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All Forum Posts by: Donovan H.

Donovan H. has started 8 posts and replied 26 times.

Post: Owes 48K Rents for $1200 a month.

Donovan H.Posted
  • Residential Landlord
  • Flat Rock, MI
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 5

It's also a lot harder to find insurance for student rentals. It seems as if insurers hang up on you when you mention "student" and "rental".

Post: Insurance when you have students renting?

Donovan H.Posted
  • Residential Landlord
  • Flat Rock, MI
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 5

I'm having a hard time finding ANY company that's willing to sell me insurance for a rental property that I'm close to closing on. I know there has to be a number of members here who rent to students. Which companies do you use? How do I get my property insured? The students are occupants already and it is close to campus, so students may or may not be continually renting here. If I don't mention that it's students who are already there, I feel the policy would void if there was an issue.

Post: Doing your first deal

Donovan H.Posted
  • Residential Landlord
  • Flat Rock, MI
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 5

I started contemplating and talking about buying rentals last year ... Leisurely reading articles on the subject. I became much more serious about it after my tax returns (March) this year. After a few months of research, reading, and lurking here ... I decided to make the jump. I have a pretty solid-looking duplex closing next week off of a short sale! It's a bit of a student housing fixer-upper, but it hasn't been vacant in years (and current occupants already asking to renew) and brings in hefty rent for little starting capital.

Post: Possible first deal ...

Donovan H.Posted
  • Residential Landlord
  • Flat Rock, MI
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 5

The comps in the area have been all over the place. A similar duplex went for only $33k down the street (which rents for $750/unit). A much smaller SFH went for $41k. The market in this particular area is a bit hard to read in that regard.
As for tenants, it's an off-campus college housing area. I wouldn't expect tenants to stay for more than a 2-3 years in a normal situation. This particular occupancy is a bit different. They almost treat it like a fraternity (it's not). They open up the duplex and treat it like one house. When someone graduates or leaves, they recruit others themselves to keep the rent/occupant low. From what the occupants have told me, they've been doing this (aka no vacancy) as long as anyone can remember.
I plan on paying cash for purchase, then refinancing my cash back out when appropriate. The bank has mentioned "off the record" that it's going to take $40k to get the property. I'm willing to go that high. The income potential, to me, outweighed the other formulas for purchase price. I was just seeing what others here would say/do.
The main fixes are roof (a reputable company is running a special right now for $5k) and a wet basement. My father is a homebuilder and journeyman carpenter. We found the source of the wet basement and it's a very cheap, easy fix (not common with wet basements!). The front porch needs some work, but we can handle it. The wood shingle siding needs repainting. The two smaller furnaces probably need replacing within 5 years. Due to the work involved, I do not plan on taking out ANY of the positive cash flow for the first year to build up a buffer.

Post: Possible first deal ...

Donovan H.Posted
  • Residential Landlord
  • Flat Rock, MI
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 5

I'm currently looking at a 2100 sq ft duplex within walking distance to the local university. It's a short sale listed at $45k. It's an older building (1920's) and needs some work (est. $5k in immediate fixes, another $5k in fixes that can wait). It's currently rented for $900 per unit, occupants pay all utilities, and property taxes run $2k/yr. During an initial walkthrough, the occupants were available and expressed interest in renewing the lease. Tax assessment was $35k in 2010. Listed (but pulled) at sheriff's auction with an valuation of $65k last month. The area is pretty typical college town. I fully expect higher turnover costs because of this. My plan is to buy and hold. This is the "crown jewel" duplex in the area. Comps run anywhere from $14 to $20 per sq ft. I offered $32k, but it was not accepted. Highest and best was requested.

What should my next offer be? Should I even make a second offer? The income potential is intriguing.

Post: Hello everyone! New member SE MI & N OH

Donovan H.Posted
  • Residential Landlord
  • Flat Rock, MI
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 5

My name is Donovan and this is my first foray into RE investment. I'm a University of Toledo grad living in SE Michigan. My current goal in RE is to get a few buy & hold properties and see where this leads me. I've been "lurking" on this site for a few months now. I thought it may be time for a proper introduction!