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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 4 posts and replied 19 times.

Post: Old Wood floors - Replace - refinish ? Keep ?

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  • Menomonie, WI
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  • Votes 12

I would keep the floors they look good.  Also depends who you intend to rent to and the pet policy.  If allowing pets I'd go with something more durable like vinyl planking .  Also some of the old poly can really clog up the sanding drum  and you may have to hand scrap the old poly off.   

Post: Vacant Property without HVAC - How to keep pipes from freezing

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  • Menomonie, WI
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Defiantly want to take the time and make sure you do it correctly.  Also be thinking about other systems in the house that may have plumbing besides the water supply.

For example, older houses in the Midwest have hydronic heating systems.  I purchased a bank owned property once and they did not get all the water out of the system before the freeze (lucky bought at a big discount).  Long story short, I ended up replacing a cracked boiler block, a radiator, and a couple of sections of cold water piping to the bathrooms even when the place was supposedly winterized.    

Post: Zillow Home Value Index Accuracy

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  • Menomonie, WI
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  • Votes 12

I have always taken the zillow zestimates with a half grain of salt as they are not accurate at all.  What I am curious about is the accuracy of the zillow home price index too?

At the early months of the pandemic, zillow's index was was showing prices had drop -2% over a year (even accounting for 2019) and were forecasted to go down -4% 1 year into the future.  

Now all of a sudden within the last 6 weeks zillows home price index totally changed and there was no dip in prices and the forecast is positive going into the future (quite high 8%)???


In everyone's opinion is this accurate?  Are their any other home price index's to compare it too?

Post: Officially took the plunge Zero to 10

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  • Menomonie, WI
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  • Votes 12

Nice work, This will defiantly get you into the fast lane.  

Post: BRRRR Student Rentals in W. Cen Wisconsin after 5 years analysis

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  • Menomonie, WI
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5 years ago this month I embarked on my journey into real estate investing by purchasing my worst deal to date (Needed way too much work and went over budget). From that time on I have purchased 8 properties and renovated them. Most were winners, 1 or 2 losers, but what I would like to share are the indicators for strong returns.

Before all this I had a plot of land I was going to build a house on but determined that to be financial suicide. I would be paying for interest, property taxes, and insurance out the ying yang and maybe breaking even if I sold the house 30 years later with average appreciation. Instead I took my funds and began a hybrid method of house flipping called BRRR, but instead of selling the house and being highly taxed you hold it and rent it out.

The top 5 indicators are, and if you come across a house with all 5 you better buy it sight unseen, or tell me about it: (this excludes mobile homes & section 8). Also doing self management and planning to hold units for 20+ years.

1. COC > 15%

2. Cap Rate >10%

3. Before purchase you have determined the rehab cost, the 15 year CAPex forecast cost, and how much sweat equity is possible. The sweat equity must be greater than 15 years projected Capital expenditures (new roof, siding, window, ect). 

4. (Rehab cost/sweat equity) ratio > 70% 

5. (Rehab cost/(sweat equity + 15 year capex cost)) ratio > 50% 

5 years after my worst purchase I bought my best deal to date during the covid lockdown (closed via drive up window at bank). The rehab cost was only 25K which generated 40K sweat equity and raised rents from $1925 to $2500. I knew it was such a good deal that I offered full asking price without even looking at the property beforehand, but had a hefty inspection clause.

Looking forward to another 5 years of hunting for deals and hopefully not a housing crash. Though if a crash does come I wouldn't care with strong COC returns. Also I plan on turning my focus to less overturn units than the student rentals and more long term units as the June 1st turnover period is getting crazy busy.


If you want to become a Student Rental Landlord prepare for the negatives, but beware of the positives. You'll get the late night phone calls when someone has locked themselves out. You're tenants may stuff disposable wipes down the toilet and cause a sewage back flow, A brick way go though your window, a door kicked in. You may rehab a house into such a nice condition that you are ready to move in yourself but you don't and rent it out to someone that gives you a one star rating on google and calls your house trash and you horrible for not dealing with the inter tenant fights. Friends and family may tease you and call you a slumlord just to stir the pot of something that they do not totally understand themselves or have no idea the long hours and cost you have put into a piece of property. No pet polices are not followed and a dog as chewed on some nice 100 year old vintage woodwork. You play nice guy and lower the rent to a struggling group that hasn't paid their $2500 excel bill or $1000 water bill but you don't evict and Subsidize their living. You get threaten to be taken to court because you didn't pay back the security deposit which the security deposit transmittal states exactly why. Oh yea and the positive, your net worth increases 572% over 5 years, and the cashflow from your rentals is greater than your living expenses. Cheers!

Post: When to go full time REI

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  • Menomonie, WI
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 12

This is a great youtube video on the subject:  in YouTube search type "Quit Your Job For Real Estate?"

Phil in it says, "it's great to have a job."  I agree, it's all about time management.  I have acquired 3 more rentals since starting this post and it is all about time management and becoming creative.  Though if I do keep on acquiring more rentals I'm going to have to find more creative ways or work myself into an early grave lol.  

Post: When to go full time REI

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  • Menomonie, WI
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I have considered getting a full time real estate position.  Even when I was on layoff I took the national home inspectors exam, passed, and got certified as a housing inspector in Wisconsin.  I haven't done any home inspections for real estate transactions, but it kind of builds character as a landlord when your tenants know you're a certified home inspector (things get taken care of). 

Full time property management may be more to my liking, but I do like watching over my own properties rather than others.  So maybe I just need to buy more and that'll keep me busy.   

I don't think I could be a real estate agent or broker, the sales end is just not to my liking.  I also want a return on my investment for my bachelor's degree in construction management, and staying in that field justifies that.  The construction industry is tireless most times.  lots of travel and relocation, getting burned on projects, office politics, ect.  I think I will last another 5 years until I have just have had enough lol. 

Post: When to go full time REI

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  • Menomonie, WI
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Well I did get a new job as a Project Manager for an Electrical Contractor in the Twin Cities on January, 7 2019, and that layoff was a wake up call. I was super bored, and now being back in the work force I find purpose, something to wake up and do. I have had to re-think this leaving the 9-5 for full time REI, I mean I could be remodeling rentals all day long, but that's trading one job for another.

So for now slow and steady as she goes, and we'll see what happens in the next 5 years.      

Post: When to go full time REI

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  • Menomonie, WI
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I started investing in student rentals 3 years ago to escape the 9-5 at the age of 33.  My strategy was to invest in below market value properties that cashed flowed strong ($3500/month cashflow currently).  I would dream of the day I would give my boss the 2 week notice and my cashflow was double my W-2 pay or I had a net worth close to 1 million USD.   

Unfortunately I was laid off on 8/29/18 and didn't quite make my goal.  Also at the very same time I was in the middle of refinancing all my properties (5 houses with total 30 bedrooms) a week before being let go from my employer(Good timing).  I was able to pull out $125k of equity, but now that my loan officer knows I don't have W-2 employment I can not acquire anymore portfolio commercial loans.  

My biggest question I have got is if I should find future employment for another 2-5 years, or just let time add onto my net worth?  I have put a spreadsheet together that details my numbers.  With zero rental vacancies and living frugally, I will have a 1 million net worth at the end of 2026 (this takes in account that my real estate appreciate 3% each year and I have my cash reserves in a high interest savings of 1.9%).   If I found a $60k per year job, I could get to a net worth of 1 million 3 years early in 2023.

This is speculation on my end so who knows where things could go but I do have good cash reserves in case the road gets rocky.  Let me know if now is the time to go full time DIY landlord or get employment.  I was hoping to work another couple years, but actually I find it so much easier to manage my properties or go find new deals without a job.  Any feedback is appreciated.