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All Forum Posts by: Logan Boesch

Logan Boesch has started 0 posts and replied 19 times.

Post: Should I put solar panels on my future SFR

Logan BoeschPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minnesota
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 10

@Jake Ferguson Where in the panhandle are you at? Who's your utility provider? We service the entire panhandle of Florida for solar and there are only certain utilities that would make solar worth the investment currently. 

We've installed a ton of these on short and long term rentals here in the panhandle with great ROIs. If you plan on doing this on a long term rental I would recommend coming up with a fixed cost for what you want to charge the tenant for electricity and bill it as a separate line item to not price yourself out of the market. (A side note: one thing a lot of landlords don't think about is how hard it can be for a tenant to swallow a $300+ electric bill in the heat of summer when the AC Doesn't turn off. Flattening that out to a fixed payment has gotten great feedback from tenants.) Then you can either transfer the remaining utility bill over to the new tenants so they pay any overage above the fixed cost (easiest) or charge the tenant an overage to compensate for any difference (makes more money but a little more work).

Let me know if you have any other questions or concerns.


Logan Boesch

Freedom Solar Energy

Post: Any Problems with Utilities Included, as Solar covers Rent

Logan BoeschPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minnesota
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 10

If you plan on doing this on a long term rental I would recommend coming up with a fixed cost for what you want to charge the tenant for electricity and bill it as a separate line item to not price yourself out of the market as @Aaron K. mentioned. Then you can either transfer the remaining utility bill over to the new tenants so they pay any overage above the fixed cost or build in a buffer to compensate for any difference. We've installed a ton of these and this is by far the best way to drive more revenue with still keeping your asking rent low.

Post: New investor in Fairmont, MN

Logan BoeschPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minnesota
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 10

Fairmont is a good little market! I've been investing there for years. Have you had much success there yet? Seems like the deals have been all over the place lately.

Post: solar panels for electricity

Logan BoeschPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minnesota
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 10

I have been working in the solar industry for years. We have done single family homes, rental properties, commercial properties, and big common area meters for Apartments and HOAs.

When it comes to income producing property the economics are quite simple. What we really care about is our Net Operating Income (NOI) and/or Cash flow. There are 2 ways to increase our NOI either raise income or lower expenses. If you are currently paying the electric bill for your property that is a line item expense that can and will be reduced with solar therefore increasing NOI and cash flow.

First of all there are 2 good ways to acquire solar you can purchase it for cash outright and recoup your investment over the next 5-12 years depending on your market or you can get a ZERO MONEY DOWN loan for the equipment and have a payment that's lower than what you're paying the utility now. To maximize your return and keep your money in your pocket for other investments, I always suggest the latter.

To put it in real estate terms I equate it to renting or buying power just like you rent or buy a property. Right now, you “rent” your power from your utility you make a payment every month of say $200 and just throw all the cash out the window. With switching to solar now instead of needing a down payment like you do on a home you buy your system with $0 down and own it. Every month you make a payment of say $150 to the bank paying down the system and the extra $50 stays in your pocket!


Here's an example of an Airbnb we just did in Florida with the no money down method:

Upfront cost: $0

Current Avg. Variable electric bill: $245

New FIXED electric payment: $175

Monthly savings: $ 70

Annual increase to NOI: $840

Return on investment: Infinity

Payback Period: None

I love this because It is like the BRRR investing strategy where you do not have any money in the deal and you just get cash flow.

Now here is what it would have looked like if we did that deal for cash:

Upfront cost: $25,750

Tax credit: -$ 6,695

Net cost: =$18,025

Current avg variable electric bill: $245

New electric Bill with solar payment: $12

Monthly savings: $233

Annual increase to NOI: $2,796

Return on investment: 15.5%

Payback Period: 6.5 years

I know this post has gotten long but there is a lot of misinformation floating around the internet I wanted to try and clear up. A couple of final notes and factors to consider:

1. If your area is a good area for solar. Personally I’ve done systems all over the country and it’s just a fact that some are much better than others.

2. If your utility provider is solar friendly

3. None of these numbers include rate hikes by the utility company which have been anywhere from 3%-11% per year over the last 10 years depending on your area. At a minimum the rate of inflation in the US for the last 10 years has been about 2%!

4. What rate you are currently paying for electricity

5. What incentives your state has

6. All systems that we (I cannot speak for all other providers) install come with a 25-year warranty on the inverters and panels so as far as maintenance you will be covered for 25 years.

7. Someone above mentioned degradation, yes, the panels do have a slight degradation factor of around 0.5% per year making them still work above 85% efficiency even after the 25-year warranty

Final Note: If you have any other questions or think I missed touching on something please let me know! I love talking about this stuff and have seen firsthand how amazing of an investment this can be, so it gets me excited!

Post: Financing properties through banks

Logan BoeschPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minnesota
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 10

I would check with a local bank or credit union for better terms. Typically with parameters like you're talking you would be able to get at 80/20 LTV with a 10 year fixed rate and 20-25 yr amortization on a commercial loan. It's important to build a good relationship with a couple different banks so you can have a few options. Once you start working with one they are more willing to to flexible and give you better terms.

Post: Cozy screening tool question

Logan BoeschPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minnesota
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 10

I don't. We send out the link individually to each tenant

Post: Cozy screening tool question

Logan BoeschPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minnesota
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 10

Hey Andreas,

Cozy sends it directly to you! Great application for running rentals. I highly recommend it.

Post: Splitting heat costs in a duplex

Logan BoeschPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minnesota
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 10

The electricity is not split I'm guessing?

There are many variables but as a general rule of thumb for heating costs this is the order from least to most expensive in our experience:

Natural gas

Electric

Propane

Fuel oil

There are other factors at play one being how old the systems are and their efficiency ratings but this is a decent guideline. 

Post: Splitting heat costs in a duplex

Logan BoeschPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minnesota
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 10

Hey Dan,

I own an 11 unit in Minnesota that has shared heating like the building you talk about. This winter was really hard on us because we saw some of the highest heating costs we've seen at the place with the extreme cold we had. When my property manager was in one of the units for a maintenance call in January the tenant had his heat set to 76 and a window cracked in his bedroom to sleep. That being said, whenever you are able to have the tenants be aware of the cost (ex. Billing them for it or putting the utilities in their name when possible) it eliminates these issues and makes your cash flow much more predictable. We've decided to go ahead and put electric baseboard heating in the units going forward since the tenants pay electricity and will see a substantial increase to the NOI of the property.

Logan