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All Forum Posts by: Mark Gee

Mark Gee has started 10 posts and replied 71 times.

Post: Assignment of Contract vs. Consulting Agreement

Mark GeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Red Bank, NJ
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 18

@Bill Gulley 



Hi Bill   - I've been combing over BP threads about this matter for a couple of hours and I really like your response above. My question is this, I'm in a situation where an assignment fee is a non-starter. I have a seller and I have a buyer. I'm not a consultant, totally agree that is problematic. However, to some degree, I AM a marketer and that's how I found the seller. In your opinion, do you find being paid as a marketing freelancer problematic? Obviously, I'm not asking for legal advice... just your opinion b/c I know you have a great deal of experience. Thanks!

Post: Assignment of Contract vs. Consulting Agreement

Mark GeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Red Bank, NJ
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 18
Originally posted by @Bill Gulley:

Ned nailed it.

Just want to underscore a bit what Ned was saying with "Consulting Fees" or a "Consultant Contract".

Holding yourself out as a consultant related to RE or any aspect of investing is something you need to avoid doing. Better to say, do not go there!

You can be a Mary Kay Consultant, you can be a Home Decorating Consultant but consulting in RE matters will be seen, mark my words, as a licensee function in every state. RE consultants popped up in the 70s, not only did they get hammered under RE agency laws (even when the word consulting was not contained in the license laws) it is recognized that advising in RE is the function and nature of a licensee. Another issue:

You can also be in violation of state and federal securities laws. Yes, while RE is not a security, options can be, giving financial advice is covered or facilitating financial advice for the purchase or sale of assets is a covered aspect in financial regulation.

Different degrees of activities may apply to commercial transactions. You can also get into the unauthorized practice of law.

Calling yourself a "consultant" implies a higher level of experience and knowledge that you will be held to, if you lack qualifications you can easily be seen as someone engaging in misrepresentation issues, fraud, misleading the public with professional titles can get you in hot water!

While many may just regard me as the "No, don't do that" guy, this rates up there with my more serious cautions. You might think I know a bit about RE and financing, understand that I would never hold myself out as a "consultant" due to the extended liability issues and various license requirements that can hang you!!!

You can do well in RE for a lifetime and never use the term "Consultant", please don't go there. :)

 Hi @Bill Gulley   - I've been combing over BP threads about this matter for a couple of hours and I really like your response above.  My question is this, I'm in a situation where an assignment fee is a non-starter.  I have a seller and I have a buyer.  I'm not a consultant, totally agree that is problematic.  However, to some degree, I AM a marketer and that's how I found the seller.  In your opinion, do you find being paid as a marketing freelancer problematic?  Obviously, I'm not asking for legal advice... just your opinion b/c I know you have a great deal of experience.  Thanks!

Post: Wholesaling Land - Creative Ways to get Paid in NJ

Mark GeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Red Bank, NJ
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 18

I'm purchasing a property (land) for $540k in Monmouth County NJ.  The seller will not agree to any contract with a assignment fee and any discussion of the matter is a deal breaker.  I'm trying to think of creative ways to proceed with the deal without having to close on the purchase myself and then sell it to the ultimate buyer. For sure, a double closing is one solution, BUT is there any other creative solutions??  Thanks very much All.  

Post: What would you do with $100K cash??

Mark GeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Red Bank, NJ
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 18

Good morning @John Hamilton. I'd want to my $100k to grow into $300k and set that as my goal within 24-36 months. Put it in my journal and see that goal every morning. I'd be inclined to do it as quickly and safely as possible.  For me, that would mean value add rentals.  So for easy math I'd purchase and control 2 properties with about 40-45k invested in each.  The remainder (along with some credit cards or other private money if needed) would be used for a very timely rehab and rent.  I would make sure I had a few hours a day to keep both projects moving along and contractors on pace. Bonus if its a contractor I've worked with in the past and know how they operate. I would do very little manual labor myself and just focus on the project management.  These value add deals would mostly involve cleaning, painting, repairing a few leaks, new appliances and carpet.  Nothing major.  Possibly a couple new windows.  They would be in good areas where homes are selling in less than 90 days.

The rents would bring in >12% return. After 1 year, I would 1031 exchange those properties for another set of similar, more expensive value add rentals. The money is really made upfront, so the discount to ARV should be substantial with more than 1 comp to back it up. I like at least a 30% discount (including rehab costs). Use the BP calculators to discern what makes sense and not lose sight of holding costs. Be conservative and find winners by running as many properties through your filter as possible.

Post: Turnkey or value add?

Mark GeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Red Bank, NJ
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 18

There are some great replies here and some good wisdom shared, but @Matt Nettles can you share more information about the numbers.  [Solicitation Removed by Moderators] But 28-unit complexes, off-market in a strong market are not easy to come by.  

Post: Current Best Markets

Mark GeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Red Bank, NJ
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 18

Hi @Wallace Zhen, you are located in a great town, but I agree that 100-200k doesn't go very far there.  I'd look at markets in the Southeast US, where there's a good amount of migration and job growth.   Atlanta metro, Nashville, and Lexington come to mind as strong markets, but there are dozens of strong metro's, and submarkets on those metros that fit your terms above.   Let me know what you find out!  Would love to work with another Hobokenite.

Post: What are the ideal places to buy investment property in NJ?

Mark GeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Red Bank, NJ
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 18

Hey @Kazi Islam  NJ is a great place to invest and I have been doing so for more than a decade.  I've found Monmouth County to be the best location for finding value with high rents.  I have an agent who's very good at finding these deals and has helped me reach 40 units to date.  DM for details.  

What is the criteria you are look for presently? Perhaps a return metric you are focused on?

Cheers.

Post: Real estate journey first steps

Mark GeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Red Bank, NJ
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 18

Hi @Derrick Machado   I'm a buyer in Monmouth County so please share some properties with me.  Generally, I look for minimal rehabs, no development properties that need TLC and competent management.  Good luck on your journey!

Post: Expanding to Lancaster County PA

Mark GeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Red Bank, NJ
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 18

I've finally expanded outside my home state of NJ and am in the process of buying two townhomes in Lancaster County PA, specifically West Hempfield.  The properties are both vacant and located in what I would describe as a C area.  We'll be doing a light/medium rehab with a local management company: cleaning, new flooring, paint, lighting, replacing decking.  There is a large amount on deferred maintenance in each unit.  Currently working with American Heritage Properties but I'm interested in exploring other possibilities as well. I'd like to work with someone who has good experience turning units and knows the area well.

Any input from locals would be appreciated.  Thanks!

Post: Investors familiar with Hoboken, NJ - Is this worth pursuing?

Mark GeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Red Bank, NJ
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 18

Hi @Pearly Tan I've been working in Hoboken for about 15 years and its' a very tricky town to do business in. I hope your MIL sees your side of the argument because I've seen things go very wrong as 2 year timelines tend to double,,, especially if you make a mistake with drawings/permitting.

Another issue is there is a surplus of rental supply currently and rents have been steadily coming down in JC/Hoboken last 6 months or so.

Best of luck!