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All Forum Posts by: Mohammad Haidarasl

Mohammad Haidarasl has started 24 posts and replied 114 times.

Post: Pay off student loans versus invest in real estate?

Mohammad HaidaraslPosted
  • San Antonio, TX
  • Posts 118
  • Votes 35

I'm back on BP after a long break. I have a lot of federal student loans (sigh) that is currently sitting around 200 grand. I do want to invest in real estate but with such debt, I'm unsure if it's smarter to get started or just aggressively pay off debt and think about real estate in the future. Any guidance/insight would be appreciated. Thanks!

Edit: Just realized I had asked this question years ago. Still would love further insight to see whether or not the advice still stands or if anybody has any further input. Thanks!

Originally posted by @Theresa Harris:

@Mohammad Haidarasl  Not knowing how much your debt is, the interest rates and payment along with your income, makes it hard to give advice.  Generally speaking, your interest on your student loans will be lower and as long as you can save for a rental, you can then use the extra income from the rental to service your debt.

Hi Theresa, thank you for your reply. I'm currently making minimum wage and this is the debt that I have (long story):

Originally posted by @Brock Mogensen:

Get into REI first, but make sure to learn the in's and out's before making your first investment. Lock in the longest term for your student loans as possible.

Thank you for your help Brock, I am going to take your advice!

Originally posted by @Ben Raygor:

@Mohammad Haidarasl if you have multiple separate loans (with different loan amounts outstanding and interest rates), consider picking some to pay off completely to help free up your Debt-to-Income ratio a bit. This will come in handy if you need to speak to a lender about a rental property in the near future.

Freeing up those fixed monthly minimum debt payments can be a big deal to a lender as well as to yourself for cash-flow and flexibility reasons.

Thank you for your feedback Ben. I think it'll take me a while to get into REI since I have a huge debt to pay off with hardly any income at the moment (minimum wage). This is what I'm currently working with:

Originally posted by @Timothy Lewman:

@Mohammad Haidarasl not counting the potential investment income, can you make the payments with your current cashflow? If so I would invest you cash pile. If not, look at refinancing it to a lower rate and see if you put down some money if the payment will be more manageable.

To be honest, I wouldn't be able to. Not until I secure a better position. This is what I'm currently working with and am making minimum wage (long story):

Originally posted by @Anthony Gayden:
Originally posted by @Mohammad Haidarasl:

I have quite a huge student loan debt, which is the only type of debt I have. I would like to get into REI immediately but like to know the smartest move to make.

 This would be easier to answer if we know how much student debt you have and how much you earn? There is a huge difference between you owing $18,000 and $300,000.

If you owe $18,000 and make $100,000/yr, then I suggest you pay it off as soon as possible. Postpone investing until after you are finished. If you owe $300,000 and make $20,000 then I suggest you put off investing or paying the loan down until after you can greatly increase your income.

Hey Anthony, thank you very much for taking the time to reply to my post, I really appreciate it. Sadly, this is what I'm currently working with:

Originally posted by @Chris Gouveia:

Now is a great time to refinance your debt- I was able to lower my 6 figure debt to 3%, which has allowed quite a bit of freedom to look at other investment opportunities.

I know the scenarios given are often "but you could make 8%+ with that money!" Having been in BIGGER student debt than now, sometimes there's a mental victory from not feeling that weight. You have to decide how important that is to your happiness. Also, that's a guaranteed return of (insert interest rate here) v. investing which has risk in the best of circumstances. Lastly, if you need to take out a loan to REI, often your debts are incorporated in that decision and may disqualify you.

Make sure your earning potential is maximized, your other debts (credit card, etc.) are definitely taken care of, and then weigh the pros/cons. Best of luck!

Thank you for your feedback Chris. I'm in a lot of SLD, so I'm not sure how long it'll take me to pay it off, but I assume it'll take years. This is what I'm currently working with:

Originally posted by @Nathaniel Hovsepian:

@Mohammad Haidarasl I would echo what @Adam Parker said here. 

Let's say that you were paying 5% interest on your student loan debt.

Well, if you had the capital, and you could put it into an investment that was going to get you 8% do you think that would be a good idea?

It isn't quite as simple as this, but you would essentially be netting that 3% difference. 

Yes, it is great to get debt off of your books and out of your head, but if you can put your capital to work for you instead and get a better return then that's the better option. 

Hey Nathaniel, thank you for your reply to my post. I have varying rates and am quite inexperienced in REI, but this is currently what I'm working with:

Originally posted by @Adam Parker:

@Mohammad Haidarasl what kind of rates on your debt ? I think depending on what rates you can get on a mortgage that could be a better thing to paying down all the debt

 Hi Adam, thank you for replying to my post! Sadly, this is what I'm currently working with:

Originally posted by @Stephen Keighery:

I would start investing now. Getting financing is a big part of real estate investing so using cash to pay off that debt at this point of your real estate journey will make the journey slower.

 Thank you Stephen, this makes a lot of sense and is something that I've always thought about but wasn't sure about.