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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 141 posts and replied 4070 times.

Post: Using Subject To, to Get "Free" Properties - A Quick Guideline

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Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Account Closed:

People always assume that having an LLC keeps them from getting sued, but look, the individuals are being sued too. So much for an LLC protection.
Here who is being sued:


Federal Trade Commission, and
Utah Division of Consumer Protection,
Plaintiffs,
v.
Nudge, LLC, a Utah limited liability company; Response Marketing Group, LLC, a Utah limited liability company, also doing business as, 3 Day Real Estate Training, Abundance Edu, LLC, Affluence Edu, LLC, American Money Tour, Cash Flow EDU, Clark EDU, LLC, Edge 2 Real Estate, Evtech Media North, Flip for Life, Flipping For Life, Income Events, Insider’s Financial Education, LLC, Leading Financial Education, LLC, Onwealth, Power Flip, Prosper Live, Property Education, LLC, Renovate To Rent, Simple Real Estate Training, Smart Flip, Snap Flip, US Education Advance, Vintage Flip, Visionary Events, Wealth Tribe, Women’s Empowerment, Yancey Events, Yancey, LLC, and Your Real Estate Today, a Utah limited liability company; BuyPD, LLC, a Utah limited liability company; Brandon B. Lewis, individually and as a principal and owner of Nudge, LLC, Response Marketing Group, LLC, and BuyPD, LLC; Ryan C Poelman, individually and as a principal and owner of Nudge, LLC, Response Marketing Group, LLC, and BuyPD, LLC; Phillip W. Smith, individually and as a principal and owner of Nudge, LLC, Response Marketing Group, LLC, and BuyPD, LLC; Shawn L. Finnegan, individually and as a principal and owner of Nudge, LLC, Response Marketing Group, LLC, and BuyPD, LLC; and Clint R. Sanderson, individually and as an officer of Response Marketing Group, LLC, and BuyPD, LLC, Defendants.
FTC Matter/File Number 182 3016Federal Court District of Utah
https://www.ftc.gov/legal-libr...




I missed this last year..  I was in Nudges offices a few years back when they were looking for someone to help them out of the Detroit mess that they created.. these guys had a monster machine . Same day they were meeting with me they had a finance guy in talking about how they could finance their students tuition's.
Your comment: "they were looking for someone to help them out of the Detroit mess that they created."

That's so typical. I suppose they thought they were the smartest guys in the room and the law and physics don't apply to them. :-)
There is noting new under the sun and the FTC and DOJ have seen it all. They know where to look when they want to.

Post: Stuck with a House for sale since November

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Quote from @Boffill Yosleys:

Hello guys my name is Yosleys Boffill. I have been flipping houses for a year or so in the Midwest specially in Lousiville,KY. I was doing fine until I decided to go for a more expensive neighborhood and price range. We are selling this house in the Highlands ( good neighborhood) and we have been stuck with it since November. We have dropped the price a lot, we even have an appraisal for 20k over listing price, we have had 22 showings since the last decrease in price.....and nothing. Everyone finds the rooms too small or something that does not fit their family,etc.

I am at the point of breaking even but in a month I will be losing money because of the Hard Money lender payments. The agent has done everything for the marketing and open houses and social media....again people are coming every week. I will appreciate any idea from the most experienced investors on how to proceed on these cases to get out of this hole. I got 3 other flips going on but I will love to get out of this one. Thanks in advance.

Sell it on a Lease Option, get 10% down. Refinance with a DSCR loan.

Post: Best area for Section 8 investing (without lead free paint laws) Akron Lorraine?

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Quote from @Jonathan Ghione:

Hello,

I am looking to purchase section 8 properties in the Ohio area.

Please note I plan to fly out there in the next few weeks several times.

Although I know these properties are in rougher neighborhoods I prefer to purchase in an area that is not a war zone. I am more interested in safer investments even if it means less cash flow.

I am interested in areas with no lead paint so I am thinking either Akron or Lorraine?

I am looking for single family houses for now. Houses that need less than less than $30,000 worth work so not something that is not too old.

I am trying to do the same model as Dr. Joe Asamoah.

The Section 8 BRRRR Strategy That Beats Regular Rentals - YouTube

With the above information being presented is there are certain ZIP Code even better as a way to narrow this down to a certain neighborhoods.

What price point are these houses going for?

I am aware there are good and bad section 8 tenants. I do have a good radar for judging people I worked as a nurse in Prisons including working  Additionally, I self manage a property in Arizona out of state.

I do realize I need to build my team for out-of-state investing but I am not at that point yet first I need to start analyzing the area.

Thank you!!!

Facinating: "I do have a good radar for judging people I worked as a nurse in Prisons"

First, are there "good" people in prison? They had to have multiple convictions to wind up there. They worked pretty hard at being bad. Second, with that kind of background, you are "good to go" in any neigborhood in the USA. Congratulations.

Post: Housing Cartel in Arizona?

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Quote from @Christie Gahan:

I came across this today.

youtube.com/watch?v=vdL7edltXIA

Ariz AG alleges that major prop management companies all used the same company for data.  ( Please correct me if I'm wrong).  Not sure how the fact that they used the same data company creates a monopoly.  Anybody local in AZ up on this?

It's a made up problem. There is simply a housing shortage because the growth is explosive here (lots of technology and other industries). The MLS would have to be declared illegal to match their definition of a monopoly. That does not represent the opinion of most people in AZ. Please keep in mind there were ummm, "irregularities" in counting the votes the last two elections and this is what happens. We're trying to fix that problem so actual results reflect the will of the people. This is a Public Service announcement. :-) Not to worry, the public will move to where they can afford to live and that will affect prices up & down the scale.
Click to enlarge: Phoenix has the most space under construction. 

Post: Math on a holding vs selling

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Quote from @Keegan Darby:

We have a rental property that is now vacant in a C-class area. 

Monthly mortgage amount is $780/month (PITI).

Market rent is $1,300/month. 

Loan amount left is $132,000.


If we list it, we can sell at $205k and assuming 8% closing / realtor / concession fees, the revenue would be $188k. 

So, after paying off the mortgage,  would net $58k (and wouldn't pay capital gains taxes as I have so many losses from previous years).

Would you sell it or keep holding it?

I would sell. I don't like low class neigborhoods for holding. It's just not necessary and the guys who say it's wonderful to be in those areas, can have them. Invest where yuo feel safe. Rents are better, appreciation is better and you don't have to worry about a lot of things in decent neighborhoods. ;-) 

Post: Using private money for Creative financing deals

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Quote from @Tony Pellettieri:

Hey Alex,

We recently joined SubTo. It had a, what some may call, high entry fee in itself.

Private lenders as you probably already know lend on/against assets, opposed to your DTI, etc. You may find it difficult to obtain financing from private lenders due to the fact when utilizing SubTo, you don't actually hold title to the asset. Not saying with the proper structuring it can't be done, but there are usually more effective ways. Lender's typically offer the best terms when they can secure a senior/first position lien.

It may be more beneficial to find a partner, instead of a lender, who can help fund your acquisitions. A partner can bring valuable insight and creativity to a deal and help you see opportunities you may not have identified on your own.

Have you done any SubTo deals yet, or will this be your first?

@Tony Pellettieri: Someone said to join the Subto community is now $12,000. Is that about right?

Post: New Member Intro

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Quote from @Adam Hoggard:

Hey everyone, my name is Adam. Over the past couple of months, I have been studying and learning the real estate game. It’s a lot to learn, but I’ve been trying to take it all in. I focus solely on subto, seller finance, and wholesaling. Any tips, pointers, or mentors will always be accepted. I’m excited about this journey that I am starting to pursue and I look forward to working with some of you in the near future.

@Adam Hoggard: So, what did you end up doing?

Post: Seven essential documents for a sub2 deal

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Quote from @Dave Halevi:

Good morning y'all.

on one of his videos, Pace Morby says that there are seven different documents you should have in order to execute a successful subject to deal?

Do you have any idea what these documents are? Where can I find them?

thank you very much!

They are a Purchase & Sale Agreement, Title Report, Power of Attorney, Disclosures, Closing Statement, Payoffs and a business card to a good attorney to get you out of the mess you will create if you try doing this on your own.

But use somebody, like us, that actually knows what they are doing to learn this. Pace Morby doesn't seem to understand overleveraging, Due on Sale, title reports, the need for your own money and much more.

Can you build a house of cards missing a couple of the cards? Sure, but it will be unstable and collapse. It should concern you that done incorrectly you can be sued and investigated. Done properly it's a powerful tool.

Think about this, you don’t know what LEGAL forms you need, let alone what they are FOR and how to FILL THEM OUT.

Does this not concern you?


Post: Subject to, but small loan - what to do?

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Quote from @James Park:

Hi all,

I've purchased properties subject to, and I understand how it works.

I am currently looking at a deal where the sales price is $290K and there is an existing loan for $150K. The loan is fixed at 3% over 30 years and has about 27 years left. Obviously an awesome loan to take over and the seller is fully willing to let me do so.

Problem is the $140K shortfall.

I can either:

1) Come in with the $140K cash - obviously don't want do this

2) Find a loan for the $140K. But what private lender is going to want to come in second, and what bank is going to do it knowing there's a first with someone else's name on the loan?

3) If I can find a private money lender to do a 2nd mortgage, they will need a high interest rate. Probably at least 10% if not 12% or more.  I guess this isn't the worst thing, since the low rate on the first mortgage would offset much of the higher rate on the 2nd.

4) Refinance the entire property at whatever I can get - 7% or so.

I'm just wondering if there is a solution where I can really take advantage of the low rate on the first, offer the property out to buyers with a wrap loan and drive up the asking price because it has built in financing with a fantastic rate.

Any ideas shoot them over!!


And Thanks in Advance!

That's a very common problem in this market. The technique to attempt, is an owner carryback on the equity as a 2nd. We teach this in our training.

Post: Subject-to creative finance

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Quote from @Luis Caracosa:

Hello BP mentors, is there anyone who can guide me on Subject-to sale?

Background: we acquired a property Dec 2021 using the subject-to strategy. We created a contract for deed when we first acquired the property but now we are trying to sell since the person who owns it wants it out of their name. I think we missed steps while using this transaction because the title company said they can’t do anything because we never transferred the deed into our name. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Luis

I clean these up all of the time because a "guru" out there, very popular by the way, is giving bad advice. If you fell prey to that "community" I'd ask for my money back. 

You've got a technical problem that involves several things. It can be fixed, but we're not cheap.