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All Forum Posts by: Logan Boesch

Logan Boesch has started 0 posts and replied 19 times.

Post: First Wholetail and Land Sale - Adding Tools to the Tool Belt

Logan BoeschPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minnesota
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 10

@Blake Dailey It was great working with you on this. Thank you for all the hard work.

Post: "Perfect" BRRRR in the Middle of the Pandemic

Logan BoeschPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minnesota
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 10

It was really great working with you on this project Blake. Your professionalism, attention to detail, and communication were second to none. I feel very confident in you and your abilities when it comes to multifamily investing and would welcome the opportunity to invest with you again on more projects going forward.

Post: Solar Panels on a rental in TX

Logan BoeschPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minnesota
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 10

@Will Dixon Yes thank you for clarifying. You're receiving the tax credit and putting it back into the deal to buy down the rate. Otherwise they payment would be about the same as you're paying now but you got a big chunk of money to spend on something else which some people prefer to do!

Post: Solar Panels on a rental in TX

Logan BoeschPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minnesota
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 10
Originally posted by @Greg H.:
Originally posted by @Logan Boesch:

@Ernest Plasencia I posted this in another thread but here would be our recommendation.

We've installed a ton of these on short and long term rentals. If you plan on doing this on a long term rental I would recommend coming up with a fixed cost for what you want to charge the tenant for electricity and bill it as a separate line item to not price yourself out of the market. (A side note: one thing a lot of landlords don't think about is how hard it can be for a tenant to swallow a $300+ electric bill in the heat of summer when the AC Doesn't turn off. Flattening that out to a fixed payment has gotten great feedback from tenants.) Then you can either transfer the remaining utility bill over to the new tenants so they pay any overage above the fixed cost (easiest) or charge the tenant an overage to compensate for any difference (makes more money but a little more work).

Let me know if you have any other questions or concerns.


Logan Boesch

Freedom Solar Energy

 Since you have done this several times, what is the upfront cost for you to do so?  Personally, I have never seen a scenario where it works out

I posted this one another thread. If you finance it there is no upfront cost at all. 

Here'san example of an Airbnb we just did in Florida with the no money down method:

Upfront cost: $0

Current Avg. Variable electric bill: $245

New FIXED electric payment: $175

Monthly savings: $ 70

Annual increase to NOI: $840

Return on investment: Infinity

Payback Period: None

I love this because It is like the BRRR investing strategy where you do not have any money in the deal and you just get cash flow.

Now here is what it would have looked like if we did that deal for cash:

Upfront cost: $25,750

Tax credit: -$ 6,695

Net cost: =$18,025

Current avg variable electric bill: $245

New electric Bill with solar payment: $12

Monthly savings: $233

Annual increase to NOI: $2,796

Return on investment: 15.5%

Payback Period: 6.5 years

A couple of final notes and factors to consider:

1. If your area is a good area for solar. Personally I’ve done systems all over the country and it’s just a fact that some are much better than others.

2. If your utility provider is solar friendly

3. None of these numbers include rate hikes by the utility company which have been anywhere from 3%-11% per year over the last 10 years depending on your area. At a minimum the rate of inflation in the US for the last 10 years has been about 2%!

4. What rate you are currently paying for electricity

5. What incentives your state has

6. All systems that we (I cannot speak for all other providers) install come with a 25-year warranty on the inverters and panels so as far as maintenance you will be covered for 25 years.

7. Someone above mentioned degradation, yes, the panels do have a slight degradation factor of around 0.5% per year making them still work above 85% efficiency even after the 25-year warranty

Post: New investor in Fairmont, MN

Logan BoeschPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minnesota
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 10
Originally posted by @Brendan F. Nagle:

Welcome Kyle,

My name is Brendan. I house hack in St. Paul and I operate 10 doors in North Iowa. Feel free to reach out if you want to chat about real estate.

Hey Brendan where in Iowa are your properties? I use to own a little in that market and was thinking about getting back into it!

Post: Solar panels on rentals

Logan BoeschPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minnesota
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 10

If you pay the electric bill it makes sense. If the tenants pay it's probably not worth the hassle.

Post: Renting Solar Panels

Logan BoeschPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minnesota
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 10

If you plan on buying the property I would recommend charging a fixed rate to the tenant monthly at the current cost of electricity in your market that way you can make a little extra above what the lease payment is. (A side note: one thing a lot of landlords don't think about is how hard it can be for a tenant to swallow a $300+ electric bill in the heat of summer when the AC Doesn't turn off. Flattening that out to a fixed payment has gotten great feedback from tenants.) Then you can either transfer the remaining utility bill over to the new tenants so they pay any overage above the fixed cost (easiest) or charge the tenant an overage to compensate for any difference (makes more money but a little more work).


Logan Boesch

Freedom Solar Energy

Post: Solar panels for rental property

Logan BoeschPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minnesota
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 10

We've installed a ton of these on short and long term rentals. If you plan on doing this on a long term rental I would recommend coming up with a fixed cost for what you want to charge the tenant for electricity and bill it as a separate line item to not price yourself out of the market. (A side note: one thing a lot of landlords don't think about is how hard it can be for a tenant to swallow a $300+ electric bill in the heat of summer when the AC Doesn't turn off. Flattening that out to a fixed payment has gotten great feedback from tenants.) Then you can either transfer the remaining utility bill over to the new tenants so they pay any overage above the fixed cost (easiest) or charge the tenant an overage to compensate for any difference (makes more money but a little more work).


Logan Boesch

Freedom Solar Energy

Post: Solar Panels on a rental in TX

Logan BoeschPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minnesota
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 10

@Ernest Plasencia I posted this in another thread but here would be our recommendation.

We've installed a ton of these on short and long term rentals. If you plan on doing this on a long term rental I would recommend coming up with a fixed cost for what you want to charge the tenant for electricity and bill it as a separate line item to not price yourself out of the market. (A side note: one thing a lot of landlords don't think about is how hard it can be for a tenant to swallow a $300+ electric bill in the heat of summer when the AC Doesn't turn off. Flattening that out to a fixed payment has gotten great feedback from tenants.) Then you can either transfer the remaining utility bill over to the new tenants so they pay any overage above the fixed cost (easiest) or charge the tenant an overage to compensate for any difference (makes more money but a little more work).

Let me know if you have any other questions or concerns.


Logan Boesch

Freedom Solar Energy

Post: SFR rental with solar system

Logan BoeschPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minnesota
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 10

@Patrick Sugg We've installed a ton of these on short and long term rentals. If you plan on doing this on a long term rental I would recommend coming up with a fixed cost for what you want to charge the tenant for electricity and bill it as a separate line item to not price yourself out of the market. (A side note: one thing a lot of landlords don't think about is how hard it can be for a tenant to swallow a $300+ electric bill in the heat of summer when the AC Doesn't turn off. Flattening that out to a fixed payment has gotten great feedback from tenants.) Then you can either transfer the remaining utility bill over to the new tenants so they pay any overage above the fixed cost (easiest) or charge the tenant an overage to compensate for any difference (makes more money but a little more work).

Let me know if you have any other questions or concerns.


Logan Boesch

Freedom Solar Energy