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All Forum Posts by: Jonathan Minerick

Jonathan Minerick has started 525 posts and replied 712 times.

Post: Being the selling agent for your own flips?

Jonathan MinerickPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 722
  • Votes 120

The cheapest and easiest way to do your own listings is through a flat fee broker. You can list on the MLS for ~$100 and not bother getting licensed or paying MLS dues. Feel free to reach out if you have questions.

Post: FSBO potential problems -many people still regard all FSBO listings as scams.

Jonathan MinerickPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 722
  • Votes 120

Also note that the cost to list on the MLS through a flat fee broker has become trivial (e.g. $150 or less).

Post: Help! Gone way over the budget of my first flip and still not fin

Jonathan MinerickPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 722
  • Votes 120

@Anna Stairs Avoid FSBO, do a flat fee MLS listing (~$150) and you'll get much better exposure and can work with agents who have buyers. If you need help with the paperwork, get a transaction coordinator (~$450).

Post: Use an agent to sell lots?

Jonathan MinerickPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 722
  • Votes 120

@Christine Hull Consider doing a flat fee MLS listing (~$150), which saves you the cost of the listing agent, and retaining a transaction coordinator (~$450, many are licensed agents) who will make sure you get all the correct paperwork done. It's very easy and will save you a ton of money.

The other added benefit is that for most flat fee MLS listings, if the buyer comes to you direct you will owe nothing for the buyer agent commission. The transaction coordinator can handle the paperwork for both of you. Total cost to sell all 5 lots could be as low as $2,750 instead of paying $57,000 using a traditional agent.

Feel free to reach out if you have questions.

Post: Selling for sale by owner in 2022?

Jonathan MinerickPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 722
  • Votes 120

It's important to know the difference between FSBO and flat fee - they are often confused. FSBO is hard, flat fee works. Below is from a BP blog I wrote about this. If you decide flat fee makes more sense, here is a BP blog about what to look for.

1. FSBO and Flat Fee MLS are Different Things

A "FSBO" listing means that a seller is not working with a listing agent. When a seller does a Flat Fee MLS listing, they are no longer FSBO, as they are using an agent to list them on the MLS.

The above point is very important.

When agents see that a seller wants to do a Flat Fee MLS listing, they incorrectly point to a report by the National Association of Realtors (NAR) that claims FSBO sales makes less money than agent sales. But the NAR study includes Flat Fee MLS listings with agent listings, not with FSBO listings.

2. There is a Massive Difference in Exposure Between FSBO and Flat Fee MLS

FSBO Listings appear on:

  • - Craigslist
  • - Zillow, in the “Other listings” section, which are hidden by default

Flat Fee MLS Listings appear on:

  • - MLS, with all other agent listings
  • - Zillow, with all other agent listings
  • - All major real estate search engines (Redfin, realtor.com, etc.)
  • - Brokerage websites (Compass, Keller Williams, Coldwell, ReMAX, etc.)

In addition, the Flat Fee MLS listing will go out to the agent's clients via new MLS listing notification emails.

3. The Compensation Mechanic is Completely Different

A Flat Fee MLS listing gives sellers the ability to display a binding offer of commission to buyer agents on the MLS. This is a primary function of the MLS, which also has mandatory rules, including arbitration, when the commission offer is not honored.

This is much different than a FSBO seller stating they will pay a commission on Craiglist or some other website.

Having to negotiate a commission in advance of showing a FSBO home to a buyer means work for the buyer's agent, without even being sure their buyer wants to purchase the home. If the agent waits until after showing a FSBO home to discuss the commission, the agent is in a poor spot to negotiate.

For the above reasons, buyer agents will generally avoid listings where there is no binding offer of compensation. The MLS solves this issue.

87% of buyers have an agent.

4. Studies Show That Agents DO NOT Make Sellers More Money

Going back to the NAR claim that FSBO sales make less than Agent sales. Here is what the NAR report says:

  • - FSBO sold for a median of $260,000, lower than the median of agent-assisted homes at $318,000

So the NAR claim is that FSBO homes sold for a whopping 18% less ($58,000) than agent listed homes. Read that again.

The truth, that you can ask anyone involved in real estate, is that FSBO homes are usually significantly overpriced. Does that make sense that a FSBO seller would go from being significantly overpriced to being 18% underpriced?

But how can the NAR finding be so wrong?

Aside from the obvious answer that they are a trade group for real estate agents, and they would not be around for long if they said that using an agent doesn't make a difference, here are a few reasons, which NAR acknowledges as not being factored in to their finding:

  • - Lower priced properties are more likely to FSBO (e.g. commission costs are high relative to price, agents aren't as interested in selling low prices homes).
  • - Rural homes are 3x more likely to FSBO than urban homes. Rural homes are $104,000 less, on average, than urban homes.
  • - The NAR finding is not an apples to apples comparison. For example, a small home sold FSBO in the midwest compared to an custom home in Los Angeles are going to have very different price points. The NAR study treats them the same and tries to compare them against each other.
  • - 57% of FSBO homes are sold to someone the seller knows (e.g. family, friend, etc).

Can we find any independent studies on FSBO vs agent listed homes? Yes, two studies from private research institutions:

The truth is that real estate is a market like any other. It is driven by supply and demand. Agents do not make homes sell for more money - which would also infer that while a buyer would significantly overpay by buying a home listed by a real estate agent.

Real estate agents are useful for many reasons, but the myth that they will make a seller more money is not one of them.

Post: FSBO CLOSE ADVICE - I have a buyer just need the process handled.

Jonathan MinerickPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 722
  • Votes 120

You can find an escrow company and they can often assist. 

If you need slightly more help with the paperwork, disclosures, timelines, just google "Transaction Coordinator FSBO" and you'll find one (usually around $450). If you need a recommendation, just DM me.

Post: Have any of you tried for sale by owner?

Jonathan MinerickPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 722
  • Votes 120

Listing on the MLS for a flat fee (e.g. $199) is much better exposure than doing a FSBO. Plus you can offer buyer agents a commission, which is really important as ~90% of buyers have an agent.

BP blog post on the difference between flat fee MLS and FSBO here

BP blog post on how to choose a flat fee MLS provider here

Post: Is it better to list my house myself vs going through a realtor?

Jonathan MinerickPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 722
  • Votes 120

Independent studies (1, 2) and basic logic show you will make more selling it yourself. Do a flat fee MLS listing (costs $100-200) and offer a market rate commission to buyer agents. Get a transaction coordinator to help you with the paperwork (~$450).

FSBO and Flat Fee MLS are different things, it's useful to understand the difference.

Post: Flat rate MLS for FSBO w/ buyers commission

Jonathan MinerickPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 722
  • Votes 120

Flat Fee MLS and Discount Brokerage are different things.

Flat Fee MLS means the seller is paying a small fee (e.g. $150) to place a home on the MLS and that is the only service being provided by the Listing Agent (seller handles everything else).

Discount Brokerage means all the usual services are included, such as negotiation, but at less than the typical 5-6% commission.

The challenge for sellers is that you don't know what you are going to get when you hire an agent. The agents cost does not necessarily correspond to value.

Agents can point to a deal where it may have worked out in their sellers best interest to pay them more, but what about the deals where seller would have made more money by using a Flat Fee or Discount Broker? Multiple independent studies (1, 2) show that sellers would make more money by not paying the commissions, which is why the Department of Justice advocates for using flat fee services.

Again, I think agents are useful in many cases, but the idea that agents are going to make a seller more money is just not true. 

Post: Flat rate MLS for FSBO w/ buyers commission

Jonathan MinerickPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 722
  • Votes 120

I have seen a lot of confusion around For Sale by Owner "FSBO" and Flat Fee MLS. Here are some things you need to know.

1. FSBO and Flat Fee MLS are Different Things

A "FSBO" listing means that a seller is not working with a listing agent. When a seller does a Flat Fee MLS listing, they are no longer FSBO, as they are using an agent to list them on the MLS.

The above point is very important.

When agents see that a seller wants to do a Flat Fee MLS listing, they incorrectly point to a report by the National Association of Realtors (NAR) that claims FSBO sales makes less money than agent sales. But the NAR study includes Flat Fee MLS listings with agent listings, not with FSBO listings.

2. There is a Massive Difference in Exposure Between FSBO and Flat Fee MLS

FSBO Listings appear on:

  • Craigslist
  • Zillow, in the “Other listings” section, which are hidden by default

Flat Fee MLS Listings appear on:

  • MLS, with all other agent listings
  • Zillow, with all other agent listings
  • All major real estate search engines (Redfin, realtor.com, etc.)
  • Brokerage websites (Compass, Keller Williams, Coldwell, ReMAX, etc.)

In addition, the Flat Fee MLS listing will go out to the agent's clients via new MLS listing notification emails.

3. The Compensation Mechanic is Completely Different

A Flat Fee MLS listing gives sellers the ability to display a binding offer of commission to buyer agents on the MLS. This is a primary function of the MLS, which also has mandatory rules, including arbitration, when the commission offer is not honored.

This is much different than a FSBO seller stating they will pay a commission on Craiglist or some other website.

Having to negotiate a commission in advance of showing a FSBO home to a buyer means work for the buyer's agent, without even being sure their buyer wants to purchase the home. If the agent waits until after showing a FSBO home to discuss the commission, the agent is in a poor spot to negotiate.

For the above reasons, buyer agents will generally avoid listings where there is no binding offer of compensation. The MLS solves this issue.

87% of buyers have an agent.

4. Studies Show That Agents DO NOT Make Sellers More Money

Going back to the NAR claim that FSBO sales make less than Agent sales. Here is what the NAR report says:

  • FSBO sold for a median of $260,000, lower than the median of agent-assisted homes at $318,000

So the NAR claim is that FSBO homes sold for a whopping 18% less ($58,000) than agent listed homes. Read that again.

The truth, that you can ask anyone involved in real estate, is that FSBO homes are usually significantly overpriced. Does that make sense that a FSBO seller would go from being significantly overpriced to being 18% underpriced?

But how can the NAR finding be so wrong?

Aside from the obvious answer that they are a trade group for real estate agents, and they would not be around for long if they said that using an agent doesn't make a difference, here are a few reasons, which NAR acknowledges as not being factored in to their finding:

  • Lower priced properties are more likely to FSBO (e.g. commission costs are high relative to price, agents aren't as interested in selling low prices homes).
  • Rural homes are 3x more likely to FSBO than urban homes. Rural homes are $104,000 less, on average, than urban homes.
  • The NAR finding is not an apples to apples comparison. For example, a small home sold FSBO in the midwest compared to an custom home in Los Angeles are going to have very different price points. The NAR study treats them the same and tries to compare them against each other.
  • 57% of FSBO homes are sold to someone the seller knows (e.g. family, friend, etc).

Can we find any independent studies on FSBO vs agent listed homes? Yes, two studies from private research institutions:

The truth is that real estate is a market like any other. It is driven by supply and demand. Agents do not make homes sell for more money - which would also infer that a buyer would significantly overpay by buying a home listed by a real estate agent.

Real estate agents are useful for many reasons, but the myth that they will make a seller more money is not one of them.