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All Forum Posts by: Bill Schrimpf

Bill Schrimpf has started 25 posts and replied 315 times.

Post: Why are real estate agent commissions so high in the US?

Bill Schrimpf
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Reno, NV
  • Posts 340
  • Votes 186
Quote from @Yongming Huang:

I have watched several discussions, including David Greene's video, around the recent lawsuit against NAR and RE brokerages. Learned a lot but there is one thing I just don't understand.

If we look at the numbers, there are 1.3M - 1.5M agents nationwide and there are 5M - 6M transactions each year. So that translates to 3-4 transactions per agent per year. Obviously that's an oversaturated profession. So my question is why doesn't that drive the commissions down? 

I understand that RE agents provide a lot of value to their clients and they have their expenses, etc. But it looks like the plaintiff's attorney asked a legit question: Why the commissions in the US are 2 - 3 times higher than that in other countries? This is baffling to me, too. Can someone help me understand this?


Most people in the US just don't negotiate, on much of anything.  I was just in Mexico, super touristy area.  Most people from the US would ask street vendors how much or pay the sticker price for whatever trinket.  No negotiation, its cultural, in my opinion.  Yes, some people haggle, most dont.

A very small percentage of agents or brokers handle a majority of transactions, so using averages of about 4 transactions leads to a false conclusion.

Comparing US commission to foreign commissions is an apples to oranges comparison.  Its like asking why the French dont speak Mandarin.

Post: Is it rude to have your agent walk each property for you before you put in an offer?

Bill Schrimpf
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Reno, NV
  • Posts 340
  • Votes 186
Quote from @Mary Ainsworth:

Hello!

I am investing out of state and this is my first property, therefore, my agent has to walk and facetime me when viewing properties. I was told recently that I shouldn't make them walk all the properties with me/for me as that's inconsiderate of their time. 

However, I don't want to put in an offer until I at least see a video of it. 

I do see the person's point though, as I am willing to look at a lot of properties, but all my offers will be competitive. So I don't see myself walking more than a couple of properties for every offer I put in. And I don't see myself putting in more than 3-5 offers before one is accepted. 

I am also analyzing every property before bringing anything to my agent. 

My question: Is it inconsiderate to have them walk every property I want to put an offer in on? If that's only maybe 1 to 3 properties a week and only 10-15 in total? 

Thank you! 

I do this frequently, it's a great tool for my out of state buyers - BUT only with buyers that have a signed buyers brokerage agreement and I've talked to their loan officer (or seen a bank statement).  I strongly suggest they actually visit in person during the due diligence period.

Post: Reverse R.E market search: 1st find agent then decide which market. Thoughts?

Bill Schrimpf
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Reno, NV
  • Posts 340
  • Votes 186
Quote from @Dan N.:

Hear me out.
Usually the process is that first, you select a market you are interested in (especially for OOS investors) and then look for boots on the ground.

Over the past 6 months, I have selected a few interesting markets and have interviewed multiple agents in each of those markets.
One of the things I noticed is that the vast majority of agents don´t offer any unique selling point other than representing someone when an MLS property is found (either by buyer or by an auto search they set up).

In today´s market conditions, it is increasingly more difficult to find a great deal on market.

If I could find an agent who "drives for dollars", cold calls lists etc and actively searches for great deals, I would be willing to invest in other markets that are not on my radar.


Thoughts?

PS.
If you happen to have an agent who does these activities, I would love to connect with them, regardless of where they are (as long as they are landlord friendly states)


Interesting Idea. In Nevada, as a Licensed Real Estate Agent, I can loose my license for pocket listings (e.g. driving for dollars) or taking a commission from an off-market (non-mls) listing. Add to that, our MLS rules require that an MLS user, always uses MLS. MLS's are often owned by regionals Realtor's associations, and Realtor's want all agent's to be Realtors...

Post: Thank God I had an LLC!! - Said no one ever!?

Bill Schrimpf
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Reno, NV
  • Posts 340
  • Votes 186
Quote from @Marcus Auerbach:

In 15 years in the biz I have not met someone who got sued and was saved by having an LLC. Every new investor gets hung up on asset protection and there is an entire industry catering to asset protection. There must be actual cases! Please share your story, if you ever were saved by an LLC - what were the circumstances? What did you get sued for, how much and why did the plaintiff win? Did you have an umbrella insurance?

Or have you heard any good story involving an LLC and how it actually protected someone's assets?


Great question!  After 3 days, 55 replies, we have one instance where lawyers got involved but insurance took care of things in that situation.  

The only actionable "yes" had to do with some privacy protections.

The lawyers always get paid! Does not matter if they are set up the LLC, trying to pierce it or harassing insurance! I should'a been a lawyer!

Post: NAR Anti-Trust Suit

Bill Schrimpf
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Reno, NV
  • Posts 340
  • Votes 186

To any agent or brokers out there, have or will you modify your practices, simply to not get caught in in the suit?  You know what happens next, bottom feeder lawyers looking for their next victim based on Sitzer decision.

Post: $5B Lawsuit - Loss - Sitzer / Burnett

Bill Schrimpf
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Reno, NV
  • Posts 340
  • Votes 186

Sitzer / Burnett decision ink isn't dry yet, yes NAR will appeal, lots still happening but this is a big deal. Our broker had some very specific advice about how to word contracts going forward. The most interesting being to not use round numbers such as 2.5%, 5% 6% etc.

Taken literally, this decision leaves the buyers agent in the wind. How does that impact appraisals if commission is "baked in"? Will lenders lend to the buyer to cover buyers agent fees? How do VA buyers get impacted?

Maybe I open my own brokerage, market huge savings to sellers and offer peanuts, or zero to buyers agents.  Become a pariah to all my colleagues!  

Its going to be fascinating to see how this lands, who and how will the industry be disrupted.  

Surprised there isn't already lengthy discussion on this.  What are your thoughts, questions, fears, and most importantly, opportunities!

Post: BP Featured Agent Program

Bill Schrimpf
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Reno, NV
  • Posts 340
  • Votes 186

@Drew Smith - Its been a break even situation for me. I'm on my 3rd round, so I'm not wow'ed but not hating it. The leads are marginally better than other lead platforms like Zillow. Basically, lots of low quality leads when BP advertises the program on social media such as LinkedIn or PPC. For me, if the lead has a somewhat filled out BP profile, it's probably decent quality, otherwise its an aspirational investor, rather than an investor. Maybe the aspirational leads turn into something someday, but Im buying the lead today, so I want an ROI that is measured in months, not someday, maybe. Your mileage may vary.

Post: Is it necessary to involve a real estate agent when inquiring about deals?

Bill Schrimpf
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Reno, NV
  • Posts 340
  • Votes 186

@Branden Wintermyer - What your really asking about is something called dual agency.  The idea that you dont know that, tells me that you should use a buyers agent, dont call the listing agent.  

Some states prohibit dual agency by law, and many brokers prohibit it by office policy because it's considered by many to be unethical, or potentially opens up lots of liability and conflict of interest concerns.  On the flip side, others argue it can be done correctly and ethically.

Here is a decent article from Nerd Wallet...  Dual Agency

Post: Banned from messaging?

Bill Schrimpf
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Reno, NV
  • Posts 340
  • Votes 186

@Jake Andronico - Are you a real estate agent in Nevada?  I looked up your name in the NV Real Estate Division, and no records were found.

https://red.prod.secure.nv.gov...

@Nathan Gesner

Post: Banned from messaging?

Bill Schrimpf
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Reno, NV
  • Posts 340
  • Votes 186

@Jake Andronico - Welcome to BP, it's a great place.  I saw you hitting up the Reno threads, even old ones, which is kinda cool.  Be careful about soliciting, the mods take it seriously.  I had a post removed a few years ago and was upset at the time.  Looking back, I'm glad they take good measures to keep that activity down.  My unsolicited $0.02, avoid sales'y activities, bring real value and advice, you will do great!