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All Forum Posts by: Michael Patton

Michael Patton has started 2 posts and replied 31 times.

Quote from @Santiago Acevedo:

Hello Bigger Pockets, I am an 18 year old still in high school looking to get straight into the game of Real Estate after I graduate. I have read a few books of real estate investing by Ken McElroy and have read other books for financial literacy. I am looking for a mentor I could contact with to work for and gain experience in Real Estate Investing. My current plans are to get at least one property by the end of the year. I know it might be difficult to start knowing I don't have much experience and I currently can't even check my own credit score. Just looking to put the question out there of what is the best thing I can do for real estate investing coming straight out of high school. I know house hacking seems the most appealing for my current situation but I'm open to any other options and willing to put the work for it. I've been currently on the journey of learning and learning, but now I'm looking for the best journey for action and action so open to any suggestions on what I should start with. Thank you for reading.  (Will be reading Brandon Turner's Multi-Family book and also other BP Real Estate Investing books) #WAGMI

It is AWESOME that at your age you are already this far ahead. Most of us spent years after school trying to figure life out before finally finding real estate. The books you are ready is a great foundation to build as well as the great advice from the posts above. Brandons Volume 1 will get you excited and Volume 2 will show you what lies in front of you for the future (great goal setting). 

You are going to get a ton of advice and opinions (just like this one). My advice, take it all in just like data, but use your gut to make your own decisions. Of course, over time your gut gets better and better with experience. Enjoy the ride. Kick ***, and dont let any No's, failure, or let downs get in your way. 

Keep reaching out to the community as people love to help here. It is amazing. 

Mike

Post: Airbnb/Multifamily properties in Waco, Texas

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Quote from @Mike Annunziata:

Hey there! My brothers and I are hoping to expand our portfolio to Waco, TX but we are hoping to get some feedback! We live in Southern California and own an Airbnb in Arizona and we wanted to branch out to a new market. We have heard good things about Waco, TX but we're hoping to get some more insight. We are very interested in the Airbnb market but would also love to start acquiring some multifamily properties as well. Is Waco a good market for Airbnb and Multifamily? Or does the market in Waco favor one over the other? Thanks in advance ya'll!!


 Agree what others are saying about STRs in Waco. As far as MF, it is on fire, just like the rest of the state, but not as overpriced (yet!). 

Post: New Investor to Northwest Arkansas

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Quote from @Jack Marshall:

Hi everyone! I am new to the Northwest Arkansas area and want to begin investing in this location. After reading some books, listening to BiggerPockets podcasts, and browsing the forums, I figured it was time to introduce myself.

My name is Jack Marshall and I am 23 years old. I recently graduated from Kansas State University with an Industrial Engineering degree and ended up in NWA due to a job opportunity. Some of my hobbies include Mountain Biking, Hiking, and 3D printing.

After renting for the first couple of months I decided that I wanted a new approach. My plan is to find a multifamily property in the Northwest Arkansas area which I can house hack. Although these seem relatively rare, I love the idea of house hacking for my first investment property.

I don't have a lot of connections yet, but am very excited to be a part of this community. I would love to connect with y'all and get more involved. Thank you for reading this post and learning a little about me!

- Jack Marshall


 Welcome Jack. 

We actually just invested in a large MF in Springdale and continue to look for things from B'ville to Ft Smith. There is a ton of good mountain biking up there as I am sure you have found. Im bringing my dirt bike the next time we are doing DD on a property. I have seen a few smaller MF worth hacking in the past couple of months in that area. I took a quick look and dont see them on the market, but I am sure there will be more. We are interested in the same but for a buy and hold strategy as long as we have larger MF in the area we need to check in on from time to time. 

Hope the new eng job is going well. 

Mike

Post: New Member Introduction from Phoenix, AZ!

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Quote from @Renee Hood:

Hello Everyone,

I joined this month and I would like to network and get connected with other investors all over but especially in the Metropolitan Phoenix area as that's where I live.  While I'm new to the group I'm not new to Real Estate and investing, however I haven't invested or been a realtor since 2010.  I would like to invest again in the Phoenix area but I am open to investing outside of AZ.

I currently own an E-Commerce business and sell the majority of my products on Amazon.   I have been wanting to get back into Real Estate investing and while my current business does keep me busy I do have systems in place that will allow me to pursue my investment passion and if I don't do it now I will continue to regret it. My goal is to build a team of realtors, lenders and contractors and build a rental portfolio that includes but is not limited too: long term/short term/multi family rentals, fix and flips, Air B and Bs.  If you're in the area and would like to connect let me know.  I look forward to being a part of the Bigger Pockets community.


 As someone that also has a large Amazon FBA biz, you are going to love real estate. If done right, it will quickly eclipse anything you could achieve on AMZ. Best of luck to you and I hope you crush all of your goals. 

Post: New Investor in South Bend, IN

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Quote from @Stephen DiJulius:

I am an agent, though at the moment my w2 job is my primary income. I made my first investment this year - single family that cash flows at $600/mo. My goal is to BRRRR it.

Looking forward to interacting on these forums!


 Congrats on making the step and doing your first of many investments so you can eventually kick the W2 to the curb. I was up in that neck of the woods looking at multifamily and ventured over to Elkhart. 

Quote from @Lawrence Briggs:


I have finally closed on my first rental property. I know own two properties in TX (a primary and investment).

I’m so excited to be a part of the Bigger Pockets community! As a novice Real Estate Investor, I look forward to the process of growing my portfolio!

It only takes that one family member to start the generational wealth cycle; I am that person! Born and raised in New Orleans, by a single mother! Thank you all for the support 🤗


 This is awesome. Great job and keep kicking butt. Here is to all the strong single moms that raised us!

Post: Local meet up in or around Tulsa Oklahoma

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@Robert Freeman I'm also in the Tulsa area and new to real estate. Haven't found any meet ups but let me know if you find one because I would also be interested

Did you or @Robert Freeman ever find local groups in Tulsa? I am starting to look at Multifamily in the area and would like to get a better "lay of the land". Thanks

Post: Newbie! Let's chat about new SFH builds!

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Quote from @Diana Alvarado:

Hi! I'm Diana, and am looking to connect with anyone interested in discussing investing in new builds over old. 
What is it that you would want out of a new SFH build? What would make you choose a new build from a developer?

We are closing on 4 new builds this week, and are eager to start our 25 new builds in TX! You say there's a shortage, well developers are out there building new SFH left and right! Let's chat! :)

Buy new bills has gotten more difficult as an investor since a lot of the contractors especially in your area limit the amount that investors can buy. It’s understandable, just pointing out the obvious. We are Interested in buying multiple new homes in a new subdivision especially when they’re in the first phase. Happy to discuss as we are neighbors.
Quote from @Brian Plajer:

I have heard several podcasts related to Partnering to scale up and buy a commercial apartment building.  It sounds like they get a deal under contract and then raise the capital. How is that possible for someone inexperienced ? I'm struggling with the chicken or the egg scenario.  If someone never owned an apartment building or raised capital before  I can't imagine their offer would be taken seriously much less get it under contract.   If that same person tried to raise capital I imagine they would receive  the same resistance.  I have heard its recommended to be an LP and try to learn the process but how involved can you be as an LP?  I am struggling with the next step. 


 Hi Brian - 

This all depends on you and your goals. You will get different advice from everyone and you just have to take in all the data and make the best informed decision. There really isn't a right or wrong. The only bad decision, is no decision. 

It is great you are taking action, learning, and attending classes. At some point you need to pull the trigger. Here are just a few things (my opinion, so just use as more data) you might consider. 

1. Ask yourself what you bring to the table for a deal as well as a partnership? Do you bring underwriting skills, money, relationships, asset management to the table? Meaning, why are partners that are experienced and doing well in the market going to want to partner with you?

2. Do you really think you are ready to go alone (even if you just go alone to get a deal lined up, are you ready to not miss anything in submitting an LOI, DD, etc?).

3. What size of deals and class of property interest you and why? What markets and sub markets are you looking at?

4. Have you established relationships with brokers? 

5. Have you started to build your own team? (Lender, broker, insurance, atty, CPA, contractor, PM companies, etc)

These "classes" are good for the basics, but most are BS and won't prepare you for what needs to be done. You will think you are prepared after the class only to get a rude awakening when you get into a deal. 

Oh, and you are right. In this market, if you haven't done a deal before, it is harder to get a deal. Most sellers and brokers will take a lower number if they are more convinced someone will be able to close due to their experience. That doesn't mean you can't do it, as you can do anything, it just means it is another road block as you already know. 

Being an LP has a lot of advantages if you want to learn. There are inexpensive ways to do this for your first deal. The key is getting the most out of it. Go into a deal as if it was your deal. Ask for the teams analysis (underwriting), watch how they do DD, line up lending and what type such as bridge, plan to renovate and timeframe, exit horizon and goals, etc. The more you are prepared going in, the more you will get out of it and advance your learning exponentially instead of a death by a 1000 cuts. Create your own learning bootcamp so to speak. 

Mike

Quote from @Maiane Freitas:

Hello everyone!

I am 29 years old and I have been investing in real estate for the past 3 years. I currently have 300k cash to put down towards my next purchase.
I own four single families homes, a duplex and a triplex, but I would really love purchasing a bigger unit. I have been browsing for properties but they are mostly out of my price range. 

I was hoping to get some advice towards my next move. Would you continue to buy single family properties or would you save for a bigger unit? 

I really appreciate your advice. Thanks!


 Congrats on what you have done so far. Going bigger definitely has its advantages, but it isn't all unicorns and rainbows. 

First, it starts with what size you would like to go with, your ultimate goals and the general area. If you are thinking of the 5+ door market but staying relatively small (under 50 doors), that you might be able to stay on your own and figure out some creative ways to get it done. On the other hand, if you want to go bigger or you are in a more expensive area (where the cap rate is below 4), then you probably need to partner. That opens an entire different can of worms. 

Partnering can be great and has advantages, but like any relationship, things can go wrong. Picking a partner should be tough and done with a lot of personal due diligence. Ultimately you are learning here, and want to find a partner that has the experience where you can bring something to the table to entice someone worthy of your skills to partner. 

On the other hand, have you thought about going in as an LP on a syndicate so you can see how the process on larger multifamily works, how they analyzed and underwrote the deal, how and what type of financing they got, due physical due diligence with them, raising capital, closing, and ultimately hiring a PM company to reach your objectives. Finding a decent deal is easy right now, and you would be able to do so with $50k as an investment. Just a thought to help with the learning curve and help decide what you want to do. 

You have done well up to this point. My guess is that you have listened to your gut in a lot of these deals. Keep doing that and it will lead you to where you want to get to. 

Mike