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All Forum Posts by: Thom H.

Thom H. has started 2 posts and replied 80 times.

Post: THE Thread on the Final GOP Tax Bill - Q&A

Thom H.Posted
  • Investor
  • Central Virginia Area, VA
  • Posts 80
  • Votes 28

I've read through this entire post, and it's fantastic. Thank you to all who posted. 

There's one quick question that I don't find fully explained (at least I hope I didn't miss it).  I understand the 20% pass through is based on taxable income (net Schedule E amount). Is it yet understood whether the new 20% pass through deduction will occur at the Schedule E level or post AGI as a deduction on page two of the 1040 form? Just trying to understand if the 20% is "above line calculation" (included in calculating AGI) or "below line"? This could be important in calculating MAGI in 2018 for ACA subsidy calculations for some. Thanks in advance for any responses. 

Post: How Can My 1st RE Investment be in Multifamily/Apartments?

Thom H.Posted
  • Investor
  • Central Virginia Area, VA
  • Posts 80
  • Votes 28

@Hubert Washington

Yes. It took me a while to obtain financing. Without experience and collateral, banks are less than willing to talk in the beginning. In the end, I took a calculated risk, that may not be for everyone. I saved extra money, and made a larger than normal down payment, and used a combination of a private loan and a heloc to swing my first property deal. During that initial period, I learned a lot about alternative lending and asking for owner financing on deals. (And yes, I got turned down a lot, but it was all great experience. ) The more I worked at it, the better I got at negotiating, and eventually my next few deals were owner financed. Always listen closely to what sellers need from the deal. Structure your offers to help you and the seller, if possible. I typically make two or three offers at once on a property. At least one, almost always involves the seller providing financing for the deal, and is usually my best offer (structured heavily in my favor...better terms, rate, amortization period, etc.).  My lowest offer typically assumes I am getting the funding without seller assistance, since I'm taking all the risk to get the funds on my own. These type of offer(s) often tell me several things about the property (and the deal) when they respond. Whether they want out, whether they are willing to still have skin in the game (i.e. do they still have confidence in the property to make money...sometimes tells you a lot about the property itself), and sometimes it tells you just how low they are willing to go on price to just get out.  Now with much more experience under my belt, I typically use a couple of smaller regional banks for loans, but I still almost always ask about owner financing on deals.  Sometimes just to gauge the response, but you never know what you can structure unless you ask! By the way, a funny thing happens after your get a few years and properties under your belt, suddenly the banks start competing for your business. When you are still new at this game though, you have to be creative. 

Post: How Can My 1st RE Investment be in Multifamily/Apartments?

Thom H.Posted
  • Investor
  • Central Virginia Area, VA
  • Posts 80
  • Votes 28

Hubert,

Starting out in MF is not impossible, but like starting any business you have to be knowledgable, resilient (stubborn), or very lucky. And all three don't hurt! I started investing in MF right out of the gate too. Like you, I'd saved a good down payment, had a solid 9-to-5, a couple of kids eyeing college, good credit, and absolutely zero experience. My best advice is to read everything...a month is not enough. Prepare for at least six to twelve months...read it all! Absorb everything. At the same time, be totally honest with yourself. It's a business, and a lot of hard work no matter how many sexy "passive income" stories you hear.  Run purchase scenarios on every property you can research...do hundreds or even thousands of them.  It will help you gain experience without risking your nest egg just yet. Keep your day job (sorry). It helps when applying for loans. Use smaller, regional banks, but don't overlook owner financing.  Next network with anyone willing to talk to you...realtors, property managers, other investors, bankers, other owners, etc.. Look for owner financing, if you can't get banks to loan to you. Networking is great for this! There are always options, if you are truely willing to do the hard work to get there. Don't take "no" for an answer, but also know when to walk away if the numbers don't really work. Lastly, you will eventually just have to take the plunge...but give it six to twelve months to prepare better. My first property was a sixteen unit, a two eight unit (buildings) complex. I spent over a year preparing myself for that first purchase. That same year, I bought a small commercial rental (a mistake, but I'll leave that discussion for another day). Two years later, I bought a duplex. Less than another year later, another eight-plex. Since, I've bought two additional separate eight-plex properties, and I just signed a contract two weeks ago on a complex of twelve town homes, if counting, over fifty units in just under seven years. I tell you this not to just hear myself talk, as there are many bigger, better, smarter investors here on BP to get advice from. I tell you this to assure you that it can be done, but it is hard work. You must learn very quickly. You have to resist the naysayers in your life (they will eventually come around), and it definitely helps to have some luck on your side too! Best of luck Hubert. I hope you find much success.

You can do it starting in MF, if you want it bad enough.

Post: County assessors website

Thom H.Posted
  • Investor
  • Central Virginia Area, VA
  • Posts 80
  • Votes 28

Andrew, Not in the Central Virginia area (Lynchburg/Roanoke and surrounding areas). 

Post: New member from Lynchburg Virginia

Thom H.Posted
  • Investor
  • Central Virginia Area, VA
  • Posts 80
  • Votes 28

Welcome Matt. It's a great site, read and absorb everything you can here. There is a ton of fantastic information on the site.  Lynchburg can seem like a tough market, but it is possible to find deals, they just tend to be a little fewer and farther between. If I can ever be of assistance don't hesitate to holler! Best of luck! -Thom

Post: Just Joined BP!

Thom H.Posted
  • Investor
  • Central Virginia Area, VA
  • Posts 80
  • Votes 28

@Thomas Clark 

Welcome to BP. It's a great site to begin learning about RE investing. You can search the site for all kinds of topics on buy-and-hold investing and multi-family real estate, if that's where your interest lies. If you can't find info on a particular topic, you can always just ask questions on the forums. There are also a growing number of folks on the site in Virginia, that can help you as well. Jump in and start learning, good luck investing and again welcome!

Post: Meetup: Virginia: Roanoke, Salem, Vinton, Blacksburg, Christiansburg, Pulaski

Thom H.Posted
  • Investor
  • Central Virginia Area, VA
  • Posts 80
  • Votes 28

@Stephanie W. Sounds great Stephanie. Thanks for considering the other side of Roanoke. I'm hoping you get some responses from the Lynchburg, Virginia side to make it worthwhile. If not, I may still try to join you in Salem from time to time if you don't mind. I'll keep check on this post should anything change with the January meet up date. Thanks for responding. Wishing all a safe holiday!

Post: Meetup: Virginia: Roanoke, Salem, Vinton, Blacksburg, Christiansburg, Pulaski

Thom H.Posted
  • Investor
  • Central Virginia Area, VA
  • Posts 80
  • Votes 28

@Stephanie W. Please keep me posted on your plans to start up an REI group on 1/15/15 in Salem. I don't know (yet) if I will be able to make it, but I will try. Salem is a good drive from Amherst, so I don't know if I could join on a regular basis, but I have been looking for a local REI group for some time, so very interested. Would love to meet you all and share in an exchange of REI knowledge. If you happen to find a number of interested folks on the Bedford/Lynchburg side, it might be worth considering a future meeting at the Bedford Applebee's on Rt 460E side...just a thought to possibly expand the interest. There were several folks on BP a year or so ago trying to get some momentum for an REI startup in Lynchburg, but I don't think it gained enough traction. Hoping there may still be some interest. Thanks again, for initiating a group in Salem.

Post: I quit my job today

Thom H.Posted
  • Investor
  • Central Virginia Area, VA
  • Posts 80
  • Votes 28

@Glenn McCrorey Outstanding! I can only imagine how good this day must feel for you. I can tell from your initial post, that your former co-workers (...you've really got to love saying that!...) can't even begin to understand where you are today, but you and your family understand, and that's all that matters! I am truly impressed by your story and can greatly appreciate your action to leave the corporate world. Many trials and tribulations are now behind you, and you deserve all that is now coming your way for your hard work and perseverance. Congratulations and well deserved! I have a similar perspective, as I am right on your heels with the same decision, so I'm naturally inspired. Most will never understand the hard work, sacrifices, risks, and stress that comes with building a successful business of 28 units from the ground up. For those who do, just wanted to say great job and thanks for sharing your story. Again...a big congratulations!

Post: Buena Vista, Virginia

Thom H.Posted
  • Investor
  • Central Virginia Area, VA
  • Posts 80
  • Votes 28

Trevor, 

I imagine there are certainly fix-up opportunities in the area. It's a beautiful county. I own a couple of small tracks of land just off the Blue Ridge Parkway about 15 miles from Buena Vista. It is gorgeous. I built a small weekend cabin there in 2004.  We go up often to hike and hunt. The surrounding National Forests (George Washington and Jefferson) are wonderful treasures, especially this time of year!

If your dad is a contractor, you have a great built-in partner to help you get started. Best of luck! -Thom