All Forum Posts by: Harish V.

Well, yes and not after a due diligence I did. Investors from Scoutpads transitioned their investments to Techvestor. The investment model changed from what I understand, instead of investing in single STR, they created a fund. In the other hand Superhostlabs still running under the new company techvestor (this is the designing and property beautification arm of the company).

I know those facts, so I was hoping to find some of those investors to validate this information. 

Has anyone worked with or invested in Techvestor before? They provide passive income if you invest at least $25K with them and they use it to buy, hold, and sell airBnb-able properties. They're from the same guys that built Scoutpads and Superhostlabs but neither those websites are live anymore. I would like to hear from your experience if any of you is an active investor on their STR fund

i was also one of the victims of GEG. They now are.all working under new name sdirawealth. Beware of dealing with them. Any information of how to pursue the matter with them. It's nice to see you standing for your members.

BTW the properties are listed here on Bigger pockets: 

https://www.biggerpockets.com/...

Update on my post

As pointed out, the initial terms on my contract in Oct 2021 were beyond industry standards. It took a posting from me fir Grocapitus to make adjustments?? What’s that say about Grocapitus and their business model. 

Grocapitus had an ephipany about industry standards? 

So I would assume the San Antonio project is sold out if the terms have been adjusted to be more reasonable. However, as of June 2022, I see these properties are still being advertised. When I made my earnest money deposit, in Oct, I was told production would be in 2022 and completed by 2023. That was the only production schedule I was given even though I specifically earmarked the buildings I was purchasing in the project. I was told ( I better hurry, the project is just about sold out) 

As of June, the project is still selling and now the timeline has moved to the right by another year, 2023-2024. If I hadn’t got out of the project, I would have tied up $500,000 for potentially 3 years. 

Industry standards are currently between earnest money to ownership is 12 months. 
Grocapitus is saying it’s ok to tie up hundreds of thousands of $$ for 3 years. Incredibly poor business deal. 

As for the increase in rental potential on the properties. That means nothing until the properties are sold and rented. Even with a bump of $200 in rent. That will most probably be offset by an increase in new mortgage costs and increased rates. 
It seems there are still issues with the San Antonio project. I am glad I walked away. It wasn’t a good deal and since the project production keeps moving to the right and there seems to be an unlimited number of properties available, one has to wonder what’s going on.  I find that amusing as I was told I was buying the last “two” buildings and I better hurry or they would be gone. I would caution any investor to beware and run the numbers independently of the spreadsheets provided by the Grocapitus sales team. 

@Joe Villeneuve I truly do not understand your comments regarding measuring value/equity.  All I know is it feels nice to hold real estate worth millions.  In any event, I agree you cannot know in advance how a particular market is going to move but sufficient demographic data exists to allow you to make educated guesses about where growth is going to happen.  We are invested in Northern California, Gulf Coast Florida and sunbelt (largely Las Vegas).  So far, these bets have played out quite well.  We sold our midwestern bets in 2014 once we fully digested the above principle and realized that capital costs were certain to outpace gains over the long run in those places.  

Check out Neal Bawa and his Grocapitus, their Equinox development in Idaho Falls.  That's more of syndication option but that's the only "newer" group of 4plexes I've heard of recently.  I think you may be hard pressed to find 10+ available in the same neighborhood.  We have communities of 4plexes in our area but unlikely that there would be 10+ motivated sellers right now.  Best wishes on your 

Harish, yes, 20-25+% IRR threshold. Do you invest in real estate? If so, I'm interested in your IRR experience and threshold return. Your profile says syndication experience. We can passively invest in syndications and achieve returns in the teens. So, there is no sense in investing in active direct owned real estate without a premium to that return. Incidentally, the 20-25% is about what it takes for the total return in a syndication to split returns and provide LPs with returns in the teens. It's not my model...it's most investors' models. None of us would invest in real estate for a 6-7% return...can get that with index funds/ETFs.

There are two types of appreciation in real estate: market appreciation and forced appreciation. Market appreciation is out of our control, and is the type of appreciation you're referring to here. Market appreciation is nice to have, but since it's largely out of our control we can't put too much emphasis on it.

Real estate's advantage over Wall Street is that we have the ability to force appreciation of our properties. We can buy properties that are underperforming, fix them up, and sell for a higher value later. Only billionaire activist investors can do that on Wall Street, and even then they're rolling the dice (cough, Elon, cough).