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All Forum Posts by: Tom Goans

Tom Goans has started 30 posts and replied 951 times.

Post: Seeking an investment property Mentor

Tom GoansPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Englewood, CO
  • Posts 988
  • Votes 258

@Cherise Martin,

Go to work for one. Get paid while you learn at no risk.

Later, you have met a potential investment partner to get you started.

Post: Scott Carson 'Note Buying for Dummies'

Tom GoansPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Englewood, CO
  • Posts 988
  • Votes 258

This old seasoned investor who has been buying and selling loans secured by real estate since the 1960s suggests avoiding this segment of real estate investing unless you have decades of experience. This form of investing is only for those who are very skillful in the real estate business and have great knowledge of the laws - federal and state.

  • You must strictly follow many laws. Just the way you communicate with a borrower is governed by laws.
  • Foreclosure is complicated and a long and costly process.
  • Real estate finance is very complex.
  • Reliable valuations cannot be derived from the Internet.
  • Finance laws are very complex. They must be known and understood.
  • The documentation that should be used can be complex.
  • Guessing is a great way to get into trouble.
  • There are many ways to invest in real estate finance. Do you know them?
  • Knowing how to collect money is critical. It goes far beyond demanding for a payment.

It is a great idea to learn the finance business. It will help you with most aspects of the real estate business and give you a better edge and advantage. The more you learn, the more you experience, the more you hear, the better your communication skills ... this will lead you to a better chance of making the finance business profitable and safe.

I would suggest you consider this investment segment at a later time. It will always be around and so will the opportunities.

Post: new tenant - old pm - can I change rental agreement w/ tenant

Tom GoansPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Englewood, CO
  • Posts 988
  • Votes 258

@Kelly G.,

Please Seek Legal Professional Advice

Legally, legal advice can only be provided by a licensed attorney in the state where the property is located. You should only consider legal advice that is provided by an attorney you hire.

  • Any other legal advice is ILLEGAL and may be very incorrect.

Seeking advice from an attorney in the area where the property is located can be a wise and very economical decision considering the alternative. An attorney will assure you are abiding by the federal and state laws. Every state has unique laws. The attorney will also provide the best advice and options for your specific needs with a consideration for your future. The results will be legally drawn up agreements for your use.

Post: Partnership %?

Tom GoansPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Englewood, CO
  • Posts 988
  • Votes 258

@Andrew Wu,

Every investor is unique with unique standards for investing. Moreover, every investment consideration is unique and requires independent consideration. It also depends upon what you bring to the table.

In most cases, if I am 100 percent funding the investment opportunity, I would probably not accept less than 95 percent of the partnership on a deal by deal basis.

It appears by your post, you bring very little to the partnership and investment. It would appear the mentor brings both money and experience. Thus, would expect more in return.

As for negotiation with the mentor, a rule I use is the first one to mention a number lost the negotiation. Let the mentor suggest what is acceptable as a percentage of the partnership and the terms. Just do not get greedy.

Caution: I would use this negotiating tactic to learn more about you. What you want as your piece of the pie would be very telling to me and influence my interests in considering being your partner in the future.

  • Always remember, he who has the gold rules.
  • Additionally, he who has the gold probably has the connections you need.

Post: Am I setting myself up for success or failure?

Tom GoansPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Englewood, CO
  • Posts 988
  • Votes 258

@Francisco B.,

There are many great things about your consideration.

However, at the risk of raining on your parade, based upon my experience, I see many major problems with your business plan.

From your post, it appears you are not very confident in the project. You may want to go with your gut feeling on this one.

I am a firm believer each investment should support itself, even during the challenging times. From what you stated, it would appear you will be feeding this investment because it is a negative cash flow.

I may have misread or understood.

If you are feeding the investment, or if the cash flow potential is so marginal, you may want to reconsider the investment.

Sleep well at night and have less stress in your life. A good goal is having investments that are good positive cash flow producers and will support themselves. Moreover, they will provide you with a profit and positive cash flow so that you can enjoy life and invest more.

One thought on a negative cash flow investment, when a lender reviews your P&L and financial history, it may be more difficult in the future to borrow money or deal with investors because of a negative business history. I would suggest trying to build a very positive business and decision making history that reflects positively on your decisions and skills.

Best of luck with your investment endeavors.

Post: College Student Looking to Invest

Tom GoansPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Englewood, CO
  • Posts 988
  • Votes 258

@Greg Merrill,

Your post does not provide me with enough background information. You may enjoy reading the book "Think and Grow Rich".

More importantly, the best person to ask may be your father. He knows you, your history, your desires, and your goals. He may offer the best ideas.

Good luck.

Post: Carrying the note

Tom GoansPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Englewood, CO
  • Posts 988
  • Votes 258

@Justin Glass,

I never recommend loans with balloon payments for either party for numerous reasons.

K.I.S.S. I recommend not making a simple process complex, especially for the borrower/buyer - unless you are hoping to get the land back for future resale.

Have you researched the Texas redemption laws regarding seller financing? You may want to consider using a lease with option to buy agreement instead of note and deed of trust. A Texas real estate attorney will be able to give you the pros and cons.

I am a third generation real estate financier with almost 50 years of personal experience. This includes buying loans from institutional lenders.

Post: Communicating via text

Tom GoansPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Englewood, CO
  • Posts 988
  • Votes 258

@Dacia Bell,

I always defined my communication options with tenants and borrowers by first taking into consideration what is acceptable and admissible in a court of law in the jurisdiction where the property is located.

Next consideration, many times state and local laws have defined rules for legally communicating with tenants and borrowers.

I always communicate within what is acceptable by law so that should a problem later arise - and it could be years from now - every communication is within the law.

I also require all communication be in written form. Thus, email is my primary form of communication - fast, easy, and time-stamped and dated.

Post: Do you really need to pay earnest money or can you assign the contract without it?

Tom GoansPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Englewood, CO
  • Posts 988
  • Votes 258

Elements of a Legally Binding Contract

An agreement/contract must contain essential elements to be regarded as a contract. If any one of them is missing, the agreement will not be legally binding.

Moreover, the parties to a legally binding contract must be considered "competent persons" having legal capacity who exchange "consideration" to create "mutuality of obligation".

Offer

There must be a definite, clearly stated offer to do something. For example: A quotation by sub-contractor to the main contractor and an offer to lease.

An offer does not include ballpark estimates, requests for proposals, expressions of interest, or letters of intent.

An offer will lapse:

  • when the time for acceptance expires;
  • if theoffer is withdrawn before it is accepted; or
  • after a reasonable time inthe circumstances (generally the greater the value of the contract, thelonger the life of the offer).

Acceptance

Only what is offered can be accepted. This means that the offer must be accepted exactly as offered without conditions. If any new terms are suggested this is regarded as a counter offer which can be accepted or rejected.

There can be many offers and counter offers before there is an agreement. It is not important who makes the final offer, it is the acceptance of that offer that brings the negotiations to an end by establishing the terms and conditions of the contract.

Acceptance can be given verbally, in writing, or inferred by action, which clearly indicates acceptance (performance of the contract). In any case, the acceptance must conform to the method prescribed by the one who made the offer for it to be effective.

Intention of Legal Consequences

A contract requires that the parties intend to enter into a legally binding agreement. That is, the parties entering into the contract must intend to create legal relations and must understand that the agreement can be enforced by law.

The intention to create legal relations is presumed, so the contract does not have to expressly state that you understand and intend legal consequences to follow.

If the parties to a contract decide not to be legally bound, this must be clearly stated in the contract for it not to be legally enforceable.

Consideration

In order for a contract to be binding, it must be supported by valuable consideration. That is to say, one party promises to do something in return for a promise from the other party to provide a benefit of value (the consideration).

Consideration is what each party gives to the other as the agreed price for the other's promises. Usually the consideration is the payment of money but it need not be; it can be anything of value including the promise not to do something, or to refrain from exercising some right.

The payment does not need to be a fair payment. The courts will not intervene where one party has made a hard bargain unless fraud, duress, or unconscionable conduct is involved.

Formation

In addition to the elements of a contract:

  • A party must have capacity to contract
  • The purpose of the contract must be lawful
  • The form of the contract must be legal
  • The parties must intend to create a legal relationship
  • The parties must consent

As a result, there are a variety of affirmative defenses that a party may assert to avoid his obligation.

Contracts May Be Bilateral or Unilateral

A bilateral contract is an agreement in which each of the parties to the contract makes a promise or set of promises to each other. For example, in a contract for the sale of a home, the buyer promises to pay the seller $200,000 in exchange for the seller's promise to deliver title to the property. These common contracts take place in the daily flow of commerce transactions, and in cases with sophisticated or expensive promises may involve extensive negotiation and various condition precedent requirements, which are requirements that must be met for the contract to be fulfilled.

Less common are unilateral contracts in which one party makes a promise, but the other side does not promise anything. In these cases, those accepting the offer are not required to communicate their acceptance to the offeror. In a reward contract, for example, a person who has lost a dog could promise a reward if the dog is found, through publication or orally. The payment could be additionally conditioned on the dog being returned alive. Those who learn of the reward are not required to search for the dog, but if someone finds the dog and delivers it, the promisor is required to pay. In the similar case of advertisements of deals or bargains, a general rule is that these are not contractual offers but merely an "invitation to treat" (or bargain), but the applicability of this rule is disputed and contains various exceptions.

In certain circumstances, an implied contract may be created. A contract is implied in fact if the circumstances imply that parties have reached an agreement even though they have not done so expressly. For example, a patient may implicitly enter a contract by visiting a doctor and being examined; if the patient refuses to pay after being examined, the patient has breached a contract implied in fact. A contract which is implied in law is also called a quasi-contract, because it is not in fact a contract; rather, it is a means for the courts to remedy situations in which one party would be unjustly enriched were he or she not required to compensate the other. Quantum meruit claims are an example.

Post: Question about arm's length transaction

Tom GoansPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Englewood, CO
  • Posts 988
  • Votes 258

@Jane George,

I do not have a thorough understanding of Texas law as related to tax liens. However, it is my guess there is not a legal issue concerning a relative buying the property.

However, of important consideration, will the relative have issues with other family members. This type of stuff can destroy family relationships for generations.

Sometimes it is wiser to pass on an opportunity to possibly make money over family considerations. Both can be avoidable gambles.

One thought, check to make sure there are not federal liens of record. Free and clear, especially with regards to properties with tax liens, is not always a correct statement.