All Forum Posts by: Tony Walker

Originally posted by Jon Holdman:

OK, you've learned a lot, created a corporation, and plunked down $19,500. How much money have you made using the techniques you learned from NR?

Originally posted by Harrison:

John's question is very valid!

Valid, yes but we have all (myself included) prejudged people here before finding out more details just because it "appears" to be the same spam or ad posts as before, not just with NR.
In all fairness, there is NOTHING wrong with NR education, but everything wrong with the marketers it develops.

Tanya, speaking for ALL of BP Nation, we apologize for your feelings of un-welcomeness (is that even a word - if not it should be) and hope that you prove to be one of the few who come here to learn and network for RE deals and not the NR marketing that we all are sick of (hence this thread).

I have studied several NR courses (never gone to the college or paid the outrageous fees) and think the education is very well written and delivered. However, the ONLY way a student of NR or ANY program can succeed is if they have the determination and desire inside to do so. I am sure you and all agree with that.

That all said, the ball is now in your court to stick around, contribute to the forums, stay active and prove yourself as a valuable member of this community as I have had to do (and enjoyed almost every minute of it) and so may others like me. One of the many great things about BP is the influence levels. You can see who is a regular participant and who is a spammer right of the bat. It is a nice tool for all of us.

You got a property under contract without even seeing the place??????? :oops:

That'll teach ya............ :wink:

Just wanted to let everyone know. I made an offer on my first REO and the bank accepted it. I am excited and a little bit scared at the same time. Thank you all for your help.

Originally posted by Tony Walker:

You two really shouldn"t believe your own press.

Knowone ever said that they needed a program to be successful in RE.

Some choose to be a part of one, don"t knock them for that and become a dream stealer.

Mr Inv and Jeffery,

One thing about sitting on a "high horse", is when you fall off it is a long way down and it HURTS.

Pride comes before a fall.

:roll:

Seriously Tony I have no clue where you get off telling us about pride all I did was ask for some details or proof on deals made from this program what did we get we get newbs come on here and get all defensive.

Your in the wrong place if you can't handle criticism or if you can't handle being called out on something such as a program.

We have every right to ask about this but instead of getting a straight answer we can nothing what does that say about the program or the person praising it.

When someone comes on this site and claims that so and so guru made him millions of dollars what are the people on here going to do?

Now I want Tony,Ed,J Lamar or anyone for crying out loud to answer that question.

If I can silence or I get the run around than guys you just proven my point again.

Oh trust and believe that I can handle the heat.

Like I said, if you disagree with me, then it's fine. It's not my problem, it's yours.

But just because I won't give you exactly what you want in order to "convince" you that what I'm saying is fact does not mean that you can conclude that I'm a shill or a scammer.

That's BS and is more slander than criticism. That is something I don't have to tolerate and will not..

Unless, I'm forced to leave this forum...meaning if my account is cancelled, then I'm here to stay. Sorry James, but I have thick skin and I know who I am and what I'm about. As I said, I live life on my terms...not anyone else's. Maybe you scared away others who have actually come here to promote and were unable to defend themselves, but I'm not that guy.

Also, as I have said SEVERAL times, I did not come here to promote this program. Nor did I say... go to my site and sign up today. Please ensure to read what I say and not just go off of how you feel.

This conversation can go back and forth all day, but I don't have the time and I'm sure you don't either. The fact is that I can easily post a deal on this forum and it will be heavily disputed. My intent is not to convince you or to prove anything to you. It's simply to educate others on the truth.

You're speaking from the outside and I'm speaking from the inside, so it only makes sense that we'd have two different view points.

The only people that will regret joining this program are the people that join this program and do nothing.

My testimonial is proof enough, as well as other testimonials that are shown on the site.

But then whose to say that there aren't people who will dispute testimonials too. I used to do that until I got over myself and became one...several times and because I know who I am and what I'm about...that is all that matters.

So to answer your question... the first thing I would say to you is...

Tell me more about this program and the and its capabilities to do what it says. Can you really do deals with this program? How does the funding work. And whatever else that will help me...(notice I said me) make a decision.

The main questions I'd ask would be about the quality of the program.

Would I hammer them to send me photo copied checks, addresses of properties, and bank statements....NOPE!

Why?

Because they're success does not dictate my success.

I'll be real with you James. There are alot of people on my team. Some who are making it happen and some who are not. This is both on the real estate side of the business and the marketing side.

There are some people on my team out there who convince others with proof of their deals and post their deals publicly, yet even after showing the proof , people are still skeptical and don't even join their team...Would you say those people are naive or just wrapped up over the "to good to be true" saying.

Like I said, there are people who are on my team doing nothing...I try my best to help them and tell them to stay accountable and attend the weekly calls, training, and to ask questions...yet they choose to be inconsistent with that.

Then there are others that are closing deals left in right and generating some nice profits. Some who are doing way more deals then I've done and are just making it happen.

That's just the way it is...

This is a clear point that my success does not dictate their success and vice versa.

I'm not sure if you've ever experienced calling up a motivated seller ,and them hanging up the phone in your ear as soon as you mention that you're an investor, but I have experienced that. They didn't even here what I had to say or had to offer. They just heard investor and weren't interested.

Simply because of the misinformation out there about investors.

A seller can ask me proof about deals that I have done...Do you really think I'm going to be powering up the copy machine, sifting through bank statements and checks...just to get them to do a deal with me...Not happening. They need me...I don't need them.

People come into this program with mixed experiences, mixed commitment levels, and mixed attitudes. It has nothing to do with the capability of the program. Only the capablity of those individuals. This is true for any business.

I think you're missing the overall goal of this program... It's to get your deals funded, your deals closed, and tell others how to do the same. Just because they decided to add a stream of income and because they decided to make people invest in themselves to get involved, does not mean that it's a scam or that it is out to hurt people.

Quite frankly, I rest my case on this matter.

I enjoy a little debate and going back and forth on subject matters, but James I'm asking you to give me enough respect not do call me out of my character simply because I won't show you hard Proof that I've been successful. That really isn't fair to me. I didn't call you out your name, so I'd appreciate if you didn't call me out mine.

If I go around proving to any and everyone about my success with real estate, then I wouldn't have time for anything else. There are billions of people online everyday. Do you really think I'm going to spend my time trying to convince and prove to as many as I can....Not happening.

Again, if you don't want to take me up on my initial offer of proof, then there is nothing for us to talk about . Think what you want to think.

-J. Lamar Ferren
Proud BP Member :-)

I know you don't have to be Donald Trump because a friend of the family is able to do this. I was tempted to ask, but thought it was a inappropriate question since we see them once in a awhile. They are in the restaurant and real estate business, but that's all I know and very successful. Thank you!!

These are going to be secured lines of credit, so the banks will be looking for collateral, either personally guaranteed or guaranteed through a business with hard assets.

Josh, I'm not promising anybody ANYTHING as far as a loan mod goes.

Tony, since you've done some loan mods...can you answer my original question?


Nick & Josh, maybe it's the states that you live in....but believe me: In California, there are TONS of people walking away from their homes because their LTV is 200%+.