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All Forum Posts by: David Hutson

David Hutson has started 6 posts and replied 381 times.

Post: Memphis TN, which utilities are tenants paying & landlords paying

David HutsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bartlett, TN
  • Posts 404
  • Votes 421

@Gerardo Gutierrez,

It is usually location dependant.  I pay some utilities in CA and have transferred water to the tenants here once CA started to require water meters on the properties.  The tenants haven't complained once I tell them the homes are metered and they pay for what they use.

I have many properties in Memphis.  Memphis is great for owners in regards to utilities.  Memphis Light Gas and Water (MLGW) has all the utilities under one company.  I don't pay anything for utilities when there is a tenant in the property.  I have found that when a home is vacant it's $150 or so depending on how much electricity and water is being used by the company turning the home.

Post: Anyone Invest in Limitless Turnkey?

David HutsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bartlett, TN
  • Posts 404
  • Votes 421

@Joni Martin,

I'd do some research on what the gentlemen's role was with Morris Invest.  At what level or what was his duties?  Was he in charge of sales or was he a rehab manager, etc.  

Do more research on them and Morris Invest to determine whether it will be a good idea to work with them.  Check with any current/recent customers also.  

Post: Time to sell in California ?

David HutsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bartlett, TN
  • Posts 404
  • Votes 421

@Kelly Pierce

My two cents, as a Sacramento investor, is that you should sell and buy somewhere else.  Too many concerns with taxes and the government pushing rent control again in the future.  I'm retiring and moving out of state to a landlord friendly state with no state tax.  I have had several properties here but I just don't want to deal with all of the CA laws and taxes.  I'm down to three which will be listed for sale in the next month or so.  I like the properties but I'm not going to chance more rule changes in the future.

In addition, the Franchise Tax Board just sent me a letter asking about a 1031 I did a few years ago wanting me to validate that I still own the properties I bought out of state and it appears they want me to validate each year so they know when I sell them and CA can get their money.  I'm done here.

Post: Has anyone used Crestcore or similar Turnkey-Lite/BRRR services?

David HutsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bartlett, TN
  • Posts 404
  • Votes 421

@Wei Jie Yang,

1.  Actually, I can talk about Crestcore's RE team works.  My partner and I have both purchased homes working with Dean.  It's an easy process, just pick a house and do the contract. 

2.  I did have the house appraised when it was done.  I made about 10% equity in the deal after purchase and reno compared to the appraised price.  The rehab was decent but I didn't spend enough to get as good as many of the turnkey I have purchased.  With you doing the rehab you must determine how nice you want the property to be.

3. I would say their model is BRRRR since it's not turnkey, at least to me, if you buy the home and then rehab it. They help you get and rehab the home and then it's up to you. They wouldn't be involved in the refinance. I have just used cash I have so I didn't refinance any of the homes I have done this with.

 I'm pretty sure of my answer and even though I'm pretty good friends with them I don't want to speak for them.  @Douglas Skipworth is one of the owners and is on  here consistently.  He may want to chime in.  I don't really see @Dean Harris chatting on here much but maybe he is and can chime in.

They can definitely help you find the homes and get the rehab done.  You need to understand and determine the quality of the rehab you want done and ensure whoever is doing it understands.  Try to match the other local homes.  I try to get my homes a little nicer than they neighborhood so I can rent faster and maybe get higher rents.

As you continue your search stay in touch through messages.  I'm moving out there in a few months and go take a look at homes or neighborhoods if you need assistance.

Post: Has anyone used Crestcore or similar Turnkey-Lite/BRRR services?

David HutsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bartlett, TN
  • Posts 404
  • Votes 421

@Wei Jie Yang,

I have used them for that and they still manage the property.  I found a house I liked and they rehabbed it for me and put a tenant into it.  I earned a little equity in the deal also since there were no issues found during the rehab.

You mentioned you already know you could have unknown issues that come up during the rehab.  Also consider the rent up and vacancy up front.  You will want to do a good enough job that it will rent to good tenants in the area you choose or it could sit vacant for awhile.

Post: Real estate sale person fees.

David HutsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bartlett, TN
  • Posts 404
  • Votes 421

@Nick Clurman,

For Sacramento it's about $1,000 for the annual fees depending on which voluntary fees you want to "donate" to/with the association.  Your broker will have fees/percentage splits on top of that.

If you don't have a broker, which it doesn't sound like you have done, go interview with several.  They will all happily talk to you about what they have to offer.  Some have low fees, some are much higher.  You need to look at the training they offer or "require".  Also, look at the transaction fees that may be charged.  

The Sacramento Association of Realtors, which has training and a store with all the supplies you need, is off Howe.  You will be required to go to a free class there for a few hours one evening.  It's actually helpful since they will discuss all the local rules and what they charge.  They also give out several coupons to their store where you will most likely get your lockboxes, register your electronic keys and buy signs/flyers/doodads, etc.  Recommend you do that asap.  It will help to answer your questions, except for how much your broker will charge.

Post: Creative Financing for Purchasing a Portfolio of SFHs

David HutsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bartlett, TN
  • Posts 404
  • Votes 421

@Martinis Jackson,

Find a local bank to do a portfolio loan.  You won't find a large/national bank to do it.  I do believe it can be difficult to get your foot in the door, even with some experience, since it took me a long time to be able to get a local loan.  

Another option, though more expensive, could be one of the bigger/national companies that do loans.  I have looked at a few and the numbers don't work for me

Finally, look here on BP.  You may find someone on here on BP who can do the loan (either an individual or company).  May or may not get a better deal so shop around.

Post: New to out of state rental investing.. help!

David HutsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bartlett, TN
  • Posts 404
  • Votes 421

@Annie Zhao,

I'll send you a message.  8%+ is good, depending on your goals.  You still need to decide on your criteria and locations you want to invest.  With that I can make recommendations.  I can't give you a good recommendation that works for you without more info.  I would just be giving you companies and agents that work for me or that I know of.  Ie, I don't want to give you are recommendation for one city in the east if you find that you want to invest in Texas.

Post: New to out of state rental investing.. help!

David HutsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bartlett, TN
  • Posts 404
  • Votes 421

@Annie Zhao,

1.  There are numerous posts on BP about landlord friendly states.  Search for those or type the question into Google.  That's the quickest.  You can also ask other BP members who are in those states.  Also, property managers and other investors can be a good reference.

2.  What are pros and cons, well, that's always going to be an "it depends" question.  Every investor will have their own thoughts and experiences, and I only named a few for example purposes.  Using the example, I stay away from basements because they can leak, get moldy then the damage can be very expensive to fix.  It's not easy to see into a basement, especially if it isn't in use often.  I stay away from areas that snow because I don't like the cold.  It's just a preference for me.  I'd rather visit a house that will have a low of 32 versus one that may be 0.  When snow melts and you have a basement then eventually water from the snow gets into the basement.  Look for stories here where landlords have gone into a vacant home with a basement where a pipe broke due to the cold weather or that water got into the basement and the landlord has an ice rink inside.  It's all bad.  It's not something that happens often, but again it's just my preference.  

Pros of cold weather, for me, none.  But everyone needs a home so if you have a good home in an area that snows or has a basement it can be rented.  Ohio has many of these for example.  Another pro, you can make snow angels or snowmen, doesn't help my bottom line though.

On another note, weather plays a big role with rental areas.  I'm dealing with Soldiers and families now in California where we just had the fires.  Hundreds, if not thousands, of rental homes were destroyed.  Do the owners have enough/quality insurance to cover the loss and the loss of rent.  The mortgage will still be due even after the home burns down.  Look at Hurricane Katrina in 2005.  Homes were lost there too.  Those are the large scale events.  Having a basement flood or a tenant letting water damage turn into a mold issue is on the small side.  There is a lot in the middle so at least consider the weather and possible damage when you choose an area to invest in.  For example, most people don't think about whether flood insurance is required and add that to their numbers when looking at their returns.

3.  Other things to consider, everything.  The list would be hundreds of pages.  To start out I recommend you choose 3-4  areas and narrow it down to one, you can always change your mind if something doesn't work in the area you selected or if you want to add another area later.  Then research it on BP and all of the sites such as Trulia.  Trulia has the homes for sale in the area to get prices and rents to compare, heat maps that show how well the schools perform, crime levels, local shopping/commute time, etc.  citydata.com has info population, jobs, market, etc.  Census sites have data on people who live in an area.   Those are a few good places to start for an area.

Once you have an area, create/update your criteria list to determine what it is you want in a home, ie, 3-4 bedrooms, 2 bath, in a neighborhood with a school rating of ??, built after 1995 with a 2 car garage.  Then add a like, dislike and no column and add the items under the headings.  As you learn what you are doing you can add to or adjust your list.  I recently added wood paneling as a dislike to my list because the city I invest in has it in the older homes.  I can deal with it if the deal makes sense but I don't like it.

From there start looking at homes on Zillow, Realtor.com, Trulia, etc to find examples of homes that you like.  Then reach out to an agent, turnkey company, etc that matches what type of investing you want to do.  They should be able to help you and with all of the data you provide they will know you are more serious and you will waste less of your time and theirs while tying to get started in that market.  

This is a brief, but long, list of how I would start based off my experience over 18 years and 25+ homes.  It's not as easy as what I typed and there is much more to it.  

There are several books for sale also that will walk you through the process.  @Joshua Dorkin and @Brandon Turner wrote the book on "How to Invest in Real Estate".  It's a great beginner's guide and it's only $15 here on the site.

Final note, ensure you get a great property manager.  This is always my number one tip.  You will buy the house once, get an inspection once, get a loan once but you will deal with the property manager at least once a month.  That company will be a big part of what makes or breaks your investment.

Message me if you have other questions.  Good luck,

Post: Cost to build a Duplex

David HutsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bartlett, TN
  • Posts 404
  • Votes 421

@Chris C.,

Let me know how that goes.  I have been looking at doing something similar.  I think it makes sense but haven't run scenarios to do this as I haven't picked a location yet but it does sound like a good idea.