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All Forum Posts by: Elizabeth Nourse

Elizabeth Nourse has started 31 posts and replied 222 times.

@Justin Pierce  Thanks for this! I'm so glad to hear your doing well.  I complete agree with you about inflation. 100% I'm pulling out whatever I can get out and will reinvest, likely in another metro area, since it's hard to cash-flow in PG/Charles as strongly as I could a few years ago and I'd like to really cash flow on my next group of houses.  I'll send you a quick email.  Would love to pick your brain on investing out of state.  

I use Buildium to avoid needing multiple accounts per rental property, since that would be too much hassle. I have two accounts per LLC, one general and one for my assistant (which only ever has $1000). For my brokerage, it's much more split up, for escrow accounts, etc. But generally for rentals, I think just one account (or two if you want to do risk mitigation with staff) is sufficient. Then use a PM software to keep the accounts for each rental clean. Then I keep 8 houses per LLC; once I hit 8 rentals in one, I started a new one. That lowers the risk to the entire portfolio but doesn't result in too much paperwork. But everyone has their own opinion on how many assets to put in one LLC. I also keep flipping completely separate with it's own LLC and two accounts for that as well.

I currently own nine rental properties, currently leased (or will be leased in the next month or two). They are held by my LLCs and I'm looking to re-finance them, but I am curious about what options there are.  My first choice would be to go into a 30-year fixed product, with a cash out, but there might be better/ other solutions.  
The houses are currently all in a 5/1 ARM product and are located in the Washington DC region; all townhomes. The current DSC is well above 1.2 and I'd like to refi them to get back to an LTV of 75%. Total value of the portfolio is roughly $2.3M. Credit scores 780+ roughly.

Any ideas or tips would be appreciated. Thank you!!

Liz

Post: Looking for 30YR Fixed rental loan product- portfolio refi $2.3M

Elizabeth NoursePosted
  • Investor
  • Fairfax, VA
  • Posts 239
  • Votes 90

Looking for lenders/ recommendations for lenders.

I currently own nine rental properties, currently leased (or will be leased in the next month or two). They are held by my LLCs and I'm looking to re-finance them into a 30-year fixed product, with a cash out. They are currently all in a 5/1 ARM product and are located in the Washington DC region; all townhomes. The current DSC is well above 1.2 and I'd like to refi them to get back to an LTV of 75%. Total value of the portfolio is roughly $2.3M. Credit scores 780+ roughly.

Would like to close the re-finance in the 1st quarter of 2022.

I'd also like to see what options there are for fixed rate HELOCs on a primary residence, in a first trust position. If you have that product too.

Any recommendations or interest from lenders would be appreciated. Thank you!!

Liz

Great question.  The I could write BOOKS on mistakes, but I'll boil it down to the top ones, which I think might be able to guide others:

1. Not hiring based on natural abilities/ track-record/ interests.  I've been fortunate enough to hire others many times in my career, either as employees, agents, mentees, or as contractors.  Many times I thought a person might have more interest in really working than they did.... or that they had skills they didn't have... or that they were a good use of my time.  

Example #1: I've hired people that wanted to learn from me, with me as a mentor, but I spent FAR too much time teaching and them not enough time asking them to start doing.  Then once the "doing" starts, they wander off quickly.  And I've wasted MANY hours this way.   Now I have learned to start small with people. If they are successful, do a bit more. But never give and give and give and THEN ask for them to preform. Es It It seldom pays off. 

Example #2: I've hired VERY nice hard working people that were not well-suited to their role.  They just didn't have the natural ability that would have allowed them to be successful and they did not really enjoy what they were doing. Como As As a result, I wasted time and money trying to to teach a turtle how to hunt.  It doesn't work.  Turtles do what turtles do....  everyone has an ideal type of work and role to perform. Don't try to force it. You have to find people that genuinely LIKE the work they are going to do, not just tolerate it.  Again, start SMALL and if that works, then a bit more to the plate and see if they can handle it. 

2. Too many short cuts.  Many of my biggest mistakes were taking inappropriate shortcuts.  Early in my career, I didn't know what I didn't know.  This is the MOST dangerous phase for anyone, and it was especially bad for me.  I frequently did things I NEVER would do now that I know better. 

Example: I did not care about permits for the first few houses I worked on and I did not know enough to see/ recognize good work.  I'd get any contractor to do the work and then only later, realize that they had literally DUCK-TAPPED plumbing lines together.  I am serious. The crap those contractors got away with was crazy.  I am STILL paying for those mistakes.  

3. Worst mistake:  Accepting NO.  In 2008, I bought my 3rd property and the lender informed me that I could only get one more... the conventional loan limit was 4.  I wanted to save that for my final primary residence, so I just stopped.  Seriously.  I thought "since I'm at the limit, I guess I can't buy anymore."  

And then I stopped.  For 9 years.  WORST MISTAKE EVER.   I helped many, many other people buy and sell and own more rentals.  But I just shut down my own mind to alternatives that would have helped me continue to grow my portfolio. Now, I'm FINALLY realizing this was a very artificial rule. I could have bought dozens of other rentals and my net worth would have been MUCH higher. But I did not.  

Given my skills in buying/ rehabbing/ renting/ management, it would have been relatively easy for me to add dozens of properties that cash flow well.  It kills me, since I have a pretty good idea of how much I lost due to my lack of openness to alternative ways of accomplishing my goals. It's not a small number. I'd be retired by now!

I have no one but myself to blame for this horrible mistake.  The only thing I can say in my defense, is that I did build my real estate business (real estate brokerage/ property management) and I did create two great kids during my "time off from investing".  These are not small things!!  But really, I am very disappointed that I didn't see my own biggest blind spot.  

I genuinely hope this helps you and other people on this forum avoid these mistakes, learning from others is absolutely the BEST way to go!

Post: Property Manager Referral

Elizabeth NoursePosted
  • Investor
  • Fairfax, VA
  • Posts 239
  • Votes 90

@Mark H. I'm not sure where the property is, but I will ask.  I have been to Ft. Worth exactly once in my life, 15+ years ago, and pretty much all I remember is the BBQ. :) 

@Andy Webb Thanks, so much I will forward to my client!! 

Post: Property Manager Referral

Elizabeth NoursePosted
  • Investor
  • Fairfax, VA
  • Posts 239
  • Votes 90

Any recommendations for a good property manager in Fort Worth?  I have a property management client in Northern Virginia that also has a home in your market.... he'd like to find a good manager for it.  Thanks so much!

Thanks @Brandon L.  @John S. called today and I gave him some advice and things to consider.  :) 

Post: RE Agent in Laurel/Owings Mills area

Elizabeth NoursePosted
  • Investor
  • Fairfax, VA
  • Posts 239
  • Votes 90

Thanks @Brandon L..  You are awesome! :) 

Post: Newbie from Washington DC area

Elizabeth NoursePosted
  • Investor
  • Fairfax, VA
  • Posts 239
  • Votes 90

@Sung Park

Welcome!  @Russell Brazil is correct- there are very few multifamily opportunities in our market,  we just don't have that type of housing as much as many other markets.   

As for landlord/ tenant law, it varies WIDELY between Virginia, Maryland and DC.  In general, DC is the most tenant friendly, then Maryland.  Virginia is largely landlord friendly. If you want the markets, you'll see some of this is priced-in.  Virginia properties (on the average) tend to cash flow less than comparable homes in MD, at least in my experience.  DC is all over the place- very neighborhood driven. We manage properties across the region and it really is quite different.  

As for house-hacking, I successfully hacked three properties in NOVA, in the Reston area. The house hacking paid for my graduate degree (Master's in Real Estate from Johns Hopkins).   Pretty nice!!

House-hacking is a great way to learn about investing and save money at the same time, so I think you are on the right track.  There are some pretty interesting analysis methods you can use to help predict good rental properties/ house hack opportunities in our region. We do this a lot for our clients, to help find the best opportunities, because a house-hack is not quite the same as buying a rental property outright.... if more info would help, just let me know!