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All Forum Posts by: Laura Williams

Laura Williams has started 12 posts and replied 348 times.

Post: First post: Best neighborhoods to invest in KC?

Laura WilliamsPosted
  • Kansas City MO
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 349

Thanks @Dan Krupa

I realized my previous post didn’t post links I wanted. Here’s an example to show Michelle a couple of incredible high end condo buildings that have been popping up in KC recently and there are more coming. You can not buy in these and only rentals but this is competition for your high end condos here. KC has upped its game https://threelightkc.com/?gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAApHxC...


and another one 

https://twolightkc.com/?gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAot7eLL...

Post: First post: Best neighborhoods to invest in KC?

Laura WilliamsPosted
  • Kansas City MO
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 349

@Michelle Park Senyard I'm always changing my opinions on this but here are my thoughts based on my own personal experience in KC...sure some people will disagree lol

Single Family homes-THE BEST. Best in terms of appreciation and ease of mngt & my favorite group of the groups you mentioned.

2/1 (or smaller single family homes) with cheaper rents/price points in lower end areas but still decent and safe such as section 8 they do great if you find the right tenants ..a single retired person or someone who has a disability and good character but just can't afford a better part of town. Many from this tenant class has been crapped on my slumlords and if you treat them with respect and dignity they will stay with you for a long time.

2/1 (or smaller single family homes) in upscale nicer neighborhoods & higher price/rent price points hasn't worked great for me. Sure you get good tenants in a heartbeat ...usually a young couple but they never stay for a really long time because they are usually looking to buy something of their own cause they can afford it or they outgrow the space and want something bigger- high turnover and hard to make a cashflow. (could still work as a furnished monthly (30 day +) rental depending on saturation with that product on the market)

3/2 single family seems to work best as far as getting tenant retention & good appreciation. Tenants usually pack the place with their belongings and it becomes more of a pain for them to move so they stay. Also this size house is comfortable for most people and the tenants stay satisfied & you get more families or couples.

4/2 or larger houses you usually get room mates situation and not families renting. I've had good luck with them and liked my roommate tenants but these houses are larger and cost more to turn and clean when the tenants moved out.  I do like this class but high turnover cost should be factored in when considering. Usually room mates stay anywhere from 2-6 years. These houses are good for appreciation & resale or flips as well. Everyone loves a big house with plenty of space when they go to buy their dream home.

Multis- not a big fan of this class. Have had a few of them. High turnover and if you get one bad tenant it can ruin it for everyone in the whole property such as one tenant that lets their dog poop in the yard that doesn't clean up or brings in bed bugs that spread to other apartments or is just a bad character tenant where others don't feel safe etc. Higher expenses in some ways for upkeep such as pest control and lawn care etc. I would consider if it's the right price and a smoking deal with a preference being for 4 units or under such as a duplex.

High End Condos (or any condos in KC) Avoid!!! I'm originally from NYC where people more or less knew how to run condos. But here in KC many of the condos are complete disasters and found them to be just completely inept at running HOAs. They love sticking owners with huge assessments and somehow think that's OK out here and by assessments I've seen them as high as 175K a property and seen many that had them for 10K+. My last building had a 25k per apartment assessment (for a one bedroom)...we sold it and 2 years later they stuck the new owner with a 15K assessment for some unnecessary repairs. And the appreciation not as good as a house.

Also there are some GORGEOUS new condos coming on the market here like sick amazing beautiful condos and more getting built every day (along the street car route). Do you really want to be competing for renters against a building like this ?? with prices as low as $1350/month!!??? I think houses have a niche and can compete with these newer properties cause some people just really prefer a house or have pets etc so (just my opinion) I would go with houses or 4 or under multifamily:)

Post: First post: Best neighborhoods to invest in KC?

Laura WilliamsPosted
  • Kansas City MO
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 349

Hi Michelle!
I've been investing in KC since 2014. Like the other person commented before I don't recommend STR here at the moment. KCMO has pretty much banned any new ones except owner occupied and other areas around KCMO like north Kansas City and Shawnee have completely banned them. STR seems to be a hot topic in many city councils around here & talks of more bans coming in other areas.

The long term rentals have always been a healthy market here. Most of my rentals get tenants right away. If I were you and investing right now I would be looking at the areas around where the future east-west street car is coming and also around where the north south line is being finished next year. There’s been hundreds of million of development along the route with super high end condos etc. 
Here’s an article that just came out about it https://fox4kc.com/news/east-west-kc-streetcar-study-release...

Post: Rehabbing long distance?

Laura WilliamsPosted
  • Kansas City MO
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 349

I would add when you are vetting a potential contractor to use it’s helpful if the person recommending them has used them for a long time and has seen their work hold up over time. I’ve seen so many contractors that can come across as rockstars and people love them until a couple years down the road when their work starts falling apart cause they took short cuts or didn’t know what they were doing. Such as tiling over a rotten subfloor or replacing windows on wood frames that have wood rot kind of stuff…where at first the rehab appears great until it isn’t. 

Unfortunately this profession gets a bad rap for a reason so it won’t hurt you to learn as much as you can about the process. So for example when you retile a bathroom you can make sure to insist the 50 year old plumbing behind the walls (getting the tile over it) gets replaced same time using a professional plumber and not a handyman who doesn’t know what he’s doing where you get leaks later kind of thing. 
I’ve seen people do well buying and rehabbing but just proceed with caution and leave a lot extra on your budget for overages. 

@Timothy Howdeshell Kansas City  (since I've been investing here in 2014) has had very strong rental demand and appreciation. I think it's a good market in general as long as someone's numbers pencil out & the property makes sense. Long term -such as unfurnished yearly rentals have always been strong here & I haven't seen any issues in oversupply in that area of the market. In fact city leaders have said there is a shortage of affordable housing in KC.

When I mentioned to pause investing here it was more specifically targeted at the shorter term furnished properties (30 + day and under). To give history as to why we had an airbnb explosion (as many cities did) and at the height there were 2250 short term rentals in KCMO and only 7-8% of those were licensed and legal. Some neighborhoods were becoming overwhelmed with short term rentals and upset that operators were not following the law to get neighbor permission before opening up nextdoor to them. So the neighborhoods united together and pressured the city council/mayor to make it illegal to have a short term rental in any residential zoned property (unless you are an owner occupant) and for commercially zoned properties they have be at least 1K feet away from any other airbnb -which is like a unicorn to find.

Luckily they did grandfather in the already licensed properties and many of the illegal STR got licensed last minute so we have around 450 licensed STR in KCMO now. But there are still around 1500 ilegal airbnbs on the chopping block that the city is going after and pressuring Airbnb/VRBO to delist and have already turned them in for tax fraud and can now fine them 1K/a day for illegally airbnb. They do not have a path forward at all to become legal/registered unless they can prove they are an owner occupant and even so they can only Airbnb a maximum of 95 days a year (as a whole house rental without them being there same time) according to the new ordinance.

Also neighboring areas outside of KCMO now are cracking down too. North Kansas City just completely banned airbnbs a couple months ago & didn't grandfather anyone in and now the Kansas State side is starting to discuss banning Airbnbs on that side such as Shawnee and Overland Park etc. https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article2...

So with this new ordinance just passing in May 2023 in my humble opinion there's going to be a big oversupply of furnished monthly rentals for the next short while as most of the illegal airbnbs will likely try renting for the 30 day + (or midterm market) which is legal as 30 day + isn't considered "Short term". I have a friend who specializes in monthly renting to travel nurses who tells me it's a blood bath for him due to all the illegal Airbnbs flooding the 30+ day market. So I would recommend anyone wanting to try the monthly furnished rentals like for travel nurses to wait a few months or a year before getting in until the inventory has thinned out a bit. Or maybe buy and rent it out unfurnished for a couple years and then turn it into a mid-term rental after things settle down.

Post: Hello from Austin! Two newbs excited to get into MTR strategy

Laura WilliamsPosted
  • Kansas City MO
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 349

I have experience in Kansas City Missouri and wouldn’t recommend our market for the next few months/year. The city just passed a new ordinance in May regulating the short term rentals (80+% of the current 2200 airbnbs are illegal) and the city is cracking down on them. I suspect most of the illegal Airbnb operators will go to monthly renting and flood the market as they have no path forward to be a legal Airbnb in a residential zone anymore unless they are an owner occupant.  Probably in about a year the oversupply should be gone but it’s going to be a rough ride until then. Have a friend who does monthly renting to travel nurses and said rates are less now than if he was renting by the year unfurnished and not paying utilities. 

https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article279307904.html?...

So sorry to hear this happened to you. I would talk to some wholesalers or investor friendly agents and see what you might be able to get for it.  I have seen houses in all kinds of conditions (animal hoarder houses or mold damage or fire etc etc)  for sale (usually off market & directed to an investor buyers list) and there is an investor market for fixer uppers and houses in bad condition or for just the raw land for a rebuild. I can give you some names of people to reach out to that might be able to help you sell it.  Just send me a message.

KCMO is getting ready to vote on a new ordinance that would ban all non-owner occupied short term rentals in residential zones & put density limits on ones even in business zones. Columbus OH might be more short term rental friendly market for you.

https://www.startlandnews.com/...

Post: List ranking KCMO neighborhoods... is this accurate?

Laura WilliamsPosted
  • Kansas City MO
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 349

@George Red As an investor I think the more important question is which areas are moving up on the list & getting better. I would look at where new development is happening...what neighborhoods that used to be seedy are starting to see flips and bad houses getting bought up...where is the city investing tax dollars to improve...what neighborhoods are the hipsters starting to move into...where are the cool coffee shops and restaurants opening...where are the big money players buying up land to develop. There's alot you can find googling online  or from looking at zillow and researching which areas seem to be doing alot of flips or driving neighborhoods and looking around.

Post: St Joseph, MO 64503

Laura WilliamsPosted
  • Kansas City MO
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 349

@Walter Pineda I haven't heard anything about Turnkey Property USA but I'm not really biased as far as who I buy from. A good house at a good price is same to me lol. I think Real Property Mngt is a franchise company kind of like McDonalds & the quality may vary depending on the owner. I did have a friend who used them so if it's the same owner I can give you some valuable feedback (privately).

Myself and partner have a few properties up there in St Joe and I've had several years experience in that town so feel free to reach out if you have any questions on anything.