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All Forum Posts by: Matt Ruttenberg

Matt Ruttenberg has started 12 posts and replied 107 times.

Post: Has anyone moved their 401K to a self directed real estate one?

Matt RuttenbergPosted
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  • Honolulu, HI
  • Posts 108
  • Votes 77
Quote from @Rochelle Gerber:

Just to clarify, are you saying I can put 69k a year into the 401? That would obviously be the route to go. 
is there a limit to how much of the account you can use to invest? Say, I bring 250,000 or 500,000, how much or what percentage is useable? 
and if the 401 “makes” more than 69,000 based on investment returns is that fine ? 


 There is more to the formula on how much you can bring in, assuming you're self-employed.

If you're an S-Corp, you can do the 23k as an employEE, then an additional 25% of your salary on top of that, with a maximum of $69k total.  I own a custom 401k administration company if you have more questions.

Post: What creative financing method would you use in my situation?

Matt RuttenbergPosted
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  • Honolulu, HI
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Quote from @Andrew Montgomery:

I just turned 50, I've worked a great W2 for 26 years in tech sales/mgmt and managed to save $3M across 401k ($2M) and Stocks ($1M). I want out of the W2 world but the golden handcuffs (and 3 teenagers) keep me tethered. My wife and I bought our first STR in April (Smokies) and it's going well but we realize we want to start focusing on single or multi-family. I've spoken with my financial advisor and ran the numbers where spending 5 more years in my W2 sets us up for the future but it's taking all my attention and I can't focus on real estate, plus I'm miserable. So, I'm now considering working 1 more year and during that time, ramping up into several multi-families and eventually owning 10 doors over the next 3 years. I know we won't come close to covering our living expenses of around $130k per year initially but I need to make a change. I want to avoid dipping into my retirement because I've run the numbers and even just pulling out $500k for down payments absolutely kills the compound interest and makes a material impact on future net worth.

So if you were in my position, how would you use creative financing to build up to 10 properties in the next 3 years and not sell stock or touch retirement? 


If you or your husband open up a business, you can roll your 401k into a self-directed solo 401k.  I'm a 401k administrator if you want to jump on a call with your advisor and I to go over that option.

Post: What Are You Choosing For Liquidity

Matt RuttenbergPosted
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  • Honolulu, HI
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Quote from @Kylie A.:

To all the millionaires out there, where do you think is the best place to put your money to let it grow while still being able to pull it out when needed? Personally, I prefer being able to access my money without penalties since it's mine. Do you favor a Roth IRA, high-yield savings account, or life insurance as an investment tool? How do you balance growth and liquidity?


 I would say millionaire is slightly a loose term, but I think that's somewhat a loaded question.  Are you a business owner, real estate investor, all of the above?  Maybe a little more clarity on your situation.

I work with mostly high net worth business owners, and we use different plans to keep it on their balance sheet.  Life Insurance is a good tool when paired with other strategies.

Post: My Cash Isn’t Liquid

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Quote from @Jessica Fish:

I have about $60K in 401(K) accounts and approximately $100K in equity in my home. I want to invest but I don’t have any liquid cash besides what is in these accounts. I am not against taking money from 401K for real estate as long as my rate of return in real estate is higher. I’m concerned that $60K ($50K after penalties) won’t get me far in starting a short term rental though… I’m also hesitant to do a cash out refinance on my home loan because we have a great interest rate at 2.625%. Does anyone have any tips or advice for getting started in my current circumstances?

I would probably lean towards a loan against the 401k, but not liquidating it.  You'll be able to take out half of your vested balance though, so not a ton.

If you liquidate it, you're going to have to pay 10% (assuming you're under 50 years old) + taxes owed if it's pre-tax.

So maybe a combination of the two using a HELOC on the equity.

Is the 401k in the Roth portion by any chance?

Post: Employer does not match 401k - should I invest?

Matt RuttenbergPosted
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  • Honolulu, HI
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Quote from @Ryan Rabbitt:

Hey BP Community - My employer does not match 401k contributions so I'm considering abandoning the contributions altogether and instead investing in something like the SPY ETF on a regular basis. I'm curious if anyone else has tried this approach and to hear your thouhgts. I can no longer contribute to a ROTH IRA and am looking for ways to accumulate more liquidity long-term to continue purchasing rental properties. I have a small real estate portfolio and a long investing horizon as I'm in my early 30s.

Thoughts on why to stop 401k:

- no match benefit

- returns are very low avg. annual ~5.5% last 3 years net of fees

- can only borrow up to 50k from 401k 

- limited access to capital until retirement age 

Thoughts on why it could be good to invest in ETFs or general securities example instead(SPY) :

- higher returns 9% avg annual last 3 years net of fees 

- access to capital - securities backed line of credit (could be used as another form of liquidity to continue purchasing real estate) 

- long-term mitigated tax liability - if you never sell the underlying securities and instead use the line of credit as a form of liquidity to purchase assets

It seems like this could be a long-term strategy with limited tax liability. I don't hear many people talking about this as an alternative if your employer is not matching 401k and you want to be more active in your investing approach long term. Do you think this could be a good strategy where are the pitfalls here? 


 Im a 401k administrator, I'm curious why the returns are low?  Who is the record keeper it's invested with?  Is there no way to make changes to the plan.

If it's a smaller business, you should be able to ask them to add additional index funds inside the plan.

Ill explain a setup that my CPA told me to do, and then you can decide if you want to touch base.  I have a similar setup, but not for real estate, so it might not be 100% relevant.

1) My partner and I set up a Partnership (ill tell you why next).  2) Then each of us set up S-Corporations, which is also owned by our wive's (could be owned by a trust for further protection, but I haven't).

The reason we did a Partnership is for two reasons 1) You don't have to abide by the ownership % for your distributions (mostly), and 2) it can be owned by another corporation (S-corp can't).

Again, this isn't for real estate, and could change because it's passive versus active income, but with our personal S-Corps, we can set up different strategies that i won't get into here.

Feel free to reach out and I can introduce you to him.  

Post: LIVE WEBINAR!!! Advanced 401k Strategies for High-Income Business Owners

Matt RuttenbergPosted
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Learn how a custom-designed retirement plan can help business owners with profits of $250k+ save up to $100,000 or more in annual tax savings!

Post: Tax planning real estate

Matt RuttenbergPosted
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  • Honolulu, HI
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Quote from @Zachary Reiff:

Hello, I am looking for personal referrals for a tax planning CPA firm. I do not need filing necessarily but rather total planning and strategy. Thank you


Hey Zachary,

I'm not a CPA, but I work with a bunch of them as I'm a 401k administrator.  If you want, we can connect and I can see which ones might be a good fit.  

But in the meantime, here is a phenomenal podcast you might want to listen to: https://www.taxsavingspodcast.com/.

Most in depth tax podcast I've listened too.  But full disclosure, I've been a guest on there multiple times.  The host owns a accounting firm, and a software called TaxElm that be what you need on it's own.

Feel free to touch base if you want an opinion on a few others.

Post: Need a CPA, or CRTP,

Matt RuttenbergPosted
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Quote from @Will Seaman:

Hey 

My name is Will, I need a tax pro to help me with tax preparations. Both personal and business taxes. I need someone to use on a continuous basis and build a business relationship with. I live in Ca, do RE business in Wisconsin and North Carolina. Location does not matter, however local to southern CA is a plus. 

Hey @Will Seaman, I would definitely look into a tax professional that goes beyond tax prep. 

I'm a 401k administrator and see lots of clients come in who are missing out on basic deductions and credits because the tax preparer "doesn't look up" if you know what I mean.  Some accountants simply don't have the bandwidth for it.  

I have a number of contacts you could work that would be helpful.  Feel free to reach out if you'd like an intro.

Post: JOIN OUR WEBINAR: Only 1 week left for a Safe Harbor 401k!

Matt RuttenbergPosted
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  • Honolulu, HI
  • Posts 108
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With only one week left, we invite you to join our final webinar prior to the Safe Harbor deadline window closing for 2024, hosted by Matt Ruttenberg, Plan Design Expert and Co-Owner of Life, Inc. Retirement Services.

As the October 1st deadline approaches, and a 45-60 day onboarding, it’s crucial to consider the advantages of a Safe Harbor 401k plan for maximizing 2024 contributions, and whether it is a good fit for your business.

Why Attend Our Webinar?

In this session, Matt will delve into:

  • What is a Safe Harbor 401k: Learn how it can simplify compliance and offer substantial tax advantages..
  • Safe Harbor 401k Options: Explore the different Safe Harbor 401k plans tailored to meet your business needs.
  • How it ties together: Learn how a Safe Harbor 401k ties in to more advanced plan designs to allow for higher contribution limits.

Don’t miss this opportunity to make an informed decision that could enhance your company's benefits and secure its financial future before the deadline expires.

All who register will receive a recording of the webinar afterwards.

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