All Forum Posts by: Michael Newman
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Post: Deal Analysis -- 8 unit South Side Chicago,

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Jim, thanks very much.
I just want to make sure I understand the Downtime issue more specifically. I put together some numbers based on above and the avg rent for the units in the bldg.
Overall Vacancy Rate for the building is 8% with 2% Bad Debt, which is 9.6 total unit months (8 units x 12 months total 96 unit months/yr for the building). This totals about $10,900.
Turnover months vacant for one unit per year at 1.5 month per unit costs $1,700
Re-lease commissions at $300/unit total $2400
New Lease Commission Costs at one months rent for two units total $2300
Total vacancy/Turnover/Lease costs for the bldg per year total approx $17,300.
I had $14,300 above accounting for all--so short about $3,000.
What do you think of this calculation?
So property taxes at 2.5% of value for my price would be $18,000. That is really high. To get my figure I used the 2016 assessment of $200,000, which yielded a tax of $3300--actual for last year. I then multiplied this by 4 (assuming a $800,000 new value) to yielded a tax of about $13,000. Its so complicated to figure out taxes.
Thanks
Michael
Post: Deal Analysis -- 8 unit South Side Chicago,

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Joe,
Two units are completely vacant. The remaining units were either rented while other parts of the building were being renovated for a below market rate, or rented more recently in the past month or so, but still below the pro forma rate of 1250. The current range of rents is $800-$1200.
The pro forma rate of $1250 is exactly in line with immediate area rents. The units in this building are also quite a bit larger than anything being offered in the immediate area.
Thank. Michael
Post: Deal Analysis -- 8 unit South Side Chicago,

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Hey all, Hoping to get some assistance on the property analysis below. I like this property itself--recently renovated, big units, good area, and the $ per unit while on the high end has some comps likewise in the area. That said, in comparing the offering current/proforma numbers to my, more conservative number crunching, it doesn't yield a big profit incentive. Looking for some feedback on whether my numbers/assumptions/planning are just plain off. Of note, the property was just finished so in process of being rented out--so the current rent is skewed downward, and pro forma are more likely reflective of year two I figure. I have maintenance low for the first two years given the just finished renovations--but increasing in later years. I also plan to invest in utility saving measures immediately so these expenses are reflective of that. I typically increase rents/expenses 2-3% year on year, and try to account for all expenses I can think of.
Lastly, I apologize for the formatting--can't seem to get the table to transfer nicely.
Ok, have at it--critical comments very welcome. Thanks. Michael.
Their Numbers | ||||
Asking Price | circa $800,000 | |||
My Price | $800,000 | |||
$ Down | $200,000 | |||
Mortgage | $600,000 | |||
Annual Mortgage | $36,481 | |||
Year 1 | ||||
Revenue | Current | ProForma | ||
Gross Potential Rent | $71,460 | $120,000 | ||
Vacancy Rate (%) | -$26,400 | -$6,000 | ||
Net Rent Income | $45,060 | $114,000 | ||
Bad Debt | $0 | $0 | ||
RUBS | $0 | $0 | ||
Collection/Eviction | $0 | $0 | ||
Damages | $0 | $0 | ||
Application Fee | $0 | $0 | ||
Move in Fee | $0 | $0 | ||
Late Fee | $0 | $0 | ||
NSF Fee | $0 | $0 | ||
Other income | $0 | $0 | ||
Gross Income | $45,060 | $114,000 | ||
Expenses | ||||
Property Taxes | $3,000 | 7.42% | $12,000 | 11.12% |
Insurance | $5,000 | 11.10% | $5,000 | 4.39% |
Gas | $4,000 | 8.88% | $8,000 | 7.02% |
Electric | $1,000 | 2.22% | $1,000 | 0.88% |
Water | $2,000 | 4.44% | $3,500 | 3.07% |
Management Fee (5%) | $3,500 | 7.93% | $6,000 | 5.26% |
Maintenance | $5,000 | 11.10% | $5,000 | 4.39% |
Operating Reserves | $0 | 0.00% | $0 | 0.00% |
Pest | $0 | 0.00% | $0 | 0.00% |
Misc | $0 | 0.00% | $0 | 0.00% |
Advertising | $0 | 0.00% | $0 | 0.00% |
Janitor | $0 | 0.00% | $0 | 0.00% |
Supplies | $0 | 0.00% | $0 | 0.00% |
Snow/landscape | $1,200 | 2.66% | $1,200 | 1.05% |
CPA | $0 | 0.00% | $0 | 0.00% |
Legal/Eviction | $0 | 0.00% | $0 | 0.00% |
Trash | $1,500 | 3.33% | $1,500 | 1.32% |
Leasing Commissions | $0 | 0.00% | $0 | 0.00% |
Decorating/Turnover | $1,800 | 3.99% | $1,600 | 1.40% |
Total Expenses | $28,000 | 63.% | $45,000 | 39.% |
NOI | $16,000 | 36.% | $68,000 | 60% |
Debt Service | $36,480 | $36,000 pro forma | ||
DSCR | 0.46 | 1.88 | ||
Cash Flow | -$19,800 | $32,000 pro forma | ||
My Numbers | ||||
Asking Price | circa $800,000 | |||
My Price | circa $720,000 | |||
25% down | ||||
$ Down | $180,000 | $180,000.00 | ||
Mortgage | $540,000 | |||
Monthly Mortgage | $3,127 | $37,525.51 | ||
5.00%, 25 yr amort | ||||
Current | Pro Forma | |||
Revenue | Year 1 | Year 2 | ||
Rental Income | $96,660 | $109,800 | ||
Vacancy Rate (8%) | -$7,733 | -$8,784 | ||
Net Rent Income | $88,927 | $101,016 | ||
Bad Debt (2%) | -$1,779 | -$2,020 | ||
RUBS | $0 | $1,920 | ||
Gross Income | $87,149 | $100,916 | ||
Expenses | Year 1 | Year 2 | ||
Property Taxes | $12,672 | 14.54% | $12,925 | 12.81% |
Insurance | $5,150 | 5.91% | $5,305 | 5.26% |
Gas | $8,240 | 9.46% | $8,487 | 8.41% |
Electric | $1,030 | 1.18% | $999 | 0.99% |
Water | $3,605 | 4.14% | $3,497 | 3.47% |
Management Fee (7.0%) | $6,100 | 7.00% | $7,064 | 7.00% |
Maintenance 5% | $4,357 | 5.00% | $5,046 | 5.00% |
Operating Reserves | $2,400 | 2.75% | $2,400 | 2.38% |
Pest | $320 | 0.37% | $326 | 0.32% |
Misc | $500 | 0.57% | $510 | 0.51% |
Advertising | $500 | 0.57% | $500 | 0.50% |
Janitor | $2,000 | 2.29% | $2,040 | 2.02% |
Supplies | $500 | 0.57% | $500 | 0.50% |
Snow removal/landscape | $1,200 | 1.38% | $1,224 | 1.21% |
CPA | $800 | 0.92% | $816 | 0.81% |
Legal | $871 | 1.00% | $1,009 | 1.00% |
Trash | $1,530 | 1.76% | $1,561 | 1.55% |
Leasing Commissions | $2,000 | 2.29% | $2,000 | 1.98% |
Decorating/Turnover | $1,632 | 1.87% | $1,665 | 1.65% |
Total Expenses | $55,408 | 63.58% | $57,874 | 57.35% |
NOI | $31,740 | 36.42% | $43,042 | 42.65% |
Debt Service | $37,525.51 | $37,525.51 | ||
DSCR | 0.85 | 1.15 | ||
Cash Flow | -$5,785 | $5,516.41 | 2.69% | |
CAP Rate | 4.41% | 5.98% |
Post: Chicago - Southside Market

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Originally posted by @Vincent Incopero:
@Warren,
I just closed on the purchase of a 10 unit in the 7600 block in Chatham. Doors are selling anywhere between 30 and 43
Can you tell me the cap rate at the time of purchase for the building and what you see as the avg in that neighborhood? Thanks.
Post: Chicago - Southside Market

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Warren,
I had a similar forum post that might help you if you look it up. I have spoken to lenders, property managers, and brokers in the area as well as done some research on individual neighborhoods. Welcome others input but the indications I first got were that neighborhoods in the southside but more towards the northern portion like Westlawn, bronzeVille, Washington Park and Jackson Park, were thought to be more upwardly trending than those a further south. Definitely block to block though in most areas. One of the bigger issues that I see with the area although people more immersed in it who live and work there were less concerned, is that there is a demographic outflow from the south side and there is a lot of crime. Laws also typically favor landlord, Illinois budget is in the dumps, and real estate taxes are projected to go up 10% for this year's assessment. That said Chicago is a very economically diverse area, with the right due diligence and number crunching I think there's good opportunity there and it still on my list of locations as an investment. I however was looking at larger multi family buildings.
Post: What are the best and worst Chicago south side sub markets?

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Mike
Thanks for article. It is definitely a concern and I am looking at a couple other markets as well. I also am trying to be very conservative in my analysis of each property I review, and researching as much as I can before I go out and walk neighborhoods and properties in person. I am trying to focus on areas which are stable and have good growth anchor points like the Obama Library. I also have been considering the macroeconomic forces of Chicago which to me indicate it won't go the way of Detroit, that it can be a good opportunity to get into a market early in a turn around, and I have some albeit historical familiarity there when I lived there. Nothing is set in stone, all part of my due diligence.
Appreciate the insight. Thx.
Post: What are the best and worst Chicago south side sub markets?

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Originally posted by @Jeff Burdick:
Originally posted by @Mike H.:
Crime in Chicago is actually trending down over the last 15 years.
http://crime.chicagotribune.com/
Jeff,
Thanks for those fantastic links to real data. A great help for me to narrow down specific neighborhoods that have had historical increasing income as well as some population growth in the long term. Also Key to identify neighborhoods that had historical negative trends.
Michael
Post: Taxing of Capital Expenditure Funds in LLC

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Quick, I hope additional question on figuring out the right amount of cap reserves to hold per month. I see lots of per unit figures in the range of $250-$400, but when I account for all the things that cap reserves will need to buy in the coming 8ish years like flooring, refrigerator, hvac, oven, dishwasher, microwave, fixtures, water heater, etc...I always come up with a figure ($500-$700) that is quite a bit more than anyone else seems to use. I add up all the expenses, divide the total by 8 years and then again by 12 months. This does not even account for 20-30 yr items like roof, windows, structure that will last longer than my time horizon. What am I doing wrong? Or am I right and I just need to allocate based on my understanding? Thanks for the thoughts.
Post: What are the best and worst Chicago south side sub markets?

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thanks for all the thoughts, factoring them into my research.
Trying to narrow down locals into anchors/hubs in this regard, like the Presidential library, Mariano's, and UofC. Any others people know of?
Post: Looking for new PM in NOVA

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Ben, I have a SFR in Herndon and use McEnearney property management, which I have been happy with.