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All Forum Posts by: Roy Gutierrez

Roy Gutierrez has started 59 posts and replied 290 times.

Post: Detroit

Roy Gutierrez
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If you're not going to be here locally it's easy for things to go south quick, great cashflow but also great risk if you don't have a "legit" team, which is very few, lots of wannabes. At the least if you're going to invest here I suggest to spend a couple of weeks looking at the city and going to local investor meetups and networking with local people and THEN invest.

Post: Detroit. Detroit. Detroit

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Rehabs in Detroit now are astronomical expensive! If you don't have a crew then prepare to suffer and spend a good amount of money. That rehab $250K is at the minimum, most likely closer to 300K if you rehab the right way.

Post: Boyfriend/Girlfriend breakup and rent responsability

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Originally posted by @Jeff Lamothe:

Thanks for sharing this situation @Roy Gutierrez.   I am researching prior forums on boyfriend / girlfriend tenant issues to see if anything fits the scenario that I am about to post.  

 Good luck Jeff, I'v switched all my houses to Short Term rentals so no more issues like this for now at least!

Post: Metro Detroit Rental Success

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Originally posted by @Carson M.:

City- Oak Park, Michigan

Purchase- 85,000 from a wholesaler.

Rehab- 26,000 plus 3,000 allocated company overhead

ARV- 180,000

Rent- $1600/month

I'm very happy how this one turned out! I purchased it while rehabbing a nearly identical home across the street (I picked that one up for 60k.)  I own three homes a few blocks over.  Those homes are bigger yet only get $1,150/month with long term tenants.  Time to up some rents!

Wow, that's great rent Carson! The house is looking awesome!

Is the house north or south of 696? 3 bedroom 1 bath?

Post: I'm getting my butt kicked

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Originally posted by @Nic S.:

I grossly underestimated maintenance and make ready costs for my KCMO portfolio. Operating costs are through the roof and net income is non-existent in my first year of business. 

I started with 2 SFH turnkeys which have performed well but then I bought 3 duplexes that are crushing my cash flow. All properties had a 3rd party inspection but between evictions, capex costs, and turnover costs my business will be losing money in 2020.

I think I scaled too quickly. 1 unit total in 2019, 7 more in 2020 for a total of 8 in <12months. I underestimated the amount of reserves I'll need to ensure my portfolio pays for itself. 7 of the 8 properties exceed the 1% rule and appreciation is happening in KCMO. 

I keep telling myself its 'a long game' but it sure feels like I'm doing something wrong. 

I'm on writing this to share my personal experience, these are fantastic lessons I'm learning but it wasn't how I envisioned year 1 going. 

Have you checked if any of these properties could generate good income as Airbnbs? That could be an option.

Post: Airbnb in an empty market

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Originally posted by @Philip Cook:

I have an offer in on a property that is currently a motel. The plan is to convert it into apartments, studio and 1 bed. In looking at Airbnb and VRBO there are clusters 20 miles north and south, but nothing local. It's a town of about 9,000. I'm trying to figure out if it's worth doing Airbnb with a unit or two. I believe it would be more of a hotel alternative than a destination vacation business model. County ordinances do limit me to a 2 night minimum though. Has anyone has success with this type of situation?

 You would be surprised where people airbnb, I would suggest you just go for it, I would almost be sure that the worst that could happen is that you make the same as a regular rental, again that would be the worst case scenario.

Post: Female Property Inves./Landlord on the verge of leaving the busn

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Originally posted by @Deisy P.:

Female Property Investors/Landlords. I need your advice. If you are doing this on your own. By that, I mean, no male figure next to you that is your father, boyfriend, husband, brother, cousin. If you have none of these people by your side and you are in this business, I really need your advice because I'm on the verge of selling everything. It has all come to be so stressful, being taken advantage of, imposter syndrome. I don't want to play the victim card but I don't know if this is a sign to head in another direction. If you are or have been in the same position at one time please let me know what you've done to stick with it or if indeed you did move on, what was it. Thanks.

Hi Deisy,

Sorry you're going thru this tough time, do you mind if I ask how long you've been investing? A lot of us go thru these situations especially when starting out but hang on, you will feel better as you keep learning. I'm by myself also, I know it's frustrating when maybe you need help to move a sofa you have to hire someone! but I do see these shady contractors trying harder to scam women thinking they don't know anything. I suggest just take a few days, I've been there,many issues, including a roofing job that I should have replaced but was semi-scammed and convinced to patch up and spent about 6K for that and still have a roof that probably will need to be replaced in a few years, it's infuriating but your best defense is knowledge, start networking in your area, try to join your local FB investor group and post any questions you have there; we have a local FB group in my area and that's gold.

Post: New Michigan investor

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Originally posted by @Paul S.:
Originally posted by @Courtney Maynard:

@Paul S. Not the warm welcome I was hoping for, but definitely open to suggestions for getting helpful replies to future questions.

 Courtney, you will NOT receive a warm welcome in Detroit - this market is not for the faint of heart.  Contrary to all the "Come back city" puff pieces that run in clueless publications this market is not the utopia they portray.  Over 90% of investors fail here... OOS numbers are much higher.  You will NOT find a good PM here - you will go through several while being fleeced and frauded the whole way causing you to hemorrhage cash.  Renovation contractors will not be any kinder.  If you do not have boots on the ground (YOUR boots) the tenant base here will eat you alive.  The court system is set up for you to fail and the locals know how to use it to their advantage. There is a reason this city has been a desolate wasteland for almost 60 years. There is tons of money to be made in Detroit if you are as tough as the city itself... most are not and just pile on the bodies of past investors.

 I agree with Paul, there are a few outside investors that have done well (probably bought years ago at the low end prices) but I've heard of so many ripoffs and it's also a challenge to do business in Detroit that I wouldn't recommend an outside investor to buy in Detroit at today's prices and take the risk, if you're local OR you come here and watch your investment it's a great opportunity.

Post: Detroit Property Investments

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Originally posted by @Account Closed:

@Roy Gutierrez thank you for your feedback. Do you know of any good lenders/investors for rehabbing and investment property?

I've used Huntington, Dart bank, really haven't done much searching, the main stuff is your qualification as an applicant, if you're not qualified no bank is going to take you then you have to search for hard money lenders and that could be going down the rabbit hole if you don't have a great deal.

If you don't qualify you can try to partner with another investor but it has to be a "deal" and worth their time, if it's a deal the investors will come, you should join the Metro Detroit Metroit Real Estate Investors group, that will give you a great insight into the Detroit market and networking with local investors.

Post: Detroit Property Investments

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Originally posted by @Account Closed:

@Roy Gutierrez thank you for your feedback. Do you know of any good lenders/investors for rehabbing and investment property?

There are some but they usually lend to people that are experienced, though for a newbie. I wouldn't suggest buying a fixer upper as your first property. If you can find one that has cosmetic fixes only that would be a better start