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All Forum Posts by: Mark Elkins

Mark Elkins has started 1 posts and replied 37 times.

Post: Tax professional help needed!!

Mark ElkinsPosted
  • Schaumburg, IL
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 49

@Richard Sherman ,@Josh Bauerle , @James Defazio .

Gentlemen:

Becoming a real estate professional will change calculations on capital gains because short-term capital gains will now be treated as ordinary income which is taxed differently.  Additionally, limits on passive losses, expenses, and depreciation to $25,000 are removed.  In other words, you won't need to make over $100,000 to take full advantage of this distinction and it doesn't phase out. What this means is, YES, it does make things more deductible for real estate professionals than for anyone else. You may deduct everything including ALL your depreciation the year it occurs.  If your passive losses exceed your income you have a loss that may be carried back 3 years or carried forward and you would owe ZERO tax in the year of the loss.  These deductions from income will also offset your spouse's income reducing your overall MAGI.

If you are uncertain this is correct, look it up and then check with an accountant who specializes in this area.  There is an excellent article posted on this blog that offers the insight you seek, BiggerPockets Article.  That article also contains a link to the IRS for this information but it doesn't work and I can't offer a good substitute.  A more technical guide from IRS may be found here Sec 469 PDF.

I don't know everything Gentlemen, I just know what I know, and I hope it helps.

Merry Christmas!

Mark Elkins

Post: How to rationally select a long-distance market for investing?

Mark ElkinsPosted
  • Schaumburg, IL
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 49

TJ,

The first thing you need to do is to set aside all of the wonderful advice that comes from all these experienced investors. Aside from @Jay Hinrichs , none of the comments here address the fact that you are starting out your investment career.

Your main concern right now is RISK MANAGEMENT! Unless you want to be one of the guys at the club who complains about his bad rental experience, you have to take care of your money and your ability to handle the things that go wrong with rental real estate. Let the big players who have the cash to burn and tons of experience to bail them out, look for the best market in America. There are 1,570 cities, towns, villages in New York State and 18,443 in the USA and you can easily make enough money to satisfy your investment criteria even in the 275th or 521st or 18,443rd best market in the country or 1,570th best market in New York.

What you really need to know has nothing to do with any of this! Concentrate your efforts on locations that have a good rental rate as compared to the cost of ownership. This is more important if you are borrowing than if you are paying cash because you can get a nice return on investment and cash flow even on one of those hideous shacks you mention on Long Island if you have no mortgage. These will ordinarily be in smaller markets but not necessarily far away from large metros. I have houses in the third largest city in Illinois for example. Rockford Illinois is a city that is largely scorned by Chicago area investors but, consider these factors I do, and compare these to your own markets.

  1. Can I cash flow the property if I borrow the money? Nobody wants to be in a negative cash flow like you are now with your first project. In Rockford, there are neighborhoods of varying quality just like there are in every large city and prices range from $1 to over $1,000,000 with the median being $82,044. This means that at 4% fixed for 30yrs with $4,000 down a homeowner will pay $534 per month PITI. At the same time the median rent in Rockford, IL is $954. That means before maintenance, utilities, and management you cash flow $380 per month on your investment of $4,000 down or, before expenses, a cash on cash return of 114%. Your depreciation and expense write-offs for income tax purposes will increase this amount by 12-20%, depending on the Trump Tax bill.
  2. Can I afford to wait for the most qualified tenant? At $534 per month total cost of ownership exclusive of maintenance and utilities, it should be a breeze as compared to buying a $350,000 house in one of Atlanta’s hot suburbs.
  3. Can I handle things when they go wrong? Things go wrong, PERIOD. If you are not prepared for things to go wrong in a hurry and when you least expect it, this is the wrong business for you. Your property manager will quit because the tenant insulted him over his shoes (true story), the furnace will fail on the last cold weekend in March and has to be replaced now, the tenant or the tenant's teen-aged son will get arrested for manufacturing meth in your basement. Even simple things become a hassle, the property manager will leave payment for the lawn mowing contractor on Friday before he leaves for 2 weeks in Hawaii. His assistant won’t know where the payment is, so the contractor won’t mow. The city will send you a citation on Wednesday stating that if you don’t cut the grass by Monday at noon, they will do it for you at a cost of $250 and a fine of $500. You will get the notice Saturday afternoon when you get back from your kid’s soccer game. The Mariners are in the playoffs and no landscaper in town is answering your call! What will you do about this situation with your home in beautiful Seattle? Will you get on a plane for $350 round trip get the mower from the shed yourself and then fly back? Will you just suck back the fine and scream at your manager when he gets back? What happens next week at lawn mowing time before he gets back in town? My point is that if the house is under 100 miles from your home you can get in the car and handle the situation. I live 30 miles from Chicago’s lakefront and 60 miles from Rockford. In traffic, Chicago can be 90 minutes or more away, whereas; Rockford is an hour away all the time (less if I put on my lead foot). I can still use professionals to do the work and never even see my houses but, when I need to handle an emergency, I can get there quick.
  4. What does it cost to do business in this other market? Rockford Labor is less than Chicago by 20% or more and the regulation is less so many things are less costly. Perhaps more important, Lawyers cost 10-15% of what they do in the big city and evictions in the area can be accomplished in 2-4 weeks. Chicago has favorable tenant rules and with the 45 days back up at the sheriff’s office, it can take several months to get a tenant out and professional deadbeats can keep you at bay for a year or more if you are inexperienced or unwary.
  5. What is going on in the town? Every city, town, and village across America has a website that touts its merits. Not only that, it will contain links to the city’s long-term planning, the State government has similar information if it effect that city and the feds have more information than you could ever believe on whats going on in any part of the country from how much crime to the price of a loaf of bread to how many jobs to the condition and maintenance of the roads. If a city has money to spend improving itself and/ or some money for you to improve it, you can find it in their plans.
  6. What is the market like? You can find all the prices and comps on the internet. Look at velocity, how long does a house stay on the market? This could mean trouble selling but it could also mean easy purchase and if you are interested in cash flow, you can hang on to it until it sells.
  7. Are there enough jobs? All of the information sources I mention will give you an idea of what jobs are available and what plans the city has to attract more. You want your tenants to have good work and to be able to find work in changing times.
  8. Do you understand the laws, ordinances, and practices in the area and the risks you will face? If the practice of law or customary rental expectations in a market are very different from what you expect, you will not be prepared to deal with the unexpected. That can cost you.

Manage your risk above all else! Don’t worry about what Forbes says. Keep your focus on your own dollars.

There is plenty of money to be made an hour or two out of town. It’s far enough away that you won’t get called in the middle of the night to play plumber and close enough to deal with emergencies as they arise. A free house in a highly ranked market, with high expenses and low cash flow, is not a good deal. A house that earns twice your monthly expenses is a bargain no matter how “bad” the deal or the market is (just don’t buy houses in “the hood” unless you are accustomed to that lifestyle or prepared for the people who are). If you pay double the market value for it and double your money every year who cares? There are some strategies even for selling a house at a loss and walking away with cash if the deal is right!

I hope this helps!

Best of luck,

Mark

Post: Tax professional help needed!!

Mark ElkinsPosted
  • Schaumburg, IL
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 49

Since you are now self-employed, ask your accountant about the advantages of claiming you are a real estate professional. This is not a license requirement.  It has to do with working 750 hours in your business, having your money at risk and being an active participant in the decisions.

Changing to professional status with the IRS will change the way capital gains are calculated and lift the restrictions on how much you can deduct.  Once you do this you may find that depreciation, taxes, insurance, mortgage interest, maintenance, and management costs reduce your income substantially, perhaps even to the point of negative income you can use to get refunds from prior years taxes!

Find an accountant who works extensively with real estate investors if you want the best results.  I know some who have pulled 5 and 6 figure refunds on behalf of people previously represented by accountants who just didn't know the truth but forged ahead anyway with professional arrogance as if they did know.

Post: Wholesaling To Flipper: How To Make An Offer

Mark ElkinsPosted
  • Schaumburg, IL
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 49

There's a  lot going on in these post responses!  Nobody said anything about checking the existing financing.  You need to be prepared if you might offer less than what is owed.  It will have to be a truly motivated seller!

I also disagree about getting licensed.  I'm not.  There are special protections that apply to the general public that don't apply to license holders.

Good luck!

Post: First, Last and Security is a lot of money??

Mark ElkinsPosted
  • Schaumburg, IL
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 49

I agree that if it is customary in the area to get that much then tenants will be prepared for it. Similarly, in some of my rentals, I don't provide appliances because non-working appliances become a reason to withhold rent or criteria for HUD to suspend payment. The locals all know the drill and bring their own.

If it's permitted in your area, you may consider the security deposit a fee instead.  This way you won't be expected to return it and just charge the tenant as they go along for damages.

Cara, I saw your post too.  Tell your tenants that the other rentals are charging too much over time which is why they have to give away $99 move-ins just to attract people.  If they were charging fair rent in the first place, they could ask for more, as you do!

I hope this helps!

Jake, 

4 responses to 120 letters are awesome!  You don't have to be special on the phone just remember that these people called you hoping that you can help solve their problem; this house they don't want.

You can ask any questions you like.  It doesn't matter.  Just be certain you ask these 2 questions in this order.  You might not even have to ask the second one by the time they answer the first.

1) Will you please tell me about the house?

You are looking for physical characteristics but they may also tell you all their problems!

2) Why are you selling?

You will never be able to make a deal without the answer to this question since the answer is about what they want and the problem they are trying to solve.  If the seller won't tell you why, you probably won't have a deal.  Before you give up though you can rephrase the question as "Please tell me the story of the house?"  If they want to know why you ask, just say that you like to know the history of places you buy.  With no answer, tell them you'll consider it and move on to the next.  If they won't be forthcoming, they're not a distressed seller and you only buy from distressed sellers.  Distress isn't the same as panic so be careful!

Good Luck!

Mark

Hey Jake!  All the previous listed ways to market will work if you are dedicated to the practice of sending letters and following up.  When I started, I didn't have that kind of patience.  I wanted instant results!  Remember, this is one of the few industries that you can begin working in today with no money or credit and have large profits in by tomorrow.

The very fastest way to build your numbers of people to sell your wholesale deals to is to write down the number from or photograph every "I buy houses" sign.  Look through Craigslist for the I buy houses ads.  Every one of these people is a wholesaler of fix and flipper looking for their own inventory!  They may also have inventory for you to wholesale to your buyers.  Just call and ask what their criteria are and if you find a deal that meets their needs, they will be glad to take it off your hands and leave you a profit.  These are the guys to network with!  Since they already have the cash or are connected to cash you can leverage their network.  Most are glad to let you do this if they are also profiting.

The next step is to find and join every REA in your area.  You don't actually have to join the ones that are farther away, just show up for their meetings from time to time.  They all have networking time and time to talk about their deals or criteria in every meeting.  

These two steps will give you enough leads to get working and making money right away.  Afterward, if you have the time and patience to write letters and build an email list and whatever, you can do that to supplement your marketing efforts.

Feel free to contact me if you want more information!  I am glad to help.