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All Forum Posts by: Matthew Hull

Matthew Hull has started 5 posts and replied 24 times.

Post: Is the 1% rule dead?

Matthew Hull
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So the 1% rule is just a way to filter down the many deals you might look at. It’s not a metric for knowing if the deal is going to fit your goals. Your performance goals are base on a bunch of factors.

Seems like the “buy box” is the real filter for most everyone. You figure out what kind of deals meet your investing goals and then you filter the opportunities within that framework. 

How are you all taking that first pool of opportunities and whittling it down to a manageable list to investigate further? Is it the buy box? Is it a particular cash flow goal? Is it an appreciation goal? Do you have simplified ratios or percentages you’re using to make quick decisions?

Post: Is the 1% rule dead?

Matthew Hull
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How are you filtering opportunities down to a manageable list if the 1% rule isn’t cutting it?

Post: Learning Autocad and Chief Architect - Where Can I Find Building plans?

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I would go to Autodesk.com and ask around the forums there. The people who can share those kinds of resources are the people doing the design and drafting work as their profession. 

Post: Where can I find building plans for a gutted multifamily built in the 1900s?

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If you have to submit plans for your build out, historic records aren’t going to get you permitted. You’ll need all the requisite licensed professionals providing new drawings of what you intend to do. Check with the building permit department about exact submission requirements and what work requires licensed designers and engineers.

If you’re just saying the survey cost of getting the existing building layout documented is too much, you might be able to get creative and avoid the costs, but it’s not a great bet to make. 

If it’s not penciling out doing it with professionals, this sounds like a deal you may not want to do. 

Post: Almost 2 years in and haven't made any money (via cashflow)

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Good point, @Jay Hurst. 😮

Post: Almost 2 years in and haven't made any money (via cashflow)

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Quote from @Steven DeMarco:
Quote from @Joe Villeneuve:
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I could see why you are concerned here, but if I was in your shoes, I'd try hold out as long as possible before jumping ship. 

My burning question- What do your operating costs consist of here? They seem high for what I am assuming to be a smaller sized property. What can you do to reduce these? Once you are able to increase your margins, I would try to pay down the mortgage as quickly as possible using whatever extra cash flow you can generate. Look at everything, from utilities, to landscaping, to property taxes etc to see where you can save. Your debt payments appear to be around $16.8K per year, not $24K, so I'm not sure where that figure is coming from, but once the mortgage is paid off, you'll have some more cash flow to play around with.

1031 exchange is always an option if you are really just done with this property and want to sell. I think all of the capital improvements you made will increase your basis too, but make sure to confirm with a tax professional on that.

The longer you hold out, the worse it gets.  Cut your losses, and move on.

Where I sit right now, if I were to cut my losses and sell, I'd be cementing the loss of over $100K. I've done an excellent job at meticulously tracking everything, so I feel comfortable with the "monitor closely to see what a stable asset looks like" strategy. But I value the different perspectives and would like to understand what led you to that conclusion more clearly.

There's no future here where I could get closer to breaking even? Why do you feel that way?

You're cementing your loses if you stay.  If you sell, you have a chance in your new properties to recover your loses in this one.  Stay and you will not only cement these loses, but add to them.  Don't fall in love with a property, fall in love with your money.

Thanks for the additional context. I think I'm starting to understand your view and can see why you are making this point.

Regardless of how I got to this point (i.e., investing $130K capital), how much am I benefitting from the current $45K of equity. If I can get back to "paying back" the $130K faster with another asset, then I should pursue that other asset.

I was thinking more cleanly within the lines of this specific property/investment. That almost doesn't matter. It's a matter of current value, current returns. And if there's anything better available to me. 

As a thought exercise, if I were to sell and take my $45K of equity and put it in an index fund earning inflation-adjusted 7% return, it would take 16 years for that to turn back into my original $130K. Not important for the numbers/math to be perfect, but more of a line of thinking.

Am I on the right track here?


The thing is, you could take that $45k and leverage it with multiple deals to regain that $130K in 1, 2, or 3 years. It’s a numbers game and a leverage game.

For example, you could split that $45k into two (properly analyzed) deals, leveraged with smart financing, and then refinance after rehab, cash out your equity, cash flow the properties, and carry on with more deals using the equity you extracted. Let’s pretend you create $80k of equity you can extract from each property ($160k total) - now you’re on your way to a much faster “recovery” than sitting on it or investing in a 7% stock.

There are even ways to keep that $45k and leverage other people’s money to make the same returns. 

Read “Real Estate Deal Maker” by Henry Washington. It’s super insightful.

But as you’ve ascertained, the deal must pencil out. Analyze rigorously and don’t do a deal that doesn’t meet the metrics. 

Post: Almost 2 years in and haven't made any money (via cashflow)

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The ebbs and flows of business include losses, even big losses. I like @Mike Dymski's perspective. Move forward and keep building. And heck - go ahead and keep what you have and try to salvage it so you're not bleeding. Just don't get stuck investing time/energy into recouping something that can be recouped in a different investment faster. 

Post: Sell portfolio of SFR to investors, or sell individually to Owner/Occupants?

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Rather than 1031 exchange, have you considered rent to own? Get buyers on board (maybe someone who doesn’t yet qualify for a mortgage, but is financially prepared to purchase). Have them sign a lease (rent) and then sell them the right to purchase (own) after a 2 year period (priced at estimated appreciation). The purchase of the rights would be non-refundable and would go towards the purchase of the home (in essence, a down payment). They would have immediate control and responsibility for improvements and maintenance. 

What you’d get?

1) A down payment up front of $15-$30k per property (or whatever they can afford that you’d accept). 

2) Rent (not applied towards purchase) - covers your mortgage, but no more maintenance or management fees, etc. 

3) A windfall of the balance of the purchase price at the end of the term.

Bonus: if they want, they can apply additional funds towards the balance of the purchase price on top of rent. 

Cash on cash on cash. 

You don’t get as much leverage right away, but you get SOME immediate leverage and you’d have much better cash flow. 

Also, title doesn’t change hands and if they back out, there are no refunds - they just terminate their lease and away you go and find another buyer.  

I am only spouting something I heard on BP Rookies podcast, so I haven’t done this. However, depending on your goals, the concept may be a boon for you. 

Post: Starting Up After 7 Year Pause

Matthew Hull
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Quote from @Randy Charboneau:

Hey Matt!  Welcome to BP!  Looks like you're in West MI and that's an area I cover.  I'd love to be a source of info for you if you need it.   West MI is a great place to invest and we've had some crazy good appreciation numbers in pockets of this area that are really making a lot of investors some great returns and positive equity positions.   I also have access to contractors if you need some help with a flip or such.   Let's chat when you have time and I'll see how I can help!


Done. Let’s connect! 

Post: Starting Up After 7 Year Pause

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Quote from @Rebeca Coleman:

@MatthewHull- if you'd like to connect after you've made your purchase and you're interested in longer term investing (you mentioned it might be an option in your post) let me know. We'd love to be of assistance of any kind (even if it's just a question or a referral for maintenance services in the area, etc.). 


 Sounds great. I’ll reach out this week!