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All Forum Posts by: Luka Jozic

Luka Jozic has started 25 posts and replied 115 times.

Post: Looking to BRRR in Toledo Ohio

Luka JozicPosted
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Quote from @Michael P.:
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Quote from @Dave Poeppelmeier:

If you're looking to simply Buy and Hold, depending on what class of property you're looking at, yes you can find deals right now. If you're looking to BRRRR from out of town, it's difficult but not impossible. You might not be able to get 100% of your money out of properties, but you can get a good chunk. You really do need to bring cash for that right now, otherwise the lender closing costs for the purchase and refinance after is going really hurt your return.

If you do it "on your own" - looking for general contractors or trying to manage your trade-specific contractors (roofing, plumbing, electric, etc), you can get more bang for your buck. A big HOWEVER is that you need to know what you're doing with rehabs so you can keep tabs on the GC/contractors. The second that they know you're out of town or if they sense that you don't know what you're doing (or both), they're going to take you for a ride. It stinks, but that's the way it is. 

If you're still new, then you do need to rely on a Property Manager. With PMs, they manage the project for you, but you're going to pay for that service. But, if you're willing to put the capital in up front, you can find houses that are sitting there right now that need a full cosmetic reno for a lot less than you could last year. You drop $20-30k into it, refinance,  and now you have a solid long term property to hold onto that you know is set for a while. It just depends on how much "work" you want to put in as an investor. 


Very helpful post. What would a BRRRR in Toledo potentially look like number wise? Like example purchase price, rehab cost, ARV, and rent? Is it easier to make it work for SFH or MFH?


SFH brrrr I'm working on now is approximately:

75k purchase

35k reno

150k appraisal

1600 rent


Thanks for responding. But how do those numbers make sense for a BRRRR? If your appraisal is 150K and you leave 30% equity in the deal, your monthly payment should be just over $1000 a month. If rent is $1600, then 10% for PM, some percentage for cap-ex, vacancy and repairs (since its newly rehabbed maybe 15% for all that), that gives you barely $200 cash flow? Am I missing something here?


Not sure what you mean. ARV 150k i pull out 75% or 112.5k. That covers my entire purchase and rehab, so I have a cash flowing rental for "free", no money out of my pocket, isn't that how brrrr works? Then I can repeat the whole process.


I’m getting 11 cap I thought that was pretty good, but I’m open to suggestions

Hmm ok but I mean if you get an appraisal at 150K and you cash out refinance 70%, your mortgage and principal will be roughly $750 a month, your expenses are $600, that leaves you $250 a month in cash flow. Is it really worth all that work for $250 a month? This is where I struggle because for most deals I see, if I wanna pull all my money out, then the cash flow will suck, so it feels like I almost need to leave some money in the deal to get decent cash flow, which I would be ok with. 

Post: Looking to BRRR in Toledo Ohio

Luka JozicPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Posts 116
  • Votes 66
Quote from @Michael P.:
Quote from @Luka Jozic:
Quote from @Dave Poeppelmeier:

If you're looking to simply Buy and Hold, depending on what class of property you're looking at, yes you can find deals right now. If you're looking to BRRRR from out of town, it's difficult but not impossible. You might not be able to get 100% of your money out of properties, but you can get a good chunk. You really do need to bring cash for that right now, otherwise the lender closing costs for the purchase and refinance after is going really hurt your return.

If you do it "on your own" - looking for general contractors or trying to manage your trade-specific contractors (roofing, plumbing, electric, etc), you can get more bang for your buck. A big HOWEVER is that you need to know what you're doing with rehabs so you can keep tabs on the GC/contractors. The second that they know you're out of town or if they sense that you don't know what you're doing (or both), they're going to take you for a ride. It stinks, but that's the way it is. 

If you're still new, then you do need to rely on a Property Manager. With PMs, they manage the project for you, but you're going to pay for that service. But, if you're willing to put the capital in up front, you can find houses that are sitting there right now that need a full cosmetic reno for a lot less than you could last year. You drop $20-30k into it, refinance,  and now you have a solid long term property to hold onto that you know is set for a while. It just depends on how much "work" you want to put in as an investor. 


Very helpful post. What would a BRRRR in Toledo potentially look like number wise? Like example purchase price, rehab cost, ARV, and rent? Is it easier to make it work for SFH or MFH?


SFH brrrr I'm working on now is approximately:

75k purchase

35k reno

150k appraisal

1600 rent


Thanks for responding. But how do those numbers make sense for a BRRRR? If your appraisal is 150K and you leave 30% equity in the deal, your monthly payment should be just over $1000 a month. If rent is $1600, then 10% for PM, some percentage for cap-ex, vacancy and repairs (since its newly rehabbed maybe 15% for all that), that gives you barely $200 cash flow? Am I missing something here?

Post: Looking to BRRR in Toledo Ohio

Luka JozicPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Posts 116
  • Votes 66
Quote from @Dave Poeppelmeier:

If you're looking to simply Buy and Hold, depending on what class of property you're looking at, yes you can find deals right now. If you're looking to BRRRR from out of town, it's difficult but not impossible. You might not be able to get 100% of your money out of properties, but you can get a good chunk. You really do need to bring cash for that right now, otherwise the lender closing costs for the purchase and refinance after is going really hurt your return.

If you do it "on your own" - looking for general contractors or trying to manage your trade-specific contractors (roofing, plumbing, electric, etc), you can get more bang for your buck. A big HOWEVER is that you need to know what you're doing with rehabs so you can keep tabs on the GC/contractors. The second that they know you're out of town or if they sense that you don't know what you're doing (or both), they're going to take you for a ride. It stinks, but that's the way it is. 

If you're still new, then you do need to rely on a Property Manager. With PMs, they manage the project for you, but you're going to pay for that service. But, if you're willing to put the capital in up front, you can find houses that are sitting there right now that need a full cosmetic reno for a lot less than you could last year. You drop $20-30k into it, refinance,  and now you have a solid long term property to hold onto that you know is set for a while. It just depends on how much "work" you want to put in as an investor. 


Very helpful post. What would a BRRRR in Toledo potentially look like number wise? Like example purchase price, rehab cost, ARV, and rent? Is it easier to make it work for SFH or MFH?

Post: Help with getting property rent ready

Luka JozicPosted
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Quote from @Allan Smith:

I have a tough time believing that an entry level rental will rent for that much more with just an updated kitchen. If anything paint the cabinets, maybe pop new countertops on and keep the rest of your cash.

Yeah I was kind of thinking the same. I forgot to mention I can't paint the cabinets since they are laminat. 

Post: Help with getting property rent ready

Luka JozicPosted
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Im in the process of getting my property rent ready in Garfield Heights, its a 1200 sqft 3x1 single family home that is a buy and hold. Floors are ok so apart from minor fixes and some updates in the bathroom, the whole place will be painted on the inside. Now my PM suggested that I updated the kitchen, something that I wasn't planning on and did not include when running the numbers before purchase. The quote that I have is as follows:
- Provide and install average grade kitchen base cabinets: $2225

- Provide and install average grade kitchen wall cabinets: $850

- Provide and install laminate countertop, post grade 25" deep, 4" splash: $500

Now I personally think the cabinets look fine and that cleaning would suffice. I was thinking if anything I could do only countertops and back splash for $500 and not do cabinets. I am not sure quite how much difference in rental price cabinets would do but my PM provided some comps where the cheaper ones have old kitchens, and the remaining 5 have updated kitchens. Here are the comps!


Pictures of kitchen currently:

https://portfolio.zinspector.c...
https://portfolio.zinspector.c...

https://portfolio.zinspector.c...

https://portfolio.zinspector.c...

What do you guys think? Thanks.

Post: Help with BP Rehab Estimator

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That makes a lot of sense thank you for that response. I guess finding out what they charge in labor costs for certain things is not too difficult. The hard part is figuring out how long it takes. 

Post: Help with BP Rehab Estimator

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I am doing research to prepare for my BRRRR endeavors and will also just about start J. Scotts books on the topic. I came across the BiggerPockets Rehab Estimator and tried to use it on a random property in Ohio. There are a couple things I am a little confused about.

The first is that it estimates a total of $2784 for flooring for a 980 sqft house. I am no expert on flooring but that sounds like its barely enough for the material?

The second thing is, one of the first questions is how many ft of counters, which I put 14 for. But then under the kitchen category there is counters as well? So what are these counters for then?

Here is the link of the report: https://drive.google.com/file/...

Post: Help finding correct tile

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Quote from @Luka Jozic:

This is a long shot, but I gotta try. I just purchased a SFH in Cleveland. The bathroom has some unfinished tile and the seller claims they don't have any left over but that I should be able to find the same at Lowes. I have looked and cannot find it. I was wondering if there are any experienced rehabbers here that maybe happen to recognize this tile or can at least give me some pointers that can narrow my search? The one Im looking for is the smaller tiles on the left in the image.

I feel your pain. I've been that route. However, tile styles rotate each season as they sell out of stock.

The best you can do is remove one of the tiles in the least noticed place and walk it into a bunch of tile stores.

Very unlikely you'll find the exact one but you might find a close match. (and always buy extra)

As an aside: Both Home Depot and Lowes carry different tiles, cabinets, carpet, etc at every location. By that I mean, one location will have a pattern or color that no other location has. So you might want to try a few different locations. Some guys in the tile department will have been around long enough to be able to name the manufacturer and that helps the search.


Lets say I am unable to find the exact same. I feel like unless its exactly the same I probably have to replace all the small tiles? I can find something close enough to the bigger ones but the small ones need to match exactly right?

Depends.
The photo doesn't show the space you are trying to fix.
Is it readily noticeable that the tiles are missing? Is this a rental, rehab or someplace you are going to live? 

Are there tiles on the wall behind the cabinet you can use?

Removing the grout around the tile you want to remove and spraying the top and sides of the tile with water and letting soak for an hour or so typically loosens the tile from the wall. Be careful not to chip the tile if you can help it. But if it comes out in pieces, it's still better to have a broken tile to show the tile guy than no tile at all.


The part im trying to fix is in the shower under the window to the right you can see that they have covered it with silver tape and plastic. I guess the best I can do if I dont find the exact same is to just replace that part with a close match.

This is for a rental so I wanna get away cheap as possible. 

Thanks, now I see where you mean.
Is that a big gap in the left corner above the tub with no tile at all? That's a big problem if it is.
I'd remove what little tile is there under the window, properly prep the wall and use the larger tile that's used on the wall at the head of the tub. The larger tile is flat instead of curved and is easier to match and will make the room feel a little larger. Make you you caulk eveything water tight.

Honestly not sure. Yeah i guess if I can't find the exact same one I'll just get the closest match I can, only remove the stuff under the window and redo it there like you said. 

Any idea what a contractor should charge for that? Ballpark would be fine.

Post: Help finding correct tile

Luka JozicPosted
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Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Luka Jozic:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Luka Jozic:

This is a long shot, but I gotta try. I just purchased a SFH in Cleveland. The bathroom has some unfinished tile and the seller claims they don't have any left over but that I should be able to find the same at Lowes. I have looked and cannot find it. I was wondering if there are any experienced rehabbers here that maybe happen to recognize this tile or can at least give me some pointers that can narrow my search? The one Im looking for is the smaller tiles on the left in the image.

I feel your pain. I've been that route. However, tile styles rotate each season as they sell out of stock.

The best you can do is remove one of the tiles in the least noticed place and walk it into a bunch of tile stores.

Very unlikely you'll find the exact one but you might find a close match. (and always buy extra)

As an aside: Both Home Depot and Lowes carry different tiles, cabinets, carpet, etc at every location. By that I mean, one location will have a pattern or color that no other location has. So you might want to try a few different locations. Some guys in the tile department will have been around long enough to be able to name the manufacturer and that helps the search.


Lets say I am unable to find the exact same. I feel like unless its exactly the same I probably have to replace all the small tiles? I can find something close enough to the bigger ones but the small ones need to match exactly right?

Depends.
The photo doesn't show the space you are trying to fix.
Is it readily noticeable that the tiles are missing? Is this a rental, rehab or someplace you are going to live? 

Are there tiles on the wall behind the cabinet you can use?

Removing the grout around the tile you want to remove and spraying the top and sides of the tile with water and letting soak for an hour or so typically loosens the tile from the wall. Be careful not to chip the tile if you can help it. But if it comes out in pieces, it's still better to have a broken tile to show the tile guy than no tile at all.


The part im trying to fix is in the shower under the window to the right you can see that they have covered it with silver tape and plastic. I guess the best I can do if I dont find the exact same is to just replace that part with a close match.

This is for a rental so I wanna get away cheap as possible. 

Post: Help finding correct tile

Luka JozicPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Posts 116
  • Votes 66
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Luka Jozic:

This is a long shot, but I gotta try. I just purchased a SFH in Cleveland. The bathroom has some unfinished tile and the seller claims they don't have any left over but that I should be able to find the same at Lowes. I have looked and cannot find it. I was wondering if there are any experienced rehabbers here that maybe happen to recognize this tile or can at least give me some pointers that can narrow my search? The one Im looking for is the smaller tiles on the left in the image.

I feel your pain. I've been that route. However, tile styles rotate each season as they sell out of stock.

The best you can do is remove one of the tiles in the least noticed place and walk it into a bunch of tile stores.

Very unlikely you'll find the exact one but you might find a close match. (and always buy extra)

As an aside: Both Home Depot and Lowes carry different tiles, cabinets, carpet, etc at every location. By that I mean, one location will have a pattern or color that no other location has. So you might want to try a few different locations. Some guys in the tile department will have been around long enough to be able to name the manufacturer and that helps the search.


Lets say I am unable to find the exact same. I feel like unless its exactly the same I probably have to replace all the small tiles? I can find something close enough to the bigger ones but the small ones need to match exactly right?