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All Forum Posts by: Maurice George

Maurice George has started 4 posts and replied 113 times.

Originally posted by @Minna Reid:

Sure - it's possible. But there's not enough information here to determine whether you should. Even if the owners agree to sign title over to you if you pay the taxes, all other liens against the home will still be outstanding and they will now be your problem if you want to keep the property. Also - odds are - if there is a mortgage, that lender will go ahead and just pay the taxes and add it to the homeowners balance. The lender wont let the house foreclose. 

 I guess OP needs to learn something called sub-to. 

Originally posted by @Jack Bobeck:

@Cody Lewis That is the problem - This realtor wanted a signed agreement in exchange for a "relationship". I don't sign relationships for 3% of my wealth. You have to EARN a relationship. You bring me deals, I do deals with you. You bring me opportunities and SHOW me you are worth it, I can sign the paper, but NOT BEFORE YOU SHOW ME YOUR VALUE.

@Minna Reid This is exactly the short-sightedness that many agents have when working with "people", its either my way or the highway. Bring us deals, options, its sales 101 you don't get a guaranteed 3% on a deal just because you have a license and can breathe in a mirror. You are a professional, act like one, if you have an investor, sit them down and explain to them what you expect from them and they can expect from you. Its all in how you present yourself to your "prospective clients", but no investor, no client is going to work with an unproven agent who says "sign my paperwork or find someone else". 

@Ronald Allen Barney - I used to be married to a Realtor, I can pull MLS data, scrub it and do exactly what you describe, on my own. But that is where some of the "realtor" value comes into play. I'm not a Realtor, so I don't have access to that MLS data, but there are 11,000 in my area, so chances are good someone will want to work with me, in exchange for the "homes" data in an area.

@Jon Thompson Its sales, you bring me a deal, I will go with you on the deal. If I find the deal, I can choose to use you or not, why would I pay someone 3% when I did all the leg work? Bring me deals to EARN your 3%, too many agents feel like they are entitled to a payment for you to be in real estate. 

@Nick Macklin - Well said - Bring me the deal, I can work with you at that time. 

 By the way Jack, based on my gut feeling of your standard of "deal", I bet you I will want $50K wholesale fee for a 300K property. 

Originally posted by @Jack Bobeck:

@Cody Lewis That is the problem - This realtor wanted a signed agreement in exchange for a "relationship". I don't sign relationships for 3% of my wealth. You have to EARN a relationship. You bring me deals, I do deals with you. You bring me opportunities and SHOW me you are worth it, I can sign the paper, but NOT BEFORE YOU SHOW ME YOUR VALUE.

@Minna Reid This is exactly the short-sightedness that many agents have when working with "people", its either my way or the highway. Bring us deals, options, its sales 101 you don't get a guaranteed 3% on a deal just because you have a license and can breathe in a mirror. You are a professional, act like one, if you have an investor, sit them down and explain to them what you expect from them and they can expect from you. Its all in how you present yourself to your "prospective clients", but no investor, no client is going to work with an unproven agent who says "sign my paperwork or find someone else". 

@Ronald Allen Barney - I used to be married to a Realtor, I can pull MLS data, scrub it and do exactly what you describe, on my own. But that is where some of the "realtor" value comes into play. I'm not a Realtor, so I don't have access to that MLS data, but there are 11,000 in my area, so chances are good someone will want to work with me, in exchange for the "homes" data in an area.

@Jon Thompson Its sales, you bring me a deal, I will go with you on the deal. If I find the deal, I can choose to use you or not, why would I pay someone 3% when I did all the leg work? Bring me deals to EARN your 3%, too many agents feel like they are entitled to a payment for you to be in real estate. 

@Nick Macklin - Well said - Bring me the deal, I can work with you at that time. 

Jack, I guess that agent has her concerns as well. If she brings you a "fair" deal (just slightly below than on market ones), would you gonna buy it? No. You probably wanna pass and she wasted her time Or she brings you a fantastic lead but you need to negotiate with five lien holders. Would you gonna do it? You probably not. 

There is nothing wrong to "Bring deal to me first", but she does not know you are kind of buyer will buy.  

Which mortgage company?  PHH/Nationstar/Celink/Reverse Mortgage Solutions? Each one will be different. 

Post: Wholesaling with reverse mortgage

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Originally posted by @Brett Goldsmith:

@Carl Bo Smith Let me know if you have questions. They want 95% of appraised value for short sales with reverse mortgages. Typically you are not allowed to assign short sale contracts so wholesaling short sales. I wanted to mention this as your post mentioned wholesaling but it was unclear if you wanted to buy this for yourself. 

 Even if you close a reverse mortgage short sale deal, it is still not a good idea to immediately resell it. 

Originally posted by @Wayne Brooks:

The foreclosure and REO process with a reverse mtg is essentially the same as any other mtg. They get foreclosed on the same exact way. If there is equity, there is no short sale. As a short sale, or as an REO, a RM property Must be sold for 95% of a current FHA appraisal. This is the only way the lender gets reimbursed by the HUD insurance on the loan. The lender will pay for the appraisal in the event of the borrower's death.

 Wayne is exactly right here. 95% appraisal value is the rule lender must take because this is the only way lender will get reimbursed for the difference. However, most of time, reverse mortgage short sale appraisal will be an interior and exterior appraisal. They will appraise fairly. 

Originally posted by @Greg H.:

The inventory has been depleted due to the foreclosure moratorium as most of the current inventory is reverse mortgage foreclosures 

Additionally, there is no inventory in the Denver Region(Midwest and Southwest) as there is a dispute over who won the bid to be the new Asset Manager for the region. Until that is settled, there is no inventory. Texas historically has had 150-200 listings at any given time and currently has zero

Greg, the second paragraph is the exact thing I am talking about. Do you have any public information available on this "dispute", just curious. 

Hello folks, 

It looks like HUD removed inventories on HudHomestore.com due to HUD will get a new assets manager. It has been over two months and inventories are still unavailable. What happened? When would inventories back on hudhomestore.com?

Thanks. 

Post: Short sale seller concession question

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Originally posted by @Mike Moran:

@Maurice George Banks can only forclose on the property not personal property, so that is why you can get it done that way. Probably not gonna work for 10k for blue toothbrush left in the guest bathroom, but lawn tractor and gardening equipment, appliances, even window coverings, excluded in sale. Can be purchased, and added in an addendum so they show on hud.

 Mike, thanks for your answer. I do not know have you ever done this kind of deal? How do you handle this situation?  So purchase of personal properties must be disclosed to the bank in an addendum? Does this need to be on HUD1 as well or It does not need to show on HUD1? The seller in this case do have a lot of furniture, clothing, and other stuff in the property. It will not be 10K though, but only like 3K tops. 

Post: Short sale seller concession question

Maurice GeorgePosted
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Originally posted by @Minna Reid:

I suggest you find a different "experienced short sale person" to advise you. 

First of all - you will never get a short selling lender that doesn't allow concessions, to allow concessions in the guise of buying the sellers stuff.

Second - You can certainly buy any personal property you want from anyone, but none of that will end up on a purchase contract ever, especially if you're trying to get a loan for this property. 

Third - who told you seller concessions are not allowed in reverse mortgages? HUD can be weird about seller concessions in a short sale, but there is no solid 100% no concessions ever rule.

I guess the question is - why are these concessions so important? Do you need closing cost assistance, or are you trying to get extra money into the sellers pocket? Its unclear.

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