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All Forum Posts by: Matthew Perry

Matthew Perry has started 12 posts and replied 120 times.

Post: I think I know how I wanna get starting...but not really?

Matthew PerryPosted
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  • Boston, MA
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Stick to what you feel comfortable with. There is no right way to do this thing we call real estate investing, it is more the best way which is whatever works for you. You have a good sized egg from which to start but the question is what happens if you lost 50% of it? 25% of it? 30% of it? All of these things come with different risks, but in truth it comes from what path you want to create for yourself. It sounds like you know exactly where you want to get to so I would stress one night just sitting down with a legal pad and at the bottom writing down where you want to be and then work from there and that is your plan. What I would do is different from what you would do, and there is not anything wrong with that at all. Sometimes it is best to just start small and watch a runaway snowball grow from that. 

Best of luck. 

Post: Direct Mailing Campaign

Matthew PerryPosted
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  • Boston, MA
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My answer to this is simple: authenticity. If your doing cards make sure your contact information is one there but also if you have one a website. A postcard is a great entry point but follow it up a week later with something else, a more detailed letter for example about you are, make it personalized to them from you, and that if they are interested in selling you want to buy it and how you could buy it. 

Post: Goal Setter, Goal Achiever, Millionaire.

Matthew PerryPosted
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Hello to All, 

I have been a passive BiggerPockets user for the last several years. I read the blogs, I read the topics, and the Qs/As. Yet, I feel terrible because I am not great at actually posting things which is something I want to get better at. I figured what better place to begin than at the very beginning.

I actually just turned 29 last week and a few days later my wife and I celebrated the birth of our first child. As I held my son for the first time I thought a lot about the journey that brought me to that exact moment. First of all, I have never held a 9 to 5 job. That is not me, that will never be me, I am just not wired in that way. I have too much kinetic energy to be stuck in one place for too long and want to be out moving around. Above all else though I love people and real estate. 

I feel in love with real estate in high school when my family moved to the Buckhead section of Atlanta and I looked at the world around me. It was as if my friends were all trying to play a game of one upmanship with each others' homes. I was stunned. I come from a middle class background- education and paralegal work are the world that parents knew not board rooms, mergers and acquisitions, and securing millions and millions of dollars for projects. That world was foreign to me, but I knew from there that it is what I wanted to do. So I setup shop at my local Barnes and Noble one day with a notebook and stacked up the first ten books they had on real estate investing. To this day, that first notebook is my bible and I am sometimes amazed it has held up over the course of the decade plus. I will touch on what I believe are the key takeaways from that in a second. 

I did not actually begin my first project until I was in college. I wanted to make sure I had a plan. Let me stress that A PLAN! My plan centered around where I was. The city where my college is was at one point in time the furniture capital of the world, but sadly the year before my freshman year one of the worst economic downturns this country has seen since the Great Depression struck, and places where I was calling home were the hardest hit. People were legitimately leaving their homes in the middle of the night or just letting the homes fall into such disrepair. Sadly this twist of fate created an opportunity I saw. My school was planning rapid growth in the next six years so much so there was a question of where would the student body live in my mind. Here was my first eureka moment. 

I want to pause here for a second for a deeper dive on everything I just touched on. I believe the best real estate projects are the ones where problems are solved for all involved. The problem here was a couple fold.

1) The city was looking a higher foreclosure rate on top of a higher rate of abandoned and dangerous properties. 

2) My university was looking at a housing shortage starting in a few years. 

Available housing for a problem on the horizon? That did not take long to see the answer. 

So I set off to begin to research the laws regarding abandoned properties and foreclosed or pre foreclosure homes in the state. I wanted to become an expert in this field. 

Here is my first piece of advice I want to offer, and it comes from notebook. Know what you do in fact, and do not act to know everything. I quickly learned the value of the answer "I do not know the answer to that, but I can get it to you shortly".  I do however want to express the high level of importance of knowing the crux of the information behind a project which I will touch on shortly. Anyone who has done a high number of projects, deals, or transactions, will tell you that learn something from each an every deal they do and while that is true I learned more on the first deal and there are more annotations in my notebook from progress on my first deal than any other project I have ever done. 

Part of my plan was knowing what my strengths and weaknesses are. I will humbly admit that I am awful at math. After simple addition, subtraction, long division, and multiplication I am no longer of any use. So I wanted to create a small team where specialization would become the secret to hopeful success of my first "project".  This concept is now what I base the majority of an interview with a potential hire for my team- in the form of a simple question- What can you teach me about? 

Example of a bad answer: I can teach you about project management. 

Example of a good answer: I can show you how project management can decrease your costs in the long run by budgeting specific resources at the right time, and how long term planning can increase your productivity over the course of the long and short run. 

Over ten years I still have the same numbers specialist and project management specialist in place. They are respecitvely my left and right hand. I understand and greatly appreciate the expertise that they bring to the table, and without question are the two most important members of my team.

I always tell first time developers that unless they have project in mind right away, look for a group, or team that they can join in there interim to learn something from. Pitch to that team exactly what it is you can bring to it and how you can help better than anyone else. Avoid using that language that is impossible to measure- such as you will hustle more anyone else, or that you will work harder than anyone else. Be creative. Think outside of the box. Yet, stay true to who you are as an individual. They might even help you when you find that first project you want to do. 

Now, lets step back into the plan part. I get frustrated when I hear real estate agents, developers, or even lenders say they want to make X amount of dollars. That can only be part of the plan, in fact that is simply the by product of the plan. The amount of money one wants to make is a goal, but a plan is the roadmap for how to achieve the goal. 

In my office there is a whiteboard, and on that whiteboard split into four columns. Each of those columns is a goal for 2019 and in each row of the column is another goal that is a checkmark to get to the bigger goal. These should be recited by heart, and affirmed every single day. 

Hypothetical: 

               Make 100,000$                                                                Project Growth

- 1 Project with Own Profit of 45,000                                  - 1 self funded flip

- 2 Projects with own combined profit of 30,000.            - 2 projects with purchase price of over 250k

- 3 Projects with own combined profit of 15,000.             - 3 projects with potential add on potential 

Naturally every single one of those goals could be tweaked to reflect whatever area a person is in or whatever their own personal goals. I do however recommend that the goals start small and build upwards. It is exceedingly rare, aka next to never for someone to get right into real estate and do multi million dollar projects from the get go. There is no shame in starting small. I laugh when I look back and realize what my first goals were:

1) Buy a new car with cash- 15,000 value

2) Pay for a semester of college tuition- 24,000 value

3) World Class European Graduation Vacation- 18,000 value. 

4) Save 15,000. 

Those four things when I first wrote them down seemed almost comical and I thought even if I achieved one of them I would be a happy person. One year late I had achieved all four. 

Now, the plan to put all those goals into action was a little harder to define, but again I wanted to start small. One house as a fix and hold. The hard part to explain is the amount of work that goes into one project. One project means x amount of potential homes, means y amount of appointments with various people, means z amount of conversations. I spoke with more asset managers at banks regarding foreclosures, and sent more letters to peoples homes offering to buy them than I can ever remember. Understand that there will be a lot of No's, hell no's, and not even interested in talking to which to say great thank you for you time. I spend no time on the people who say no. The ones I spend time on are the unsure and maybes. 100 conversations might lead to five meetings with people of which might lead to one yes, which at its face value is a 1% chance but that one is all that is needed. Here is why is it is so important to know exactly the type of project you are looking for and drill down from there. If you are looking for 1500 sq ft home with at least three beds and two baths- do not bother targeting 1200 sq ft homes with two beds and one baths. Why bother targeting it? Each home is an opportunity to be targeted just stay true to your board. 

In my first project that I purchased it took me a little over two months to find it, and actually buy it. This took a lot of going to different homes and evaluating them. Lots of discussions with different bank holding companies about different assets, and trips to city hall for rules on foreclosure. Finally I was able to convince a bank to sell me a property. To secure it I used both a semi-conventional loan and hard money lenders. I secured the hard money loan first, which I speak to at a later point in time, and then the semi conventional loan. It is important to know the numbers of each project, in the regard that each project might require a different structure for securing the loan, but never expect a perfect box to fit loans into. Simply put, the hard money loan secured the acquisition of the property with monthly payments each month with a balloon payment due when the property resold. The semi conventional loan was used to help make the monthly payments on the hard money loan and also the rehab portion. The purchase price was 110,000 and the rehab cost was additional 42,000 mostly for a new kitchen and bathroom fixtures. All told the total expense was for 152,000. I sold the property to a teacher at the school for 187,000. After all closing cost, repayment of the loans, and payments to my team owed were made I was left with a little less than 10,000 in profit for myself. I thought I had made it big time. 

From there it is a rinse and repeat formula, the same bank that I bought the first property from then sold me two more and from there I was off. I spoke with a lot of real estate agents in the area and put the word out I was looking to buy, and once word got out  I was in the market and was legitmate doors were flying open. Here lies the last part I want to make. Real estate is a show me industry sadly. Nobody cares about what you say you have done, people care about what you have done when you can show it. Banks in the area who were not returning my call suddenly were when I sent them my portfolio of what I was doing and had done. Do not be afraid to speak to your success. Let it snowball. After completion of your first deal more people should know about what you have recently done vs what you will be doing.  

Most people never give real estate a chance because they are too afraid for any different reason. Do not be afraid. Chase away the fear with a plan, goals, and knowledge. Arm yourself with those tools and there is zero limit to what you can achieve and what you can accomplish.

-Matt

Post: Metro Boston Converting to Fam to Condos

Matthew PerryPosted
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  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 125
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Its possible, but there will a ton of headaches involved. If the units are big enough to be converted into its something to consider. But if they are only going to be 1000 sq ft condos it may not be worth it. Also, you are going look at getting rezoned due the work with a lawyer to create a condo association. Look what would be created, come up with costs to make it a single unit those costs are going to be high, and then headaches associated with it then figure out what the comps in the area are and do the simple math.

Post: Why/how do wholesalers not actually own the house?

Matthew PerryPosted
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  • Boston, MA
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I agree with everything @David Dachtera just said. I have done a ton wholesale deals over the last couple years and it is exactly a case of I have created a contract and I am selling the contract more often than not for a small premium. Never once have I led with I got a deal at 123 45th St- its a three bedroom three bath unit anyone interested. Instead I go my network of investors who I have worked with an said I have an option or signed agreement to buy a property I got it at x% off any interest? Or if there are delicate laws I will take the property on myself and then sell an lease to sell option to an investor over the next year. Every problem has a solution just a question of how creative you are looking to be with it.

Post: Is your market saturated with wholesellers?

Matthew PerryPosted
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1) I think we are an equilibrium level of the real estate market right now nationwide. Now, that is based off pockets of areas all over the country where the market is slow and inventories are SL (slower and lower) and others where the market is nothing short of booming. Where prices have see a steep incline over the last couple of years i.e Atlanta- wholesaling is naturally going to see a huge uptick.

2) I love a good wholesale deal for a couple of reasons- one they provide an opportunity to negotiate and two they allow for more creativity in structuring a deal and how a deal gets done. While I do agree it is harder to do a deal from a far it is not entirely possible but that can be both a strength as well.

3) Openness and honesty is probably the most crucial aspect of any good wholesale deal, and anyone who is trying to play this game of real estate investing and decides that they are not going to be 100% honest across the board and try and sell something that is one when in reality is another thing altogether is not just hurting themselves they are hurting the next line of guys that comes down the line.

Post: 100 Wholesale and/or Option Deal Completed

Matthew PerryPosted
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  • Boston, MA
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Just finished my 100th wholesale or option deal. When I got into real estate investing I really thought that wholesaling and option deals were the voodoo of the investing world. I will now plant my flag and say not at all the case. Got into this game and I could not tell you the difference between a normalized bank or a HML and all I did was spend two hundred dollars on how to and knowledge books from my local Barnes and Noble. Used every single dollar of profit to fund buy and holds. There is no one recipe for we all chefs and what works for me may not work for you, but I am a strong believer in working hard in this game, not letting yourself get to far ahead, never getting down on yourself, learn from everything you do, ask questions, never be afraid to talk to someone, have fun! If you are not having fun you are not doing it right.

Hope everybody had a blessed Easter holiday.

Post: I closed on my first deal!

Matthew PerryPosted
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That is hard to tell at this point- too many moving pieces and too many unknown factors. As I said earlier rate shop and find the best deal for you and accomplishes what you would like to get out of it. Each deal will be different than the others offered. 

When I got started in real estate I was right around your age and about to get to married and walked away from 100k salaried job. My first thought was I am going to eat up and spit out in two weeks. So I went to a couple of REIA meetings and got a bunch of books and dumbed the learning process down to the simplest form. I had about 10k saved up and was really to risk figuring if things went South I could still keep going with life I feel like I gave it a shot. After a couple meetings and knowing the questions to ask and knowing more of what not to say instead of saying what to say I went to a developer and asked if I could help in anyway on his next project if I chipped in my 10k- a month later we were closing our first multifamily and a week later I am renting out the three units. I thought I had made it big time. Just under a year later we refinanced to cash out and moved on to the next deal. Besides living a moral and ethically right there is no right way to do this crazy thing we call real estate investing and it is about finding what you feel comfortable with and doing and then becoming the very best at it. Know your comfort zone is and work from there and then do not look back.

Post: I closed on my first deal!

Matthew PerryPosted
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  • Boston, MA
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@Walmsley Gedeon congrats and welcome to the world of professional real estate investing! Keep the timeframe of six months in your head for the refinancing so November or December would be a good time to go rate shopping and see what bank can offer you the best deal in terms of a rate for a refinance, line of credit, or whatever your ultimate end game is. Right now the focus though is on getting the units rented and generating cashflow for you ASAP, but congrats on the first deal. Onward and upwards