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All Forum Posts by: John Woodrich

John Woodrich has started 19 posts and replied 1761 times.

Post: What is a reasonable cost for a CPA?

John Woodrich
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I would estimate between $1500-$2,500 (annual fee) depending on how organized you are and what all you actually have going on.  This could be a little more if you are expecting them to handle payroll for you also.  This would probably include individual tax prep, S-Corp tax prep, possible tax planning in the fall and general questions that come up during the year.  Nobody can really give an estimate until they see your returns and from there we often make a leap of faith hoping that your accounting is in order.

There isn't an apples to apples comparison here as some CPAs only prepare a return and dissapear until the next year while others are around to answer questions, complete tax planning for your S-Corp, and offer more of an all inclusive service.  You also have to make sure you are using a CPA, I have probably seen a hundred returns prepared by a "CPA" who wasn't a CPA.  In tax ANYONE can get registered with the IRS to prepare returns for compensation and their is no licensing criteria.

Our industry is severely understaffed so you may be talking to a company who gave you a high rate as a "We aren't interested but for this price, we will make room".  Kinda like the contractor who gave you the crazy bid, probably didn't want the job.  I don't know any CPAs who are actively searching for clients and every firm I know would love to hire another experienced CPA.  They are modifying the CPA exam again as the younger generation is not as interested in the commitment it takes to become a CPA and the industry is likely losing more CPAs each year than it is gaining.

Interested who the Mpls company was that you talked to, could you message me?  Curious if I know them or if it is my old firm.

Post: Duel Residency to Avoid STR Regulations

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Quote from @Drew Sygit:

Technically, believe per IRS you can be relocated for work temporarily for up to 2-3 years.

So, you theoretically could legally relocate to MN, then spend a lot of time in CA.


The IRS has no reason to care here - the IRS taxes you the same regardless of what state you are in.  CA will care as you have someone trying to commit tax evasion and not pay CA tax. It is no surprise that people don't want to pay tax in the high tax states and CA is onto this.  Each state has their own rules as to who is a resident.  The first step in re-establishing residence is to spend more time in another state.  It doesn't stop there, that is just the first step.

Post: Duel Residency to Avoid STR Regulations

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Quote from @Adri Jusczak:
Quote from @Michael Baum:

I am not sure I get it @Adri Jusczak. You live in CA now. The duplex is in another state but you are going to live in the lower unit. Not in CA. Do you mean you will hold the lower unit open as yours but not live in it?

Is your income job in CA? If so no way around paying income tax on that. Do you mean the income from the rental being able to avoid paying CA tax on out of state revenue? I am pretty sure if you live in CA you will be paying taxes on any out of state income.

Michael- sorry for the confusion! Long story short, originally from MN (my W2s main office is there but moved me out to CA, I can move back whenever though) the duplex is in MN, I can avoid all regulations if it is my primary residence (living in the lower unit). I’m trying to figure out how I can have the duplex be my primary home, while still living in CA most of the time if that makes sense? It’s a shot in the dark and logistically challenging, but the cash flow makes me want to figure it out. 

If you live in CA you are a resident of CA for tax purposes. Being a high tax state I am sure CA is very good at auditing this like MN is auditing people moving to FL. From an income tax perspective you are a resident of CA either way. If your DTI works out you could buy it as a second home or a vacation rental but you can't "pretend" to live in another state to pay less tax. That is tax evasion and a serious crime. Also very easy to audit as they can look at your banking information and credit card statements to see where you are spending your time/money.

Post: Experience with MN Property Nerds or Twin Cities Leasing

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@James Hamling Not solo but not an office of 50 people.  Haven't talked to him in a bit but I have some clients who use his company.

Post: Experience with MN Property Nerds or Twin Cities Leasing

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@James Hamling The owner of Twin Cities Leasing gained his experience working at your employer many years ago.

Post: Recommendations for roofing contractors?

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Definitely reach out to Options Exteriors - here is their number (651) 705-6376


Post: Experience with MN Property Nerds or Twin Cities Leasing

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I have some clients who use Twin Cities Leasing and have heard no complaints.  James manages quite a few properties and got into this by working several years at one of the larger national PM companies.

Post: Off market deal- how can seller lessen tax burden selling to me?

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Quote from @Daniel Hansen:
Quote from @John Woodrich:

If the seller's goal is to simply get rid of the day-to-day but they still want passive income a 1031/DST would be an option to move into another class of investment. However - DSTs don't have good liquidity and you pretty much lose all control of your money. A syndication could work if they were to allocate him losses to help offset some gain but if that is not an asset class he is interested it won't matter.

Seller finance won't help him much either as the depreciation recapture tax will all be due in the year of sale.  Only the capital gain portion would be deferred on the installment method.  Many sellers are surprised by the tax burden.  I suspect this is the portion of tax the seller is more surprised about.

You may be able to work out a partnership where he sells you units and you get into an operating agreement where he is paid without managing the operation with you taking over the existing debt but there are some traps to it and he may not want to invest with you.

He is in the scenario we all hate being in - nice to sell property at times but nobody wants to pay the tax.  No easy way around it.

@John Woodrich, related question. You mentioned "if they are willing to allocate losses…" Is it possible to do a syndication where I give the seller 1% of the new JV, do a cost segregation, and then subsequently allocate 100% of the losses to them? Or whatever percentage solves their tax problem, assuming I didn't need those losses myself.


Could you prepare a special allocation like this - yes.  But the allocation isn't likely to meet the substantial economic effect test.  Would be very easy for the IRS to throw out an allocation that is clearly tax avoidance and has no intended economic effect.  This is a very complex area of tax and not an area someone should DIY.  Anyone interested in allocations can try to understand this "overview" which is "easy" to understand https://www.thetaxadviser.com/...

Post: Off market deal- how can seller lessen tax burden selling to me?

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If the seller's goal is to simply get rid of the day-to-day but they still want passive income a 1031/DST would be an option to move into another class of investment. However - DSTs don't have good liquidity and you pretty much lose all control of your money. A syndication could work if they were to allocate him losses to help offset some gain but if that is not an asset class he is interested it won't matter.

Seller finance won't help him much either as the depreciation recapture tax will all be due in the year of sale.  Only the capital gain portion would be deferred on the installment method.  Many sellers are surprised by the tax burden.  I suspect this is the portion of tax the seller is more surprised about.

You may be able to work out a partnership where he sells you units and you get into an operating agreement where he is paid without managing the operation with you taking over the existing debt but there are some traps to it and he may not want to invest with you.

He is in the scenario we all hate being in - nice to sell property at times but nobody wants to pay the tax.  No easy way around it.

Post: ENDING LEASE IN MN AFTER RECEIVING RENTAL ASSISTANCE

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Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
The lease "already expired" so they will naturally convert to a month-to-month lease, which requires termination. 

Correct - The eviction moratorium is not relevant, he can give a non-renewal/lease termination letter and end the lease.  If they won't leave, he can evict.