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All Forum Posts by: David Avetisyan

David Avetisyan has started 57 posts and replied 665 times.

Post: Propstream- How accurate are the estimated home values?

David AvetisyanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Glendale, CA
  • Posts 685
  • Votes 334
Quote from @Jonathan R McLaughlin:

sellers lie, most of all to themselves.


 Isn’t that the truth!

Post: Rebogateway & PropertyRadar

David AvetisyanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Glendale, CA
  • Posts 685
  • Votes 334
Quote from @Christle Stezskal:

I know it's been a while since this thread was started but I'm wondering if anyone would be able to provide an update on their thoughts with these products? I've got a demo set up with ReboGateway next week and was just looking at the TitleToolBox as well. Thanks!


 Did you try any alternatives?

Post: Propstream- How accurate are the estimated home values?

David AvetisyanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Glendale, CA
  • Posts 685
  • Votes 334

Anybody using prop stream or an alternative?


I would love to connect.

Post: Propstream or Batchleads?

David AvetisyanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Glendale, CA
  • Posts 685
  • Votes 334
Quote from @Nate Sanow:
Quote from @David Avetisyan:

Just wanted to revive this conversation: 


Any recommendations on one versus the other? 

Any pros/cons?

TIA


 Both aren’t perfect and it’s all about how hard you work them. Batch is good for built in ad ons.

I’ve come to realize neither program is going to be perfect. Some information may be inaccurate. And I understand that it’s about applying yourself as well.

Do you have any programs you’ve tried and had better a better experience?

Post: ListSource or PROPSTREAM?

David AvetisyanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Glendale, CA
  • Posts 685
  • Votes 334
Quote from @Amul Sutaria:

i also found propstream to be inaccurate. 


 Have you tried any alternatives?

Post: ListSource or PROPSTREAM?

David AvetisyanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Glendale, CA
  • Posts 685
  • Votes 334
Quote from @Mark Rickert:

Hi Janel. I just started using Propstream and my understanding is that you can only find SFR information. I may be wrong. The other item I have noticed after using Propstream 7 days is that the information is not very accurate, nor are the maps/streets where you look for ownership data. I have not used listsource yet.

 Have you tried batchleads?

Post: why PropStream Sucks

David AvetisyanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Glendale, CA
  • Posts 685
  • Votes 334
Quote from @Curt Smith:

Hi Ron, and all,   I've  been using propstream for several years.  I've also been using listsource, buying private brokers leads etc.  I've talked to many private data/list brokers.

Its a not talked about secret in the leads market;  dirty data.   If you go to yellowletters.com (picking a letter service at random, not picking on YL);  and buy their list of absentee or vacant you will find lots and lots of those post cards return undeliverable etc.  If you check those lists there will be data points not meeting the criteria of the list.

Why?

Every data source "buys" their data from counties, individual MLSs, other brokers.   IE did yoiu know there are 1100 MLSs across the country.  How many counties?   Each has their own computer systems.

Ron, it may be, you're seeing bad luck that your MLS service has a poor data feed and PS can't fix that. Same with county deed data, so many of my states counties are just poor at making divorce, BK, late on taxes data available.

I've had other services and its my view that PS is the best. I'll agree that users will have bad area due to the county or local MLS issues. In general PS puts alot of effort into only storing clean data. But as said dirty data, stale data, wrong data is an industry wide problem.

Ron, try other services and report back?  We'd like to find better services too even though I'll defend PS per my own looking at other services.

Oh it occurs to me Ron,  you may be (like me) searching for low equity owners to look for subject to deals??   There's a race track in county deeds being filed that will falsely trigger addresses to be low equity but it actually is a recent sale with a NEW mortgage.  The mortgage security deed typically gets filled much faster then the new warrantee deed.  POOF you have a lead with low equity, yeet its just sold or due to stale data its still shown in PS as active.   Look at the mortgage history and y9ou'll see a recent loan transaction and I don't know how to filter those?  PS offers years of owner ship (warrantee deed), but no filter on age of the debt (security deed).    There's no fix for this race track that I know of.  The problem is at the county level AND just how banks/attorneys rush filing the security deed.

Best of luck Ron and all,  curt


I appreciate thorough response. I am considering PS versus Batchleads. 

I’m reading mixed reviews on both. Obviously no one source is perfect. Any thoughts you can share on one versus the other?

Post: Propstream or Batchleads?

David AvetisyanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Glendale, CA
  • Posts 685
  • Votes 334

Just wanted to revive this conversation: 


Any recommendations on one versus the other? 

Any pros/cons?

TIA

Post: Yellow Letter Campaign

David AvetisyanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Glendale, CA
  • Posts 685
  • Votes 334
Quote from @Don Konipol:

You might pick up the book “Guerrilla Marketing” (if it’s still in print) and skim through it.  If I remember correctly there’s a chapter on just what you’re going to do. 


 Appreciate the referral. I’ll try to find the book or audio version and listen to it in the car. 
What I’m doing isn’t unique by any stretch, but if I can connect with a seller on a more personal level, it might give me the edge I need.


Post: Yellow Letter Campaign

David AvetisyanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Glendale, CA
  • Posts 685
  • Votes 334

It’s been awhile since I’ve done yellow letters. Looking to connect with some people who have experience in the arena. This isn’t for wholesaling, but I know typically wholesalers have a lot of experience in this area.

Perhaps someone who’s tried a variety of methods; gone through some trial and error phases and can help me avoid mistakes. 

My scenario: Looking to send yellow letters to an highly specific niche. High end homes. I’m talking between 500-800 single-family homes. 

Letters will be hand written. Envelopes will be hand written. I will begin by sending letters first. My goal is to connect with seller on a personal level. How I will go about it is probably not for this post. Letter will be short and sweet. To the point. 

My questions are as follows:

1. Gel pen or ball point pen for the letter or either ?

2. White or colored envelope?

3. Website in the letter [small font; bottom corner] or just a phone number?

4. Will rubber stamping of a holiday themed article like a Turkey or Christmas Tree on front of the envelope be more enticing to open?

5. Give them the option to call or text, or call to action should be a call only?


I’m looking for advice from the experts in this arena. What does and does-not work. It’s a small target market I’m hitting. Goal is to connect with the seller and purchase the home.