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All Forum Posts by: Luke Schrotberger

Luke Schrotberger has started 4 posts and replied 61 times.

Post: 1st Success in Seminole County FL

Luke SchrotbergerPosted
  • Lender
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 29

@Jorge Magana

Congrats. Looks like a great building block for your business. 

Post: Newbie in Long Beach/LA/OC and IE Areas

Luke SchrotbergerPosted
  • Lender
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 29

Hi @Eric F.

Welcome to BP.  Also down here in SD, but lived in Hermosa for 10 years and went to college in the IE so am always looking at options throughout So Cal.  Look forward to connecting. 

Luke  

@Matt Fish

I have had a bad experience getting a response from B2R. I submitted my name on their site to get a quote for a group of homes I'm buying. A sales rep sent me an email saying if I wanted more info I needed to call him.  I called him and got his voice mail so I left a message.  I got no response.   Then I submitted my name using a different email and explained I was the same person but would like a sales rep with more bandwidth and did not get any type of response.  No email. No call, Zilch. Zippo. I'm hesitant to work with them know because if their internal underwriting and funding processes are as ineffective as the sales process, then I don't want to have a deal dependent on them. 

Have you looked at Lending Home or Asset Avenue?  I'm not sure if they are lending on projects in Delaware.  I've also had luck with building a relationship with a local/regional bank for a cash out refi on a project I did to free up cash to buy more properties.  

Post: I don't see how this is sustainable

Luke SchrotbergerPosted
  • Lender
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 29

Thanks for the great examples @Aaron Mazzrillo

@Matthew Thompson, I'm just beginning in the investor game and not nearly as savvy as the way Aaron is managing his portfolio. I believe you should still plan to leverage conventional financing as part of your $$ strategy, but contrary to your assumption, the income is not your limiting factor, the reserves are more likely to be your limiting factor. As mentioned above, the income from the rental properties should offset the debt from the properties. Your focus should be on limiting the debt you have on things like cars and credit cards and then you won't need much income to meet the banks ratio requirements. The thing that changes is the amount of reserves you need for each additional loan. The banks will require a liquid reserves based on the number of properties you have financed and the amount of the total unpaid balance on those loans. If you want to do this full-time the limiting factor will be fact that once you have 10 financed properties, you won't be able to get conventional financing.  Therefore, going back to other financing strategies...

Here is what I'm doing with some properties I'm acquiring.

I approached local/regional banks to ask if they would be interested in financing a number of homes I wanted to acquire from a bank who had foreclosed on them. The first 5 banks turned me down so I'm glad I went to the 6th. Once they looked at my Personal Financial Statement and agreed to work with me, now they will evaluate the deals based on the properties.  

For this deal, the bank agreed to finance 80% of the purchase price at 5.125% on a 5 year balloon, with payments on a 15 yr amortization schedule. The properties cash flow with these terms.  This gives me a 5 year window to figure out exit plans.  Here are a couple strategies I'm considering:

1. Refinance using conventional financing. In 6 months, I will be able to tap into the total ARV for the properties I decide to put them in my long term portfolio. For example, one is a quad that I'm paying $50k to purchase. I'll spend about $50k-$60k on a rehab and the ARV will be $150k. I plan to pull out 75% of ARV or about $110k which means I have the property with no cash in, $2400 rental income, and a 30 year fixed with payments in the $700/mo range.

2. I'm also talking to one of the renters about selling the house to him using seller financing. He has bad credit, but wants to stay in the house. I can sell him the house for $105K, I bought it at $85k and my loan will be $68k. If we can agree to a 8-10% interest rate on the loan, then I'll make the 3+% spread from the bank's money. I'm hoping his credit improves in the next 5 years enough to get a conventional loan so he can buy me out.  If not, I'll re-finance the balance using the same bank or private lender.      

3. Sell the houses to other investors looking for turn-key rentals. Pays off my loan and gives me cash to continue the process.

Post: Refinancing a Primary Residence Post-Flip

Luke SchrotbergerPosted
  • Lender
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 29

Hi @Tim Porsche

Your 1% increase in rate for primary vs. investment is a good conservative estimate. If you're planning to rent it out soon, the person doing your loan would set up the refinance as an investment property rather than a primary residence. If you hide the fact that you're planning to rent out the property soon, then you could still get the rate for a primary residence. However, the banks see this as fraud and if they find out you moved out shortly after the refi (for example, if you apply for a loan on another property), the bank could call the loan due and force you to repay in full. If that happens, you will carry that stigma and will have a difficult to get loans in the future. You have the option to take that chance. I advise my clients that the additional savings of the lower rate is not worth the financial risk you're assuming by going that route.  

Sounds like a great event. I look forward to meeting everyone there.

Post: West Tennessee homes availalble

Luke SchrotbergerPosted
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  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 29

@James Martin. You're exactly right about Lane college.  A few of the properties I have under contract are within a couple blocks of Lane. 

Post: West Tennessee homes availalble

Luke SchrotbergerPosted
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  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 29

I am investing in Jackson, Tennessee and have found a bank that had 19 homes foreclosed homes available for sale. I made a bulk offer and now have all 19 homes under contract to close at the end of May. My initial plan was to rehab all the homes myself and keep them as rentals, however I'm open to other investors buying some of the properties as well.

10 of the 19 homes have tenants. 4 of the remaining 9 are partially rehabbed. I've been inside all the houses without tenants and my contractor put together a repair estimate for each one. I can share the pictures and info that I've collected.  

Jackson is half way between Memphis and Nashville and might be an interesting spot to consider for any west Tennessee investors. Jackson is investing in revitalizing its downtown which should benefit a number of these properties.

Post: Conventional Options

Luke SchrotbergerPosted
  • Lender
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 29

Hi @Ashley Garcia

To add to the input from the other responses, conventional financing has very specific rules. Either you fit into the box or you don't.  Therefore having all the details of conventional financing lined up in advance is important. Send me a message if you'd like to talk in more detail about what you'd like to buy and whether conventional financing would be a good option.

Post: San Diego small multi famly owner

Luke SchrotbergerPosted
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  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 29

Hi @Jason Lombard

Sounds like a fun project. Send me a message if you'd like to discuss options for the financing side.

Luke