tracking Software

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We are focusing on a very specific area to buy and hold multi-family rental properties. Size is from a Duplex - 23 units. 

What have been your experiences with Skip tracking software.... which do you feel has the best features for the most value for the money?

Thanks. We have no problem paying but want to see value. 

Post: $5.3M to use but 0 experience. Advice...?

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Quote from @Marcus Auerbach:

It's pretty dangerous to start RE with money in your pocket. It makes you move faster than your learning curve.

RE is a great long term investment done right, but it takes time to learn the craft. I am a learning-it-from-the-ground-up guy.  Like swimming, you can't  really learn it ALL from a book, a lot of it is street smarts and hands-on experience. 

I would say it takes about 10 deals to graduate from rookie status. Ideally you handle acquisition, bank financing, all of the rehab (with contractors) and self manage for full first hand experience. 

This should not take that much money, keep the rest invested based on your existing experience until ready.


 Well Said Marcus.!!!

Post: $5.3M to use but 0 experience. Advice...?

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Do not blow your money quickly. Slowly slowly. Review all deals. Speak to other investors. Get three different opinions minimum. Orlando and Fl. In general are very tough. Start out very small and acquire a single family home or duplex. Not for cash. Put some credit in the deal to build YOUR credit.  SPeak to your banker, Call mortgage brokers. Be careful to tell them you have SOME money  but not millions.

 The BP analysis calculator is a good way to start and learn. If you would like to talk (do not worry I will NOT ask for money) 

Contact me if interested. If this is a fake... Its sounds good. If not. Good luck 

Post: Can we qualify for a loan ?

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Quote from @Cayden Standlee:

Here is what the terms are: 



FHA loan rules allow non-occupying co-borrowers and FHA home loan transactions are approved for such cases but there are down payment requirements that may apply above and beyond the FHA minimum of 3.5%.

If you are applying for a loan with a co-borrower who will not occupy the home with you AND is NOT a family member, the maximum loan-to-value ratio for the loan is 75% of the adjusted value of the home, which means your down payment requirement is 25%.

This does NOT apply for family members in certain cases. FHA loan rules in HUD 4000.1 state, "For Non-Occupying Borrower Transactions, the maximum LTV is 75 percent.

The LTV can be increased to a maximum of 96.5 percent if the Borrowers are Family Members” according to HUD 4000.1 IF the transaction does NOT involve a family member selling the home to another member of the family who will be a non-occupying co-Borrower. The number of units in the property may also be an issue.

Hope this helps!


This is a good explanation, but it really depends on the credit scores of you and the Milwaukee partner. FYI... I was up in Milwaukee 10 days ago looking. You also may want to find a bank in the area of Milwaukee.  I live about an hour and 15 minutes away. Maybe I can help you... ( I am not looking for any many or payback.) Dennis Gelbart 

Post: Is this a Deal or No Deal

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my guess is 6k per month????